If I gift my unmarried partner $5k via Venmo and $15k through our shared bank account, does the $20k total count as a taxable gift?

The annual gift tax exclusion for 2025 is $18,000 per recipient, so anything over that amount to a single person in one calendar year needs to be reported to the IRS on Form 709 (Gift Tax Return). The method of transfer doesn't change whether it's a gift or not - Venmo, joint accounts, cash, etc. all count the same. What matters is the value being transferred from you to another person. For joint accounts, it gets a bit tricky. Money you put into a joint account isn't automatically considered a gift. It becomes a gift when your partner withdraws it for her own use (and it's clear the money originally came from you). So if you put $17,500 in your joint account but she doesn't withdraw it this year, it's not a gift yet. But once she takes it out, it becomes a gift at that point. Combined with the $6,700 Venmo transfer, if she withdraws all $17,500 in the same calendar year, you'd exceed the $18,000 annual exclusion by about $6,200. Don't panic though - exceeding the exclusion doesn't mean you'll owe tax. It just means you need to file Form 709 to report it. This would simply reduce your lifetime gift and estate tax exemption (which is over $13 million for 2025).

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Dude I went through this exact thing last year! The whole gift tax thing is super overblown for most people. Unless you're giving away millions, it's mostly just paperwork. Here's what my CPA told me about our joint account: Just document when YOUR money goes in and when SHE takes it out for her own stuff like the student loans. That timing is key - if she takes out $17k in December 2025 but you put in $10k in January 2025 and $7k in February 2025, it all counts for the 2025 tax year. My suggestion would be to either: 1. Keep it under $18k total for the calendar year (easy peasy, no paperwork) 2. If you go over, just file the stupid form. It's annoying but not the end of the world

has anyone actually gotten in trouble for not reporting gifts over the annual limit? asking for a friend... 😅

Sorry to jump in late but I think everyone is overcomplicating this. If this is a legit partnership where you're both contributing to expenses, then you can argue some of that money is for household expenses which isn't a gift. My partner and I have had a joint account for 7 years and our accountant said contributions for shared housing costs, utilities, groceries, etc. aren't gifts - they're just regular living expenses.

Just to add some clarity on the timing aspect - you mentioned the $6,700 Venmo transfer was in March, but you said it was $5k in your title. Which amount is correct? The exact amounts matter since you're close to the $18,000 annual exclusion limit. If it was actually $6,700 in March, then adding $17,500 from the joint account withdrawal would put you at $24,200 total - that's $6,200 over the annual limit that would need to be reported on Form 709. But if it was really $5,000 as mentioned in your title, then $5,000 + $17,500 = $22,500, which means $4,500 over the limit to report. Either way, you'd need to file the gift tax return, but the exact overage amount affects your lifetime exemption calculation. Just want to make sure you have the right numbers when you're planning this out!

Hey, I just want to chime in as someone who's been through a similar situation. The gift tax rules can definitely be confusing, especially when you're dealing with joint accounts and multiple transfer methods. From what I understand based on my own experience, the key things to remember are: 1. The $18,000 annual exclusion applies regardless of how you transfer the money (Venmo, bank transfer, cash, etc.) 2. For joint accounts, the gift occurs when your partner withdraws the money for her personal use, not when you deposit it 3. You'll need to be clear about the exact amounts - there's a discrepancy between your title ($5k) and post content ($6,700) for the Venmo transfer If you do exceed the $18,000 limit, don't stress too much. Filing Form 709 is mostly just paperwork - you likely won't owe any actual tax because of the lifetime exemption amount (over $13 million). The form just reduces your lifetime exemption by whatever you gift over the annual limit. My advice would be to document everything clearly - dates, amounts, purposes - especially for the joint account transfers. This will make things much easier if you need to file the gift tax return or if questions come up later. Good luck helping your girlfriend with those student loans! It's really sweet that you're in a position to help her out financially.