Is filing taxes necessary if someone only receives social security and VA benefits?
My dad has been living solely on social security payments and VA benefits for the past 5 years, but hasn't filed any tax returns during this time. I've been getting concerned about this situation lately. I was under the impression that both social security and VA benefits are already post-tax income sources. Given that these are his only income streams, I'm wondering if I need to be pressuring him to get caught up on filing for the previous 3 tax years. If he truly has $0 in taxable income, does it even matter whether he files or not? I don't want to stress him out unnecessarily, but I also don't want him to get in trouble with the IRS down the road. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Keisha Williams
Social Security and VA benefits can sometimes be taxable, depending on your dad's total income. For Social Security, if his combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of Social Security benefits) exceeds certain thresholds, then up to 85% of benefits could be taxable. However, VA benefits are generally tax-free. If your father's only income is Social Security and VA benefits, and the combined amount is low enough, he likely doesn't have a filing requirement. The key is determining if his income meets the filing threshold, which depends on filing status (single, married, etc.). Even without a filing requirement, there might be benefits to filing - like getting refunds of any withheld taxes or claiming credits he might be eligible for. Some seniors qualify for the Credit for the Elderly or Disabled, which could result in a refund.
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Paolo Ricci
•Thanks for explaining that. One question though - how do we figure out what the filing threshold is for him? He's widowed (5 years ago) and lives alone. Also, would the IRS ever come after him for not filing if he actually wasn't required to?
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Keisha Williams
•For 2025 filing (2024 tax year), if your dad files as Single, the threshold would be $14,600 for those 65 or older. If he files as Qualifying Widower (possible for two years after spouse's death), it would be $27,300 for those 65+. Beyond those years, he'd use the Single filing status. The IRS generally doesn't pursue people who have no filing requirement. If your dad's income is below the threshold and consists only of potentially non-taxable benefits, there's minimal risk. However, the only way to be absolutely certain is to calculate whether any portion of his Social Security is taxable based on his specific income amounts.
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Amina Toure
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Oliver Zimmermann
•Does it actually understand VA benefits specifically? My dad gets both regular VA disability and Aid & Attendance, and I've always been confused about how those different types are treated for tax purposes.
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CosmicCommander
•I'm skeptical of these online tools. How does it actually determine the filing requirement? Does it just apply a simple formula, or does it consider all the exceptions and special circumstances that might apply to veterans?
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Amina Toure
•Yes, it specifically distinguishes between different VA benefit types like disability compensation, pension benefits, and Aid & Attendance. It correctly identifies which ones are taxable (very few) and which are tax-free (most). It also considers how these interact with Social Security for potential taxation. The tool uses the same rules the IRS applies, including all the special provisions for veterans. It considers factors like filing status, age, combined income sources, potential deductions, and available tax credits. It's much more comprehensive than basic calculators because it actually reads and interprets the benefit statements.
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CosmicCommander
I was skeptical about taxr.ai like I mentioned, but I tried it with my father-in-law's documents (he gets VA disability and Social Security). It actually provided really clear guidance that was eye-opening. In his case, he wasn't required to file, but it showed he was missing out on a refundable credit he could claim. The benefit statement analysis was more thorough than I expected - it broke down exactly which portions of his benefits were taxable vs. non-taxable and explained why in plain English. Saved me a ton of research time figuring out the different rules for each benefit type.
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Natasha Volkova
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Malik Johnson
One thing no one has mentioned - if your dad might qualify for any means-tested benefits now or in the future (like Medicaid or housing assistance), having tax returns on file can sometimes make that application process much smoother. My mother needed to provide proof of income when applying for subsidized senior housing, and tax returns were the easiest way to document her situation.
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Isabella Ferreira
•That's a really good point. My aunt ran into issues applying for a property tax relief program because she hadn't filed taxes in years, even though she wasn't required to. They needed official documentation of her income, and she ended up having to file returns just to complete the application. Might be worth filing just to have the paperwork on hand.
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Malik Johnson
•Exactly! Many assistance programs, while they understand that seniors often don't have filing requirements, still use tax returns as the standard documentation for income verification. Filing creates an official record that's easily accessible. Another benefit is that filing establishes a pattern of compliance that can be helpful if questions ever arise later. Even a return showing zero tax liability creates a paper trail showing your dad has been transparent about his financial situation. It's much easier than trying to reconstruct financial records years later if they're ever needed.
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Ravi Sharma
Does anyone know if there's a penalty for filing late if you weren't required to file in the first place? My mom is in a similar situation with just SS and VA benefits, but now needs returns for a mortgage application.
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NebulaNomad
•There's no penalty for filing late if you don't owe any taxes! The IRS penalties are based on unpaid tax amounts - if the tax due is zero, the penalty is zero. Your mom can file previous years' returns without any concerns about late fees if she wasn't required to file and doesn't owe anything.
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TechNinja
I'd also recommend checking if your dad qualifies for the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) program. Since he's a senior with what sounds like a straightforward tax situation, he could get free tax preparation help from IRS-certified volunteers. Many VITA sites specifically focus on seniors and veterans, so they'd be familiar with both Social Security and VA benefit taxation rules. Even if he doesn't need to file, they could review his situation at no cost and provide official documentation of that determination. Plus, if there are any beneficial credits or refunds he's missing out on, they'd catch those too. You can find locations at irs.gov/vita - many operate year-round, not just during tax season.
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Holly Lascelles
•VITA is an excellent suggestion! I used their services for my grandmother last year and was really impressed with how knowledgeable they were about veteran-specific situations. The volunteers at our local site had specific training on VA benefits and how they interact with other income sources. They were able to confirm she didn't need to file while also identifying a small refund she was owed from a previous year. The service is completely free and they're very patient with seniors who might be anxious about tax matters.
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Ethan Anderson
Based on what you've described, your dad is likely not required to file taxes. VA disability benefits are completely tax-free, and Social Security benefits are only taxable if total income exceeds certain thresholds (which seems unlikely given his situation). However, I'd strongly recommend having his situation reviewed just for peace of mind. Even if he's not required to file, there might be refundable credits he's missing out on - like the Additional Child Tax Credit if he has qualifying dependents, or potential refunds from any withholding on other small income sources. The key thing to remember is that the IRS doesn't penalize people who aren't required to file. If his income truly consists only of Social Security and VA benefits below the filing threshold, he's in the clear. But getting an official determination would eliminate your worry and potentially uncover any benefits he's entitled to claim.
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Rajan Walker
•This is really helpful information! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my elderly neighbor who's been worried about this exact issue. One thing I'm curious about - if someone has been receiving Social Security and VA benefits for several years without filing, and it turns out they weren't required to file anyway, is there any benefit to going back and filing those previous years' returns now? Or would it just be unnecessary paperwork at this point? I'm thinking about situations like what others mentioned - needing documentation for benefit applications or mortgage situations down the road. Would filing previous years help establish that paper trail, or is it better to just start fresh going forward?
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Dananyl Lear
Great question about filing previous years' returns! If your dad wasn't required to file and doesn't owe any taxes, filing previous years is generally optional but can be beneficial in certain situations. The main advantages of filing back years would be: 1) Creating an official income record for future benefit applications (as others mentioned), 2) Claiming any refunds or credits he might have missed (you generally have 3 years to claim refunds), and 3) Establishing a clear paper trail showing compliance. However, if his situation is straightforward - just Social Security and VA benefits below filing thresholds - the IRS already has records of his Social Security income from SSA reporting. The main decision point would be whether he needs those official tax documents for any current applications or peace of mind. I'd suggest starting with determining his current year filing requirement first, then decide about previous years based on whether there are specific benefits to gain. No rush on this decision since there are no penalties involved when no taxes are owed.
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