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Emma Wilson

Fiscal Year End for S-Corp - What Tax Year Return Should I File?

I own a small manufacturing business set up as an S-Corp with a fiscal year ending June 30th, 2024. I'm getting ready to file taxes but I'm genuinely confused about which tax year I should be using for my return. If my fiscal year ended on June 30th, 2024, am I supposed to file this as a 2023 tax return or a 2024 tax return? This is only my second year with this fiscal year setup, and last time my accountant handled everything. Now I'm trying to be more hands-on with the financial side of my business. Is there some general rule about how to determine which tax year to use when you have a fiscal year that spans two calendar years? I've been searching online and getting mixed information. Any help would be greatly appreciated before I mess this up!

So the general rule is pretty straightforward: you file for the tax year in which your fiscal year ends. Since your fiscal year ends on June 30, 2024, you would file a 2024 tax return. The IRS identifies tax returns by the year in which the fiscal period ends, regardless of when the fiscal period began. Your S-Corp return (Form 1120-S) would be due on the 15th day of the 3rd month after the end of your tax year - so September 15, 2024, in your case. Also worth noting that while you're filing a "2024 return," you'll use the tax forms for 2023 since the 2024 forms aren't available yet. This is normal for fiscal year filers.

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Wait I'm confused... so if their year ends in June 2024, they file in September 2024, but they use 2023 forms? What if tax laws changed between 2023 and 2024? Also, do S-corp owners need to align their personal returns with this weird fiscal year thing or can they still do normal calendar year for their personal taxes?

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You file using the 2023 forms because the IRS hasn't released the 2024 forms yet by September 2024. The fiscal year return covers July 2023 through June 2024, so it's identified as a 2024 return, but you have to use the forms available at filing time. For your second question, the S-corp's fiscal year generally doesn't affect the shareholders' personal tax returns. As an S-corp shareholder, you'll still file your personal return (Form 1040) on a calendar year basis. However, you'll report your share of the S-corp's income on your personal return for the calendar year in which the S-corp's fiscal year ends.

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Don't overlook state filing requirements too! Depending on your state, they might have different rules for fiscal year filers. Here in California, we have to file a separate form notifying the state of our fiscal year choice, and there are some weird timing requirements that don't match the federal ones.

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Do you know if there are any resources that break down the different state requirements? I'm in Michigan, but I have clients in three states, so I might need to look into multiple state requirements.

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Each state tax agency usually has specific guidance for business filers. For Michigan, check the Department of Treasury website for "fiscal year filing" guidance. They typically have taxpayer assistance lines that are WAY easier to reach than the IRS. For multistate operations, I'd recommend checking each state where you have nexus. Many states follow the federal fiscal year treatment, but some have notification requirements or special forms. The State Tax Resource page on the Federation of Tax Administrators website has links to all state tax agencies.

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Just to add - if this is your first year as an S-Corp or you've changed your fiscal year, you might need to file Form 1128 (Application to Adopt, Change, or Retain a Tax Year). This isn't always required, but in certain situations the IRS wants you to get permission for your fiscal year choice.

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Does anyone know which accounting software handles fiscal year S-corps the best? I've tried QuickBooks but it gets really confused with my October fiscal year end.

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I've had a good experience with Xero for my fiscal year publishing business. It lets you set your fiscal year dates and generates reports accordingly. The tax forms integration isn't perfect, but it's easier than QuickBooks for fiscal year situations in my experience.

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As a CPA who works with a lot of S-Corps, I can confirm that Malik's explanation is spot on. The key thing to remember is that your tax year follows your fiscal year end date - so June 30, 2024 fiscal year end means you file a 2024 return. One additional point that might help: when you receive your K-1 from the S-Corp, it will be labeled as a 2024 K-1 even though it covers income from July 2023 through June 2024. This K-1 gets reported on your personal 2024 tax return (filed in 2025). The timing can be confusing at first, but once you understand the pattern it becomes much clearer. Also, make sure you're not missing any quarterly estimated tax payments. With a June 30 fiscal year end, your quarterly due dates are September 15, December 15, March 15, and June 15 - different from calendar year filers.

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This is super helpful! I'm actually dealing with this exact situation for the first time with my small consulting firm. Quick question - you mentioned quarterly estimated payments have different due dates for fiscal year filers. Does this mean I need to recalculate my safe harbor payments based on the fiscal year schedule too, or do those still follow the standard calendar year rules? I want to make sure I'm not setting myself up for underpayment penalties.

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Good question about safe harbor payments! For S-Corp shareholders, the safe harbor rules still follow your personal tax return calendar year, not the S-Corp's fiscal year. So you'd calculate safe harbor based on your prior year personal tax liability (either 100% or 110% depending on your AGI). However, the tricky part is timing the payments correctly. Since your S-Corp income gets reported on your personal return for the calendar year in which the fiscal year ends, you need to estimate what that K-1 income will be and include it in your quarterly estimated payments throughout the calendar year. For example, if your S-Corp fiscal year ends June 30, 2024, that income gets reported on your 2024 personal return. You should have been making estimated payments in April, June, September 2024, and January 2025 that include your estimated S-Corp income. Many people miss this timing and end up with underpayment penalties.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a small business owner with a service-based LLC that I'm considering converting to S-Corp status, partly because I want to switch to a fiscal year that better matches my business cycle (most of my revenue comes in Q4). Reading through all these responses, it sounds like the fiscal year filing process is pretty straightforward once you understand the basic rule, but there are definitely some nuances around estimated payments and state requirements that I hadn't considered. One question I have - if I'm planning to make this conversion, should I coordinate the S-Corp election timing with when I want my new fiscal year to start? Or are those two decisions completely separate? I'd hate to create unnecessary complications by not thinking through the timing properly. Also, Emma, how did everything work out with your filing? Did you end up getting it sorted out correctly?

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Great question about coordinating the S-Corp election with your fiscal year timing! These are actually two separate elections, but the timing can definitely impact each other. If you want to start your fiscal year at a specific time, you generally need to make that election when you first file as an S-Corp. The S-Corp election (Form 2553) has to be filed within 2 months and 15 days of the beginning of the tax year you want it to be effective for. So if you want your fiscal year to start January 1st and be an S-Corp from that date, you'd need to file the election by March 15th. However, if you want a fiscal year that doesn't align with the calendar year, you might need additional justification for the IRS - they generally prefer calendar years for S-Corps unless you have a valid business reason for the fiscal year choice. Since your revenue is heavily Q4-weighted, that could actually be a solid business justification for a fiscal year ending in Q4 or early Q1. I'd definitely recommend talking to a tax professional about the timing strategy before you make the elections - the coordination can get tricky and mistakes can be expensive to fix later.

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I just wanted to share my experience as someone who went through this exact confusion a few years ago with my small retail business. The fiscal year filing rules definitely seem backwards at first, but once you get the hang of it, it becomes routine. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple calendar that shows my fiscal year dates, when returns are due, and when estimated payments need to be made. I keep it right on my desk so I never have to second-guess the timing again. Also, if you're working with a new accountant or doing more of this yourself now, make sure they understand that S-Corps with fiscal years have some unique reporting requirements. I had one tax preparer who was used to calendar year filers and made several mistakes on my initial return that we had to amend later. The good news is that once you file your first fiscal year return correctly, the pattern becomes much clearer. Your business accounting software should also be set up to match your fiscal year to make monthly and quarterly reporting much easier. Good luck with your filing!

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This is such a smart approach! I'm definitely going to create a similar calendar system for my business. As someone who's still pretty new to the S-Corp world, I'm curious about the unique reporting requirements you mentioned. Could you give an example of what kinds of mistakes your tax preparer made? I want to make sure I'm asking the right questions when I interview potential accountants so I don't run into the same issues.

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Thanks everyone for all the detailed responses! This thread has been incredibly helpful. I ended up following Malik's advice about filing for the tax year in which my fiscal year ends, so I filed a 2024 return for my June 30, 2024 fiscal year end. I also took several of your suggestions and called the IRS directly to confirm everything (thanks Omar for the Claimyr tip - saved me hours of hold time!). The agent confirmed I was on the right track and also reminded me about the September 15th deadline, which I almost missed focusing on the tax year confusion. One thing I learned that might help others: the IRS agent mentioned that if you're unsure about your fiscal year filing requirements, Publication 538 has all the details about tax years and accounting periods. It's pretty dry reading, but it cleared up several questions I had about the timing. For anyone else dealing with this - definitely don't overthink it like I did. The basic rule really is straightforward: file for the year your fiscal year ends. Everything else follows from that principle. Thanks again for all the help!

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So glad this all worked out for you! This thread has been a goldmine of information. As someone who's been lurking here trying to figure out my own fiscal year situation with my small tech startup, seeing everyone's real experiences and solutions has been incredibly valuable. The tip about Publication 538 is especially helpful - I've been relying on random internet articles that all seemed to contradict each other. Having an official IRS publication to reference will definitely give me more confidence when I file. Thanks for following up with how everything turned out!

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I'm so glad to see this thread helped you get everything sorted out! As a fellow small business owner who's dealt with fiscal year confusion, I totally understand how overwhelming it can feel at first. The IRS publications can be dense, but Publication 538 really is the authoritative source when you need to double-check the rules. One additional resource that might help others - the IRS also has a Business Tax Calendar that shows all the key filing dates for different entity types and fiscal years. You can find it in Publication 509. It's really handy for planning ahead and making sure you don't miss any deadlines. Your point about not overthinking it is spot on. I spent way too much time second-guessing myself when the basic rule really is that simple. Thanks for sharing your experience and helping future readers who might be dealing with the same confusion!

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This whole discussion has been really eye-opening for me as someone who's thinking about starting an S-Corp next year. I had no idea there were so many nuances around fiscal year filing, estimated payments, and state requirements. The calendar approach that Andre mentioned sounds like it would be essential for staying organized - I'm definitely going to implement something like that from day one if I move forward with the S-Corp structure. It's also reassuring to see how helpful this community is when people are genuinely confused about tax issues. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and resources!

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This has been such an educational thread! As someone who's been running a small consulting business as a sole proprietorship but considering the S-Corp election, reading through all these experiences has really highlighted how important it is to understand the fiscal year implications upfront. Emma, I'm glad you got everything sorted out! The confusion you described is exactly what I'd be worried about facing. It sounds like the key takeaways are: 1) file for the tax year when your fiscal year ends, 2) don't forget about the different quarterly payment schedules, 3) check state requirements separately, and 4) keep good records/calendars to track all the deadlines. One question for the group - for those of you who switched from sole proprietorship to S-Corp, did you find that having a fiscal year (vs. calendar year) actually provided meaningful business benefits? I'm trying to weigh whether the added complexity is worth it for the potential tax planning advantages, or if I should just stick with a calendar year S-Corp to keep things simpler. The resources mentioned here (Publication 538, the IRS Business Tax Calendar) are definitely going on my reading list before I make any decisions. Thanks everyone for sharing such detailed real-world experiences!

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Great question about the business benefits of fiscal years vs. calendar years! As someone who made the switch to S-Corp with a fiscal year end, I can share my experience. The main advantage I found was better tax planning - since my business has seasonal revenue (heavy in Q4), having a fiscal year ending in Q1 gives me much better visibility into my annual income before I have to make estimated tax payments. This helped me avoid some of the cash flow issues I used to have with quarterly estimates. However, the complexity is real. Between the different filing deadlines, estimated payment schedules, and having to explain the timing to vendors and lenders, there's definitely more administrative overhead. My accountant also charges a bit more for fiscal year returns since they're less routine. For your consulting business, I'd really think about whether your revenue has strong seasonal patterns or if there are other business reasons that would benefit from a non-calendar year. If your income is relatively steady throughout the year, the calendar year S-Corp route is probably simpler without giving up much in terms of tax benefits. The IRS is pretty strict about needing a valid business purpose for fiscal years, so make sure you can justify it if you go that route!

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As someone who just went through this exact situation with my small architecture firm, I can definitely relate to the confusion! The fiscal year vs. tax year terminology really throws people off at first. One thing that helped me understand it better was thinking of it this way: the IRS doesn't care when your fiscal year *started* - they only care when it *ended*. So your June 30, 2024 fiscal year end means you're filing a "2024" return, even though that fiscal year actually began on July 1, 2023. The tricky part I ran into was making sure all my depreciation schedules and business deductions aligned properly with the fiscal year dates. I'd definitely recommend double-checking that your accounting software is set to your fiscal year dates rather than calendar year, especially for things like equipment purchases and business expenses that need to be allocated correctly. Also, since you mentioned this is only your second year with this setup, make sure you're keeping good documentation of when you adopted the fiscal year. The IRS sometimes asks for this information during audits, and having clean records from the beginning makes everything much smoother down the road.

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This is such a helpful way to think about it! The "IRS only cares when it ended" explanation really clicks for me. I'm dealing with a similar situation with my small marketing agency - we have a September 30th fiscal year end, and I kept getting confused about whether expenses from October through December should go on the "previous" or "current" year return. Your point about making sure accounting software is set to fiscal year dates is spot on. I made that mistake in my first year and had to manually adjust a bunch of reports when it came time to file. Now everything automatically aligns with my September 30th year end, which makes quarterly reviews so much easier. Quick question - when you mention keeping documentation about when you adopted the fiscal year, what specific documents should we be holding onto? I have my initial election forms, but I'm wondering if there's other paperwork the IRS might want to see if they ever audit the fiscal year choice.

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