Is my Bonsai hobby considered a business for tax purposes?
I've been growing bonsai trees for a few years now and I'm confused about whether the IRS would consider this a hobby or a business. I currently have about 25 trees that I care for daily - sometimes watering them twice a day depending on the weather. It's definitely a labor of love! When I trim my trees, I often propagate the cuttings and get them to root into new plants. I've gotten pretty good at this, so I end up with quite a few extra plants. Instead of just giving them all away, I've started selling some on my Facebook page for modest prices. I post photos of my collection and occasionally offer cuttings or trees I've grown tired of or need to remove to free up space in my apartment. The plants definitely have value, and I'm making some money from these sales. I've been saving this money specifically to buy more expensive bonsai specimens for my collection. What's confusing me is determining if this qualifies as a business for tax purposes. Some aspects seem business-like, but honestly, I'm just pursuing my passion and selling extras to fund my hobby. I don't plan on deducting expenses, and I'm really just keeping track of the money so I don't feel guilty about purchasing more expensive trees later. Since there's minimal financial investment besides my time, almost all the money from sales could be considered profit. Does this mean the IRS would consider this a business? How do I know where the line is between hobby and business for tax purposes?
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Freya Larsen
The distinction between hobby and business isn't always crystal clear, but there are some guidelines to help you figure it out. The IRS looks at several factors, not just whether you make money. The key question is: are you trying to make a profit? It sounds like you're selling plants to fund your hobby rather than trying to create a primary income source. However, the IRS has what's called a "profit test" - if you make a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years, they generally presume it's a business. Other factors they consider: Do you keep good records? Do you depend on this income? Have you changed methods to improve profitability? Do you have expertise in bonsai? How much time do you spend? Does it have elements of personal pleasure? Based on what you've described, this sounds like a hobby with some income rather than a business. But remember, even hobby income is technically taxable (reported on Schedule 1, line 8), though you can no longer deduct hobby expenses after the 2017 tax law changes. If you decide it's actually a business, you'd report on Schedule C and could deduct expenses, but you'd also pay self-employment tax on profits over $400.
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Ravi Sharma
•Thanks so much for the detailed explanation! I definitely don't depend on this income at all - it's purely to fund more expensive bonsai purchases. I do keep basic records of sales but nothing elaborate. I probably spend about 5-7 hours a week on my trees, but that's because I enjoy it, not to maximize profits. One question - if I continue selling plants but keep it small scale and don't take deductions, do I still need to report this income somewhere on my tax return? And if it stays under a certain dollar amount annually, does that make a difference?
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Freya Larsen
•Yes, technically all income is reportable to the IRS regardless of the amount - there's no minimum threshold for reporting hobby income. You would report it on Schedule 1, Line 8 as "Other Income" and write "Hobby Income" in the description. The dollar amount doesn't change whether you need to report it, but practically speaking, very small amounts are less likely to trigger scrutiny. If your sales become more substantial, definitely report them to avoid potential issues later. Some people use the $600 threshold (when businesses must issue 1099s) as a rule of thumb, but legally all income should be reported.
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Omar Hassan
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Diego Ramirez
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Zara Ahmed
Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - the IRS actually has a specific "9 factors test" they use to determine if an activity is a hobby or business: 1. Whether you carry on the activity in a businesslike manner 2. Your expertise (or your advisors') 3. The time and effort you spend on it 4. Whether assets used may appreciate in value 5. Your success in similar activities 6. Your history of income or losses 7. The amount of occasional profits earned 8. Your financial status (if you have other income sources) 9. Elements of personal pleasure/recreation From what you described, you have more hobby factors (personal pleasure, not your main income, not conducted in a super businesslike way), but documenting expenses and showing intent to make profit over time might push you toward business territory if you want that classification.
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Ravi Sharma
•This is super helpful, thank you! Looking at these factors, I'm definitely more on the hobby side. My financial records are pretty basic, I primarily do it for enjoyment, and the income is small compared to my day job. One more question - if I do decide to formally track this as a hobby on my taxes, should I be keeping receipts for all my bonsai-related purchases even though I can't deduct them? Just in case the IRS ever has questions?
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Zara Ahmed
•Good question! Yes, I would recommend keeping basic records of both your sales and expenses, even though you can't deduct the expenses for a hobby. This serves two important purposes: First, if the IRS ever questions whether this is truly a hobby, your records can help demonstrate the financial reality of your activity. Second, if you eventually transition to business status, having historical records will be valuable. Also, while you can't deduct hobby expenses against hobby income anymore (thanks to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act), keeping track of expenses helps you understand the true economics of your activity. Just keep it simple - a basic spreadsheet and a folder for receipts should be sufficient. No need for elaborate bookkeeping if it's truly just a hobby.
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Luca Conti
Anyone know if selling plants online through Etsy changes the hobby/business determination? I've been propagating houseplants (not bonsai but similar concept) and selling about $1500/year through Etsy. They sent me a 1099-K last year and I didn't know what to do with it.
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Nia Johnson
•Getting a 1099-K means Etsy is reporting that income to the IRS, so you definitely need to report it on your tax return. Starting in 2022, platforms like Etsy are required to issue 1099-Ks for $600+ in sales (used to be $20k). This doesn't automatically make your activity a business, but it does mean the IRS knows about the income. You'd still apply the same hobby vs business tests others mentioned. If it's a hobby, report on Schedule 1 (Other Income). If business, Schedule C.
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