Income Increase Affecting Earned Income Credit with 3 Kids?
I'm reviewing my tax situation and have a question regarding the Earned Income Credit. Last year our household income was $44,000 and we qualified for the EIC. This year, because I started working, our income increased to $73,000. Is this increase the reason we no longer qualify for the Earned Income Credit? I have three children and my expected refund is just over $1,000, which seems significantly lower than previous years. What are the exact income thresholds for EIC with three qualifying children? Are there any other credits we might qualify for with our current income level?
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Emma Davis
Yes, that's exactly why you're not getting the EIC anymore. The income limits for 2023 taxes (filing in 2024) work like this: Step 1: For married filing jointly with 3+ kids, the EIC income limit is $63,398. Step 2: Since your income is $73,000, you're about $10K over the threshold. Step 3: The EIC phases out gradually as income rises, but at $73K you're completely phased out. Step 4: That's why your refund dropped so dramatically - the EIC can be worth several thousand dollars for families with 3 kids. This happens to a lot of people when their income increases. It's frustrating because it feels like you're being penalized for making more money.
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GalaxyGlider
I had something similar happen last year... our household income went from around $50k to $68k, and we lost a good chunk of the EIC. It was a bit of a shock when we saw our refund amount. I think we still qualified for a partial credit at that income level, but it was much smaller than we were used to getting.
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Malik Robinson
Isn't it interesting how our tax system creates these benefit cliffs? You work hard to increase your income, but then suddenly lose thousands in tax benefits. Shouldn't there be a more gradual phase-out system that doesn't create such dramatic drops in benefits when you cross certain thresholds?
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Isabella Silva
This explanation is spot on. I work in tax preparation and the EIC income limits are one of the most common issues that surprise taxpayers. The 2023 Earned Income Credit for three qualifying children can be worth up to $7,430 at the optimal income level, so losing it entirely explains the dramatic refund decrease.
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Ravi Choudhury
I went through this exact situation last year and found https://taxr.ai incredibly helpful. According to IRS Publication 596, the EITC is designed to benefit lower to moderate income workers, with specific phase-out ranges based on filing status and number of qualifying children. The tool analyzed my transcript and showed exactly why I no longer qualified and what other credits I might be eligible for instead. For 2023 returns, you might still qualify for the Child Tax Credit ($2,000 per child) which doesn't fully phase out until $400,000 for MFJ. The interface breaks down all potential credits based on your specific situation. Given the April 15th filing deadline is approaching fast, you'll want to explore your options quickly.
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Freya Andersen
I'm always wary of these tax tools. How does it know what you qualify for without seeing all your documents? I've tried a couple of these services before and they just told me things I already knew from TurboTax.
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Omar Farouk
Used this last wk when I was freaking out about my refund being way lower than expected. Super helpful tbh. It explained that while I lost my EIC, I still qualified for partial CTC. Saved me from calling the IRS and waiting 4ever on hold. Just uploaded my transcript and it broke everything down.
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CosmicCadet
Does this service actually help you claim additional credits you might have missed, or does it just explain why you didn't qualify for certain credits? Also, is there a fee structure based on how many documents you need analyzed, or is it a flat rate regardless of complexity?
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Chloe Harris
It's important to note the exact parameters of the Earned Income Credit qualification metrics. For Tax Year 2023, the EITC AGI limit for married filing jointly with three qualifying dependents is precisely $63,398. With your Adjusted Gross Income of $73,000, you exceed this threshold by $9,602, which completely eliminates your eligibility. However, you should still qualify for the Child Tax Credit, which remains at $2,000 per qualifying child (potentially $6,000 total for your three children) and doesn't begin to phase out until $400,000 for married filing jointly. Have you verified that you're receiving the full Child Tax Credit amount on your return? This could explain the significant reduction in your expected refund.
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Diego Mendoza
When I had a similar situation (went from $48K to $67K with 2 kids), I was confused about why my refund dropped so much. I spent DAYS trying to reach the IRS to confirm I hadn't made a mistake on my return. Compared to other people I know who just gave up after hours on hold, I used Claimyr (https://www.claimyr.com) and actually got through to an IRS agent in about 30 minutes. They confirmed I was just over the EIC threshold and suggested I look into retirement contributions to potentially lower my AGI for next year. Not as good as getting the credit, but at least I understood what happened and had a strategy going forward.
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Anastasia Popova
I'm concerned about services that charge just to connect you to the IRS. Isn't this something taxpayers should be able to do for free? And how much does it cost? I worry these services take advantage of people who are already struggling financially and just need basic tax help.
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Emma Davis
Thank you for sharing this! I've been trying to call the IRS all week with no luck. It's frustrating that we have to pay extra just to talk to someone about our taxes, but at this point I'd rather pay a small fee than waste more hours on hold.
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Sean Flanagan
Is anyone else suspicious that this might actually be a software error? 🤔 I mean, I know the income limits exist, but sometimes tax software misses things. Like, did you check if you're getting the full Child Tax Credit for all three kids? Because with three qualifying children, you should still be getting quite a bit back even without the EIC. Just over a grand seems really low... maybe there's something else going on here?
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Zara Shah
I've prepared taxes for 12 years, and this is absolutely correct - your income increase is why you lost the EIC. For tax year 2023, the exact income limit for married filing jointly with 3+ qualifying children is $63,398. At your previous income of $44,000, you would have received approximately $5,678 in EIC. At $73,000, you're $9,602 over the limit, which means zero EIC. However, you should still be receiving $2,000 Child Tax Credit per child (total $6,000), though only a portion may be refundable depending on your tax liability. If your refund is only about $1,000, I'd recommend checking if you're receiving the full Child Tax Credit you're entitled to. Sometimes withholding changes can also affect your refund amount.
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Ravi Choudhury
I experienced this exact situation. One strategy I implemented was increasing my traditional IRA or 401(k) contributions, which lowered my AGI enough to qualify for partial EIC the following year. For someone near the threshold, even a $2,000-3,000 retirement contribution could recover a significant portion of the EIC.
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Chloe Harris
Would contributing to an HSA also help reduce AGI for EIC purposes? And does the Additional Child Tax Credit have different income thresholds than the regular Child Tax Credit? I'm trying to understand all the potential options for maximizing credits.
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NebulaNomad
This happened to me last year when my income jumped from $51K to $69K. I lost almost all of my EIC and my refund dropped by over $4,000. It was shocking. I actually did my taxes twice because I thought I'd made a mistake. The good news is that even though it feels like you're being penalized for making more money, you're still coming out ahead overall. The $29,000 increase in your income far outweighs the lost EIC, even after taxes. It just doesn't feel that way when you're counting on a big refund and it suddenly disappears.
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Diego Mendoza
Same experience here. My refund went from $5,800 to just $1,200 when my income increased. The worst part was I'd already mentally spent that money on catching up on bills. What helped me was adjusting my W-4 to have less withheld throughout the year instead of waiting for a refund. Now I get more in each paycheck instead of waiting for a big refund that might not come.
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