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Lorenzo McCormick

S-Corp with Fiscal Year End June 30th - Which Tax Year Return Do I File?

So I've got an S-Corporation with a fiscal year ending June 30th, 2024. I'm getting conflicting advice about which tax year return I should be using for filing. Would I file this as a 2023 or 2024 return? I've been searching through IRS publications but everything seems written for calendar year businesses. Is there a straightforward rule for determining which tax year to use when you have a fiscal year end? This is only my second year operating with this business structure, and last year my accountant handled everything. Now I'm trying to get organized early and understand the process better myself.

For an S-Corporation with a fiscal year ending June 30, 2024, you would file a 2023 Form 1120-S. The general rule is that you file using the year in which your fiscal year began. Since your fiscal year started July 1, 2023 and ended June 30, 2024, you'd file a 2023 return. This can be confusing because the return covers activity that spans two calendar years, but the IRS designates the return by the year in which the fiscal period began. You'll need to file this return by the 15th day of the 3rd month after your fiscal year ends, which would be September 15, 2024. Just remember: fiscal year returns are identified by the calendar year in which the fiscal year begins, not when it ends.

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Kai Santiago

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Thanks for the explanation. I've heard that S-Corps aren't actually allowed to have fiscal years different from their owners unless there's a "business purpose." Is that true? I'm the only shareholder and my personal taxes are calendar year.

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That's an excellent point. S-Corporations generally must use a calendar year unless they can establish a business purpose for a different fiscal year. Common approved business purposes include natural business cycles (like seasonal businesses) or matching a key customer/industry cycle. If you didn't get specific IRS approval for your fiscal year via Form 1128, you might actually be required to use a calendar year. This is something you should verify immediately, as using an unauthorized fiscal year can create complications. If your previous accountant set this up, check if they filed for and received proper approval from the IRS.

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Dananyl Lear

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Does it work for other entity types too? I have an LLC taxed as a partnership with a Sept 30 year-end and always get confused about which year to file under.

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Xan Dae

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One important point nobody has mentioned - make sure you're marking the correct tax year on all your forms. I made the mistake of marking "2024" on my S-Corp return with a fiscal year ending 8/31/2023 because that's when I was filing it. The IRS kicked it back and it delayed everything by months. The form should show the year in which the fiscal year BEGAN, not when you're filing or when the fiscal year ended.

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Thanks for bringing this up! So for my situation with fiscal year ending 6/30/2024, I would mark "2023" on all the forms since that fiscal year began in July 2023, correct? Do I also need to write the actual dates of my fiscal year somewhere on the forms?

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Xan Dae

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Yes, you would mark "2023" on the forms since your fiscal year began in July 2023. And absolutely, you need to clearly indicate your fiscal year dates on the return. On Form 1120-S, there's a specific area at the top of the form where you enter the tax year. You'll check the "fiscal year" box and enter the beginning and ending dates (07/01/2023 - 06/30/2024). This is critical - if you don't clearly indicate your fiscal year dates, the IRS will process it as if you're filing for a calendar year, which would cause all kinds of problems.

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Stupid question maybe, but does anyone know if there's any tax advantage to having a fiscal year vs calendar year for an S-Corp? My CPA suggested switching to fiscal year ending 9/30 but didn't really explain why it would benefit me.

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Thais Soares

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Not a stupid question at all. Fiscal years can provide timing advantages for tax planning. By ending your fiscal year on 9/30, you get an extra 9 months to implement tax strategies before your tax year closes. This can be helpful for deferring income, timing expenses, etc. However, remember that S-Corps pass income through to shareholders' personal returns, which are typically calendar year. This mismatch can create complexity. Also, as others mentioned, you need a legitimate business purpose and IRS approval via Form 1128. Seasonal businesses or those with natural business cycles often have valid reasons for fiscal years.

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Just want to add a quick clarification that might help others avoid confusion - when you're determining which tax year to use, always remember that the IRS considers the fiscal year to "belong" to the calendar year in which it begins, not ends. So if your fiscal year runs from July 1, 2023 to June 30, 2024, it's a "2023 fiscal year" and you file Form 1120-S for tax year 2023. This applies even though most of the business activity might have occurred in calendar year 2024. Also, don't forget that your K-1s to shareholders will also be marked as 2023, which means shareholders report this income on their 2023 personal tax returns (due April 15, 2024). This timing can sometimes work in your favor for tax planning purposes, but it's important to communicate clearly with shareholders about which tax year they'll be reporting the pass-through income.

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Omar Hassan

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This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I needed when I was first dealing with this issue! The timing aspect with K-1s is something that really caught me off guard initially. I didn't realize that even though my fiscal year ended in June 2024, my shareholders would be reporting that income on their 2023 personal returns filed in April 2024. It actually created some confusion because some of my business expenses and income occurred well into 2024, but it all gets reported as "2023" activity. The timing mismatch between fiscal year S-Corps and calendar year individual returns definitely requires some planning ahead, especially when communicating expectations to shareholders about when they'll receive their K-1s and which tax year they'll need to report the income under.

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Mei-Ling Chen

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a twist - I have an S-Corp with a fiscal year ending March 31, 2024, and I'm also a single-member LLC that I'm considering electing S-Corp tax treatment for. Based on what everyone has shared, I understand my existing S-Corp would file a 2023 return (since the fiscal year began April 1, 2023), but I'm wondering if anyone has experience with establishing fiscal years for newly elected S-Corps? Do I need to get IRS approval via Form 1128 before making the S-election, or can I make both elections simultaneously? Also, has anyone dealt with having multiple entities with different fiscal years? I'm trying to figure out if there are any coordination issues I should be aware of when planning distributions and tax strategies across entities.

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Shelby Bauman

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Great question about the timing of elections! For a newly elected S-Corp, you typically need to establish your fiscal year before or simultaneously with your S-election. If you want a fiscal year other than calendar year, you should file Form 1128 (Application to Adopt, Change, or Retain a Tax Year) along with your Form 2553 (Election by a Small Business Corporation) to avoid any complications. Regarding multiple entities with different fiscal years - this can actually create some strategic opportunities but also adds complexity. You'll need to be very careful about timing distributions and inter-company transactions to optimize tax planning across both entities. I'd strongly recommend working with a CPA who has experience with multi-entity structures, as the coordination between different fiscal years can impact your overall tax liability and cash flow planning. The key is making sure you're not creating any unintended timing mismatches that could trigger unexpected tax consequences.

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Aaliyah Reed

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I've been following this thread closely since I'm dealing with a similar fiscal year situation with my S-Corp (fiscal year ending 9/30/2024). One thing I wanted to add that might help others is about estimated tax payments - make sure you're making your quarterly estimated payments based on your fiscal year schedule, not the standard calendar year dates. For my September fiscal year end, my quarterly due dates are December 15, March 15, June 15, and September 15 (instead of the typical January/April/June/September calendar year schedule). I made the mistake my first year of following the standard calendar dates and got confused about which quarter I was paying for. Also, a practical tip - keep really good documentation of your fiscal year election and Form 1128 approval. I've had to provide this documentation multiple times to banks, investors, and even some tax preparers who weren't familiar with fiscal year S-Corps. Having everything organized upfront saves a lot of headaches later when people question why your tax year doesn't match the calendar year.

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Liam O'Reilly

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This is such a valuable point about estimated tax payments! I wish someone had mentioned this when I first set up my fiscal year S-Corp. I also made the mistake of following calendar year payment dates initially and it created confusion with my bookkeeping. One thing to add - if you're also paying yourself a salary through the S-Corp, make sure your payroll tax deposits align with your fiscal year reporting as well. The IRS can get really picky about timing mismatches between your corporate tax year and employment tax reporting if they don't line up properly. Your documentation tip is spot-on too. I've had to dig up my Form 1128 approval multiple times for various business purposes. Now I keep digital copies in multiple places and always include a cover sheet explaining the fiscal year election when I provide tax documents to third parties.

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Yara Khalil

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One thing I don't see mentioned here is the importance of checking whether your fiscal year election is still valid if you've made any significant changes to your S-Corp structure. I learned this the hard way when I added a second shareholder to my S-Corp that had been operating with a June 30 fiscal year end for three years. The IRS required me to re-justify the business purpose for the fiscal year since the ownership structure changed. Apparently, when you have new shareholders, especially if they don't have the same "business purpose" justification, the IRS can revoke your fiscal year election and force you back to calendar year. I had to file a new Form 1128 and provide updated documentation showing that the business purpose still existed with the new ownership structure. It was a months-long process that I wasn't expecting. Just wanted to flag this for anyone who might be considering bringing on new shareholders or changing their S-Corp structure - make sure to verify that your fiscal year election will remain valid after any ownership changes.

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StarStrider

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This is incredibly important information that I hadn't considered! I'm actually in the process of potentially bringing on an investor to my S-Corp that currently operates on a fiscal year ending August 31st. Do you know if there are specific ownership percentage thresholds that trigger this review, or does any change in shareholders potentially invalidate the fiscal year election? Also, did you have to suspend your fiscal year operations during the re-approval process, or were you able to continue operating under the existing fiscal year while the Form 1128 was pending? I'm wondering if I should get this sorted out before finalizing any investment agreements to avoid complications down the road.

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