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Ava Kim

Can I convert my woodworking hobby into a business to reduce my tax burden?

I've been getting hit with a huge tax bill every year and I'm trying to find ways to reduce what I'm paying to the IRS. One idea I've been considering is turning my woodworking hobby into an actual business. I've always wanted to get more serious about woodworking anyway, and I'm thinking this might be a good opportunity to both pursue my passion and possibly lower my taxable income. Would it make financial sense to establish an S-Corp before purchasing equipment like saws, lathes, and other woodworking tools? Could I then legitimately deduct things like a portion of my home as office/workshop space, some utilities, maybe even a percentage of meals when discussing "business," and perhaps part of my vehicle expenses for supply runs? My plan would be to create a legitimate woodworking business and sell my creations on Etsy or at local craft fairs. Realistically, I probably won't make huge profits initially and might even report losses for the first few years. The main appeal is that I wouldn't necessarily be spending much more than I would on the hobby anyway - just reallocating those expenses as business deductions. Is this a legitimate tax strategy? Can I really reduce my tax liability this way while pursuing something I enjoy, or am I missing something important here?

This is definitely something many hobbyists consider, but you need to be careful. The IRS has specific rules about what constitutes a business versus a hobby. The key distinction is whether you have a profit motive - they want to see that you're genuinely trying to make money, not just creating tax deductions. For a legitimate business, you need to show you're operating in a businesslike manner - keeping separate records, making decisions to improve profitability, and generally acting like you intend to make money. If you consistently report losses year after year, that's a red flag that could trigger the "hobby loss rules" where the IRS disallows your deductions. As for starting as an S-Corp right away, that's probably premature. Most small businesses start as sole proprietorships (Schedule C) and only convert to S-Corps when the self-employment tax savings justify the additional compliance costs of running a corporation.

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Layla Mendes

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How many years of losses would typically trigger an audit? Is there a specific profit-to-loss ratio the IRS looks for? Also, would tracking all my hours spent woodworking help establish it as a legitimate business?

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There's no fixed number of years that automatically triggers an audit, but the general guideline is that showing a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years can help establish a profit motive. The IRS doesn't have a specific profit-to-loss ratio they're looking for, but they do examine the pattern and magnitude of losses. Tracking your hours is definitely helpful! Documenting the time you spend, maintaining good business records, having a separate bank account, creating a business plan, and actively marketing your products all demonstrate you're running a legitimate business rather than just pursuing a hobby with tax benefits.

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Aria Park

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Did they help with determining what percentage of home expenses you could legitimately deduct? I'm wondering about my garage workshop space and if utilities are partially deductible.

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Sounds interesting, but how is this different from just talking to a regular accountant? I'm skeptical of online services claiming to solve complex tax situations.

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Olivia Harris

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - don't forget about self-employment taxes! If you do make your woodworking a legitimate business, you'll pay an additional 15.3% on your profits for Medicare and Social Security taxes. This is on top of income tax. This is one reason why an S-Corp can eventually make sense (after you're profitable), as you can pay yourself a reasonable salary (subject to SE tax) and take the rest as distributions (not subject to SE tax).

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Ava Kim

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Wait, so if I report losses in the beginning, would I still have to pay self-employment taxes? That seems counterintuitive if I'm not making money yet.

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No, you wouldn't pay self-employment taxes on losses. Self-employment taxes only apply to profits. If your business has a net loss, there's no profit to tax. That said, consistent losses could potentially trigger IRS scrutiny under the hobby loss rules we discussed earlier. It's a balancing act - you want to take legitimate deductions to reduce your tax liability, but you also need to demonstrate a genuine intent to make profit over time.

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Alicia Stern

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Just went through this with my pottery business! My advice: start as a sole proprietor (Schedule C) first, not an S-Corp. Way simpler and lower compliance costs. You'll need to be careful about what you deduct. For equipment, anything over $2,500 typically needs to be depreciated rather than expensed entirely in year one (though Section 179 and bonus depreciation might help). For home workspace, you can only deduct space used EXCLUSIVELY for business. If your workshop doubles as storage or family space, you'll run into problems.

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How serious are they about the "exclusively for business" part? My garage is technically my workshop but also stores holiday decorations and some other stuff. Would that disqualify the entire space?

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