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Eve Freeman

Do you need earned income to qualify for the child tax credit? (CTC requirements)

I've been going around in circles trying to find a straight answer about the child tax credit. The IRS website mentions there's a maximum income limit, but I can't seem to find anything about a minimum income requirement. Some friends told me you need to earn at least a few thousand dollars to qualify for the CTC, but then others said that's not true. I'm a stay-at-home parent this year while my spouse works, and I'm trying to figure out if we'll still qualify for the child tax credit on our 2025 tax return even though I personally don't have any earned income. We file jointly and have two kids (7 and 4). Has anyone dealt with this before? What's the real answer about needing earned income for the child tax credit? I just want to know if we should be planning differently for our taxes next year.

The Child Tax Credit doesn't require YOU personally to have earned income if you're filing jointly with your spouse who does have earned income. The confusion might be because people mix up the Child Tax Credit (CTC) with the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC) or the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC). For the regular Child Tax Credit, there's no minimum income requirement - just the upper income limits before it starts phasing out. For the 2025 tax filing season, those phase-out thresholds are $400,000 for married filing jointly and $200,000 for other filing statuses. The confusion might come from the refundability rules. In the past, if the CTC exceeded your tax liability, you could only get a portion refunded if you had earned income (through the Additional Child Tax Credit). But recent changes have made the credit fully refundable for many families regardless of earned income.

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Caden Turner

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Wait, I'm confused. So you're saying for 2025 taxes, a family could have ZERO earned income and still get the full child tax credit? That doesn't sound right. Don't you need to at least have some income to get a tax credit? And what about the "tax credit" vs "tax deduction" difference? Sorry, tax stuff makes my head spin.

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Let me clarify. The Child Tax Credit reduces your tax liability, but whether you get money back depends on your situation. If your family has zero income, you wouldn't have any tax liability to reduce, so the non-refundable portion wouldn't help you. For the refundable portion, the rules have changed several times in recent years. For 2025, you should still qualify for the refundable portion of the CTC with your spouse's earned income on a joint return, even if you personally don't work. The key is that there's earned income on the tax return, not that each individual has earned income.

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Okay, I want to clarify something here because there seems to be confusion. There's an important distinction between the Child Tax Credit (CTC) and the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC). The regular Child Tax Credit doesn't have a minimum income requirement, but it's a non-refundable credit - meaning it can only reduce your tax liability to zero, not below zero. So if you don't have enough income to generate tax liability, you wouldn't benefit from the non-refundable portion. The ADDITIONAL Child Tax Credit is the refundable portion, which historically did require earned income. The rules have changed several times, but typically some earned income has been required to get the refundable portion. For 2025 filing, a joint return with earned income from either spouse should qualify, but you'll want to check the latest rules as they keep changing.

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So if my husband works but I don't, and we file jointly, does that mean we get both the regular CTC and the additional/refundable part? Our combined income is around $65,000 if that matters.

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Yes, with a joint income of $65,000 where your husband works but you don't, you should qualify for both the regular Child Tax Credit and the refundable portion (ACTC) assuming you have qualifying children. Since you're well below the phase-out threshold of $400,000 for joint filers, you should be eligible for the full credit amount per qualifying child. The earned income on your joint return from your husband's work satisfies the earned income requirement for the refundable portion, even though you personally don't have earned income. That's the advantage of filing jointly in your situation.

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Has anyone noticed that the IRS publications are super unclear about this? I spent like an hour on their website and still couldn't find a straight answer about minimum income for the CTC. It's all about the phase-out thresholds and qualifying child requirements but barely mentions anything about minimum income. Why can't they just have a simple FAQ that says "Do you need earned income to claim the CTC? Yes/No and here's why...

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The IRS makes everything complicated on purpose, I swear. I think they want people to just give up and not claim credits they're entitled to. I've found the instructions for Form 8812 (Additional Child Tax Credit) have more details about the earned income requirements than the main CTC pages.

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Thanks for the tip about Form 8812 instructions! You're right, that does have more detailed info. It's still ridiculous that you have to dig through technical form instructions to find basic eligibility requirements that should be front and center. I just want to know if my family qualifies without needing a law degree!

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Peyton Clarke

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I completely understand the confusion here! As someone who has navigated this exact situation, let me break it down simply: For the Child Tax Credit in 2025, there is NO minimum earned income requirement for YOU personally when filing jointly with a working spouse. The key factors are: 1. Your combined household income must be below the phase-out limits ($400k for joint filers) 2. You must have qualifying children 3. There must be some earned income on the tax return (which your spouse provides) The confusion often comes from mixing up different credits. The Child Tax Credit itself doesn't require both spouses to work. What matters is that your joint return shows earned income from at least one spouse. For the refundable portion (Additional Child Tax Credit), recent tax law changes have made this more accessible to families like yours. With your spouse working and filing jointly, you should qualify for both the non-refundable and refundable portions of the credit. Bottom line: You're likely eligible for the full Child Tax Credit based on your situation. The "minimum income" myths probably come from older rules or people confusing it with other credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit, which has different requirements.

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Rosie Harper

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This is exactly the clear explanation I was looking for! Thank you so much for breaking it down without all the confusing tax jargon. I've been worrying about this for months, thinking we might not qualify since I'm not working this year. It's such a relief to know that filing jointly with my husband's income is enough. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain the difference between the regular CTC and the Additional Child Tax Credit too - that was part of what was confusing me when I was trying to research this online.

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Liam Brown

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I went through this exact same confusion last year! As a tax professional, I can confirm that you absolutely do NOT need personal earned income to qualify for the Child Tax Credit when filing jointly with your working spouse. The key point everyone's touching on is correct - it's about the household having earned income on the joint return, not each individual spouse. Your husband's earned income satisfies this requirement completely. For 2025 taxes, here's what you need to know: - Child Tax Credit: Up to $2,000 per qualifying child under 17 - No minimum income requirement for the credit itself - Phase-out starts at $400,000 AGI for joint filers - The refundable portion (Additional Child Tax Credit) is available with earned income on your joint return With two qualifying children (ages 7 and 4), you could be looking at up to $4,000 in Child Tax Credit, assuming your joint income is below the phase-out threshold. The fact that you personally don't work this year doesn't change your eligibility at all. The IRS website is notoriously unclear about this distinction, which is why so many people get confused. You're definitely not alone in struggling to find a straight answer!

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Madison Allen

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Thank you for this professional confirmation! It's so reassuring to hear from someone who works in tax preparation that we're on the right track. I've been second-guessing myself because I kept hearing conflicting information from different sources. One quick follow-up question - you mentioned the $4,000 potential credit for our two kids. Is that the total we could receive back as a refund if our tax liability is lower than that amount, or does some of it depend on how much we actually owe in taxes? I'm still trying to wrap my head around how the refundable vs non-refundable portions work in practice. Also, do you happen to know if there are any other credits we should be looking into as a single-income family with young children? I want to make sure we're not missing anything else we might qualify for!

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Ravi Patel

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Great question about the refundable vs non-refundable portions! Let me break this down: The $4,000 total breaks down like this: First, the non-refundable portion reduces your tax liability dollar-for-dollar down to zero. Then, if there's any credit left over, the refundable portion (Additional Child Tax Credit) can be paid to you as a refund even if you owe no taxes. For 2025, up to $1,600 per child is refundable, so potentially $3,200 of your $4,000 could come back as a refund if your tax liability is low enough. For other credits to look into: definitely check the Child and Dependent Care Credit if you pay for childcare while your spouse works, and the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) - this one actually favors single-income families and can be substantial with two kids. The American Opportunity Tax Credit if either of you are in college, and don't forget to check if your state has additional child tax credits! I'd recommend running the numbers or consulting with a tax professional to see your specific situation, but you're likely eligible for more credits than just the CTC.

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I've been following this thread and wanted to add some clarity based on my experience helping families navigate this exact situation. The confusion around CTC earnings requirements is incredibly common, and you're absolutely right to seek clarification! The bottom line for your situation: Filing jointly with your working spouse means you qualify for the Child Tax Credit - no personal earnings required on your part. The tax code looks at your household's combined earned income, not individual earnings. What I find helpful is thinking of it this way: when you file jointly, the IRS treats you as one economic unit. Your spouse's W-2 income becomes "your" joint income for tax purposes. So even though you didn't personally earn wages this year, your family unit did. For 2025 taxes with your 7 and 4-year-old, you're looking at potentially $4,000 in CTC ($2,000 per qualifying child), assuming your joint income stays under the $400,000 phase-out threshold. The refundable portion means you could receive money back even if your total tax liability is less than the credit amount. Don't let the complexity of IRS publications stress you out - your instinct that something seemed off about needing personal earned income was correct. Joint filing is specifically designed to treat married couples as a single tax unit, which works in your favor here!

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Rajiv Kumar

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This is such a helpful way to think about it - as "one economic unit" when filing jointly! I've been stressing about this for weeks because I kept reading conflicting information online and wasn't sure if our family would qualify. Your explanation really clicked for me, especially the part about my spouse's W-2 income becoming our joint income for tax purposes. It's honestly ridiculous how confusing the IRS makes this. Like you said, if joint filing treats married couples as a single tax unit, why isn't that more clearly explained on their website? Instead, you have to dig through dense publications and hope you're interpreting everything correctly. Thank you for confirming the $4,000 potential credit for our two kids - that would make a huge difference for our family budget next year. I feel so much more confident now about our tax planning. This thread has been a lifesaver compared to trying to navigate the IRS website alone!

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I was literally in the same exact situation last year - stay-at-home parent while my husband worked, and I spent way too much time worrying about whether we'd qualify for the Child Tax Credit. Everyone here is absolutely right: there's NO minimum earned income requirement for YOU personally when you're married filing jointly. The IRS looks at your household's total earned income, not whether each spouse individually has earnings. Your husband's work income on your joint return is all you need. What really helped me understand this was realizing that when you file jointly, you're essentially telling the IRS "we're one financial household." So his income becomes your shared income for tax purposes, even if you didn't personally earn it. With your two kids (7 and 4), you should be looking at up to $4,000 in Child Tax Credit, assuming your joint income is under the phase-out limits. And a good chunk of that can be refundable, meaning you could get money back even if you don't owe much in taxes. The IRS website really is terrible at explaining this clearly - you're definitely not alone in being confused! But you can stop worrying - your family situation absolutely qualifies for the CTC. Focus your tax planning energy on making sure you don't miss any other credits you might be eligible for!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm actually in a similar situation but with a twist - I'm the newcomer here and just joined this community because I've been struggling with the same CTC questions. Reading through everyone's experiences has been so reassuring. I'm also a stay-at-home parent this year (first time ever!) while my partner works, and I was getting conflicting advice from family members about whether we'd qualify for the child tax credit. Some relatives insisted I needed to have my own job to get the credit, while others said that was wrong but couldn't explain why. What really stands out to me from this discussion is how the "one economic unit" concept makes so much sense for joint filers. It's frustrating that the IRS doesn't lead with that explanation on their website! Instead of burying people in technical jargon, they could just start with "When married filing jointly, we look at your household's combined income, not individual earnings." Thank you all for sharing your real experiences and clearing this up. It's such a relief to know our family will still qualify for the CTC even though only one of us is working this year. This community seems really supportive for navigating these confusing tax questions!

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Aisha Patel

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Welcome to the community, everyone who's been sharing their experiences! As a newcomer here, I have to say this thread has been incredibly eye-opening. I'm in almost the exact same boat - staying home with my 3-year-old while my spouse works, and I've been losing sleep over whether we'll qualify for the Child Tax Credit. The "one economic unit" explanation really resonates with me. I think part of my confusion came from thinking about taxes too individually, when really joint filing is designed to treat married couples as a single financial household. That makes the whole earned income question so much clearer! What's been most helpful is hearing from actual families who've been through this, plus getting confirmation from tax professionals in the thread. The IRS website really is awful at explaining this stuff in plain English. I spent hours trying to find a simple answer and just got more confused by all the technical language. I feel so much more confident now about our tax planning. With one qualifying child, we should be looking at up to $2,000 in CTC, and knowing that my spouse's income satisfies the earned income requirement takes a huge weight off my shoulders. Thanks to everyone for creating such a supportive discussion - this is exactly the kind of real-world advice that makes navigating tax season less stressful!

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Diego Vargas

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Welcome to the community! I'm also pretty new here and just went through this exact same stress last year. It's so validating to see how many of us have struggled with this same question - makes me feel less alone in finding the IRS website completely unhelpful! Your situation sounds almost identical to mine. I was a first-time stay-at-home parent last year and kept second-guessing whether we'd qualify for the CTC. The worst part was getting different answers from everyone I asked - some said I needed my own job, others said that was wrong but couldn't explain the actual rules clearly. What finally put my mind at ease was exactly what everyone's been saying here: when you file jointly, your spouse's earned income becomes your household's earned income for tax purposes. The IRS doesn't care which specific person in the marriage earned the money - they just care that the household has qualifying earned income and meets the other requirements. With your 3-year-old, that $2,000 credit can make a real difference in the family budget! And knowing you don't have to stress about the earned income requirement anymore should help you sleep better. This community has been such a lifesaver for getting real answers to these confusing tax questions.

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