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IRS Fax Number for SS4 Form Submission Always Busy - Can't Get Through

Hey tax people, I'm losing my mind here. I've been trying to fax my SS4 form to the IRS for almost a week now (Cincinnati OH office since I'm setting up a single-member LLC in the US), and I can't get through! The fax number that's supposed to work is constantly busy or just not connecting. I've tried at different times of day, I've tried from different fax machines, I've even had a friend try from their office. Nothing is working! This has never happened before - I had to send some other forms last year and it went through on the first try. Is anyone else having this problem? Has the IRS changed their fax numbers recently? I'm getting really worried because I need my EIN to move forward with several other business setup steps. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

I work with business formations and have seen this issue come up a lot lately. The IRS fax lines for SS4 submissions are completely overwhelmed right now, especially at the Cincinnati processing center. This happens every year around this time, but it's particularly bad in 2025. You have a few options: First, you can try sending your SS4 very early in the morning (like 5-6am Eastern) when fewer people are trying. Second, you can apply online if you have a valid SSN, ITIN, or EIN already. The online application gives you your EIN immediately. Third, you can call the Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933, but be prepared for a long wait. Keep in mind that the Cincinnati fax number gets thousands of submissions daily, so persistent attempts are sometimes necessary. Don't give up!

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Thanks for this info. For the online application, does it work for foreign nationals forming a US company? I have a similar issue but I don't have an SSN or ITIN yet.

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The online application unfortunately doesn't work for foreign nationals without an SSN or ITIN. In your situation, faxing the SS4 is typically the best option despite the frustration. If you've been trying without success for over a week, you might consider using a third-party service that specializes in business formations. They often have dedicated channels for IRS communications and can sometimes get through when individuals cannot.

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I went through this exact nightmare last month when setting up my consulting LLC. After days of failed fax attempts, I found this AI tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that helped me figure out what was going on. I uploaded my SS4 form and it analyzed everything, suggesting I was using an outdated fax number from an old IRS publication. The tool not only provided the correct, updated fax number but also gave me specific times when the IRS fax lines are least congested based on their data analysis. Got my form through on the second attempt after that! It even showed me a few minor errors on my SS4 that might have caused processing delays.

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How exactly does this work? Does it just check your forms or does it actually submit them for you? I'm confused about what an AI tool can do with IRS forms.

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Sounds too good to be true honestly. Are you sure they're not just taking your sensitive business info? I'm always skeptical of these services claiming to have "special insights" into IRS operations.

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It doesn't submit forms for you - it just analyzes them for errors and provides updated information. You upload your completed forms and it scans them for common mistakes, missing fields, or outdated information. In my case, it flagged that I was using an outdated fax number from 2023 IRS instructions. Regarding security concerns, they use bank-level encryption and don't store your actual form data after analysis. I was skeptical too, but after researching their privacy policy and seeing they were featured in some tax publications, I felt comfortable trying it. Their insights about IRS operations come from aggregated submission data, not any special relationship with the IRS.

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I need to eat my words about taxr.ai from my comment above. After struggling for another two days with busy fax lines, I decided to give it a shot. The tool immediately flagged that I was using the wrong fax number for my specific entity type and location. It also pointed out that I'd made a classification error on Line 8a that would have likely resulted in my application being rejected or delayed. Fixed both issues, sent the fax during their recommended "low traffic" time window (4:30-5:30am ET), and it went through! Got my EIN letter about a week later. This service literally saved me weeks of frustration.

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Wait, the IRS will give you an EIN over the phone? I thought they required faxed or mailed SS4 forms no matter what. How does this service even work?

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This sounds like a scam. The IRS doesn't have any "special lines" that companies can access. You probably just got lucky with call timing or talked to someone who broke protocol.

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Yes, the IRS can issue EINs over the phone in many cases! When you call the Business & Specialty Tax Line, they can take your SS4 information verbally and issue an EIN immediately. This is official policy, not breaking protocol. Claimyr isn't accessing any "special lines" - they're using technology to navigate the IRS phone tree and wait on hold for you. When an agent finally answers, you get a call back to connect with that agent. It's completely legitimate and saves you from spending hours on hold. The service works with many government agencies, not just the IRS, and they've been featured in business publications.

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I have to publicly admit I was wrong about Claimyr in my previous comment. After another week of failed fax attempts for my LLC's EIN, I decided to try the service out of desperation. The process was exactly as described - I entered my number on their website, they called me back when they reached an IRS agent, and I got my EIN over the phone in about 20 minutes total. The IRS agent was super helpful once I actually got to speak with one! Saved me from what was becoming a massive headache and potential business delays. Sometimes skepticism gets in the way of finding good solutions.

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Another option nobody's mentioned is to mail your SS4 instead of faxing. Yes, it takes longer (about 4-5 weeks currently), but it's guaranteed to get there. The mailing address for the Cincinnati office is: Internal Revenue Service Attn: EIN Operation Cincinnati, OH 45999 If you're not in a rush, this is the most reliable method. I've never had a mailed SS4 get lost or rejected.

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Does anyone know if there's a way to confirm they received your mailed form? I'm worried about it getting lost in the shuffle with no way to follow up.

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Unfortunately, there's no tracking or confirmation system for mailed SS4 forms. The IRS doesn't send acknowledgments of receipt. Your only indication that they received it will be when you get your EIN assignment letter in the mail. This is why many people prefer faxing or calling - there's more immediate confirmation. If you do mail it, I recommend sending it with delivery confirmation through USPS, so at least you know it arrived at the facility.

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Sharing a tip that worked for me: If you keep getting a busy signal when faxing the Cincinnati office, try the Ogden, UT fax number instead (855-641-6935). I know technically you're supposed to use the office assigned to your region, but in a pinch, any processing center can handle your SS4. Got my EIN within 10 business days even though I'm in the Cincinnati jurisdiction. The IRS just wants the form - they don't actually care which fax machine receives it.

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This might not be good advice. My accountant told me that using the wrong processing center can delay your application by weeks because they have to internally transfer it to the correct office.

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I've been dealing with this exact same issue for my new consulting business! After reading through all these suggestions, I ended up trying the early morning fax approach that Kaiya mentioned. Set my alarm for 5 AM Eastern and tried faxing at 5:15 AM - it went through on the first try! For anyone still struggling, here's what I learned: The Cincinnati fax lines are absolutely swamped between 8 AM and 5 PM, but there's a sweet spot between 5-7 AM Eastern when most people aren't trying yet. Also, make sure you're using the current fax number (855-641-6935 for Cincinnati) - apparently some of the numbers floating around online are outdated. One more tip: if your fax keeps timing out, try reducing the transmission speed on your fax machine. Some of the older IRS fax equipment can't handle high-speed transmissions during peak times. Saved me a lot of frustration once I figured that out!

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Thank you so much for sharing the early morning timing tip! I'm new to this whole business formation process and had no idea that fax timing could make such a difference. I've been trying to send my SS4 during regular business hours thinking that would be better, but clearly I had it backwards. Quick question - when you say "reduce the transmission speed," how do you actually do that on a fax machine? I'm using a pretty standard office fax machine and I'm not sure where that setting would be. Is it usually in a menu somewhere or is it something you have to configure when dialing? Also, just to confirm - you used 855-641-6935 for Cincinnati and it worked? I want to make sure I have the right number since there seem to be some outdated ones floating around as you mentioned.

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Hey Nolan! Happy to help a fellow newcomer navigate this process. For the transmission speed setting, it's usually found in your fax machine's setup or configuration menu - look for something like "transmission speed," "baud rate," or "compatibility mode." Most machines default to 14.4k or 33.6k, but try dropping it down to 9600 or even 4800 for better compatibility with older IRS equipment. And yes, I can confirm 855-641-6935 worked for Cincinnati! That's the number I used at 5:15 AM and it went through immediately. Just make sure you have all your SS4 info filled out completely before you try - you don't want to waste that perfect early morning window on a rejected form due to missing information. One other thing I forgot to mention - if you're faxing from a multifunction printer/fax combo, sometimes switching to "fine" resolution instead of "standard" can help too. The IRS processing equipment seems to handle cleaner, slower transmissions better during busy periods. Good luck with your business formation! The EIN is definitely one of the more frustrating steps, but once you get through it, the rest gets much easier.

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I'm going through this exact same frustration right now! I've been trying to get my SS4 through to the IRS for my new LLC for over a week. The busy signals are absolutely maddening - I had no idea this was such a widespread issue. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful. I'm definitely going to try the early morning approach that several people mentioned. Setting my alarm for 5 AM tomorrow to give it a shot before the lines get overwhelmed. One question for those who've successfully gotten through - did you get any kind of confirmation when your fax actually went through? I'm worried I might think it failed when it actually succeeded, or vice versa. My fax machine just shows "transmission error" every time I try during business hours. Also really appreciate everyone sharing the updated fax numbers. I was definitely using an old number I found on some outdated IRS publication. This community has been more helpful than any official IRS guidance I've found!

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Hey Mateo! I just went through this same nightmare last month, so I totally feel your pain. When your fax actually goes through successfully, you should get a transmission report printed out showing "OK" or "Completed" status along with the number of pages sent and the time. If you're just getting "transmission error," that definitely means it's not going through. The early morning strategy really does work - I tried at 5:30 AM Eastern and got through on my second attempt. Make sure you have plenty of paper in your fax machine for the confirmation report, and don't hang up until you see that successful transmission printout. One more tip that helped me: if you have access to an online fax service like eFax or HelloFax, sometimes those work better than physical fax machines during peak congestion times. They seem to retry automatically if the line is busy. Worth trying if the early morning attempt doesn't work out for you. Good luck tomorrow morning! You're so close to getting this resolved.

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I'm dealing with this exact same issue right now! Been trying to fax my SS4 to Cincinnati for my new single-member LLC for almost two weeks with no success. The constant busy signals are driving me crazy. After reading through all these helpful suggestions, I'm planning to try the early morning approach (5-6 AM Eastern) that several people have had success with. Really appreciate everyone sharing the updated fax numbers too - I was definitely using an outdated one from 2023. For anyone else still struggling with this, I wanted to add that I called the IRS general help line and they confirmed that fax volume is at record highs right now due to the increase in business formations. The representative suggested that if faxing continues to fail, I can try calling the Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933 during their least busy hours (early morning or late afternoon) to potentially get my EIN over the phone. Has anyone else had luck with getting an EIN issued over the phone recently? I'm wondering if that might be faster than continuing to battle the fax lines.

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I actually got my EIN over the phone just last week! Called the Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933 around 7 AM Eastern and got through after about 45 minutes on hold. The IRS agent was able to take all my SS4 information verbally and issued my EIN immediately - no fax needed! The key is calling early in the morning when call volume is lower. The agent told me they can absolutely issue EINs over the phone for most business types, including single-member LLCs. You just need to have all your SS4 information ready to provide verbally. Much faster than dealing with the fax nightmare! I'd definitely recommend trying this route if the early morning fax attempts don't work out for you.

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I'm going through the exact same frustration right now! Just started my single-member LLC and have been trying to get my SS4 through for over a week. The Cincinnati fax line has been nothing but busy signals during business hours. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and solutions here. I had no idea this was such a widespread issue or that timing could make such a huge difference. I'm definitely going to try the early morning fax approach (5-6 AM Eastern) that multiple people have had success with. One thing I wanted to add for other newcomers like myself - make sure you're using the most current fax number. I was using 855-215-1627 from an old PDF I downloaded, but it sounds like 855-641-6935 is the current Cincinnati number based on recent success stories here. Also planning to have the phone option as a backup. Calling 800-829-4933 early in the morning seems like it might actually be faster than continuing to battle the fax lines. Has anyone had experience with how long the EIN letter takes to arrive after getting it issued over the phone? Thanks again to everyone who's shared their experiences - this community has been way more helpful than any official IRS guidance I've found!

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Hey Mikayla! I'm in the exact same boat as you - new LLC owner dealing with this fax nightmare. I've been lurking in this thread for a few days and finally decided to create an account because everyone's advice has been so helpful. Just wanted to confirm that 855-641-6935 is indeed the correct current Cincinnati fax number - I called the IRS directly yesterday to verify after seeing conflicting numbers posted online. The representative confirmed that's their active fax line for SS4 submissions. Regarding your question about EIN letters after phone issuance - I haven't done it personally yet, but my business mentor told me it typically takes 7-14 business days to receive the official letter in the mail. However, you get your EIN number immediately during the call, so you can start using it right away for banking and other business setup needs. I'm planning to try the early morning fax approach first tomorrow at 5 AM, but it's reassuring to know the phone option exists as a solid backup. Thanks to everyone in this thread for sharing their real experiences - it's made this whole process feel way less overwhelming!

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I'm dealing with this exact same issue right now! Been trying to fax my SS4 to the IRS for my new single-member LLC for about 10 days with zero success. The constant busy signals have been incredibly frustrating, and I was starting to think something was wrong with my fax machine. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been such a relief - knowing this is a widespread problem and not just me doing something wrong. The early morning timing strategy (5-6 AM Eastern) that multiple people have mentioned sounds like the way to go. I had no idea that timing could make such a huge difference with IRS fax lines. I'm also really grateful for the updated fax number confirmations. I was definitely using an outdated number from some old IRS publication I found online. Will definitely be trying 855-641-6935 for Cincinnati tomorrow morning. The phone option at 800-829-4933 also sounds promising as a backup plan. It's encouraging to hear that several people have successfully gotten their EINs issued over the phone recently. I didn't even know that was possible! Thanks to everyone who's shared their real-world experiences here. This community has been more helpful than any official IRS guidance I could find. Hopefully I'll have a success story to share soon!

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Hey Ava! I just created an account specifically to respond to this thread because I'm going through the exact same situation. Your frustration is completely understandable - I've been battling the Cincinnati fax line for my LLC's EIN for over a week too, and the constant busy signals were making me question everything! After reading through all these helpful experiences, I'm convinced the early morning strategy is the way to go. It seems like 5-6 AM Eastern is really the sweet spot before the lines get overwhelmed. I'm setting my alarm for 4:45 AM tomorrow to try at 5 AM sharp with that 855-641-6935 number everyone's confirmed works. What really gives me hope is seeing how many people in this thread initially struggled just like us but then found success with these timing and phone strategies. The fact that multiple people have gotten through using the same approaches shows these aren't just lucky one-offs. I'm also preparing the phone backup plan with 800-829-4933 in case the fax doesn't work. Having both options ready makes me feel much more confident about finally getting this resolved. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to know we're all in this together! Hopefully we'll both have success stories to share very soon.

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I'm going through this exact same nightmare right now! Been trying to fax my SS4 for my new LLC to Cincinnati for almost 2 weeks straight - the busy signals are absolutely maddening. I was starting to think I was doing something fundamentally wrong until I found this thread. This community has been incredibly helpful! The early morning strategy (5-6 AM Eastern) that so many of you have mentioned is definitely my next move. I had no clue that timing made such a difference with IRS fax lines. Also really appreciate the confirmation on the current Cincinnati fax number - I was using 855-215-1627 from some outdated form I downloaded. One question for those who've successfully gotten through via phone at 800-829-4933 - do you need to have your SS4 form completely filled out beforehand, or can the agent help you through the questions? I want to make sure I'm fully prepared before attempting the call. Setting my alarm for 4:45 AM tomorrow to try both the fax and phone approaches. Really hoping to finally get this resolved! Thanks to everyone for sharing their real experiences - you've all been lifesavers.

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Hey Joshua! I just went through this exact process last month, so I totally understand your frustration. For the phone call at 800-829-4933, you definitely want to have your SS4 form completely filled out beforehand. The IRS agent will ask you all the same questions that are on the form, so having it ready makes the process much smoother and faster. Make sure you have all the basic info ready: your legal name, business name (if different), business address, responsible party information, reason for applying, business type/classification, etc. The agent basically walks through the SS4 form with you over the phone, but they move pretty quickly so being prepared is key. Also, just a heads up - when you call that early, you might get an automated message saying they're closed, but if you wait a few minutes past 7 AM Eastern, you should be able to get in the queue. The hold times are definitely shorter in the early morning compared to midday. Good luck tomorrow morning! Between the early fax attempt and having the phone backup ready, I'm confident you'll finally get this resolved. Let us know how it goes!

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I'm dealing with this exact same issue! Been trying to fax my SS4 form for my new consulting LLC to the Cincinnati office for over a week now with nothing but busy signals. It's incredibly frustrating when you're trying to move forward with business setup and this one step becomes such a roadblock. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been so helpful - I had no idea this was such a widespread problem or that the IRS fax lines get this overwhelmed during certain times. The early morning strategy (5-6 AM Eastern) that multiple people have mentioned definitely seems like the way to go. I was trying during regular business hours thinking that would be better, but clearly I had it backwards! Also really appreciate the confirmation on the current Cincinnati fax number being 855-641-6935. I was using an old number I found on some IRS publication from last year, which explains why I wasn't even getting busy signals - just connection failures. Planning to set my alarm for 5 AM tomorrow and give both the fax and phone approaches a try. It's reassuring to see so many success stories here after people switched to these strategies. Thanks to everyone for sharing your real experiences - this community has been more helpful than any official IRS guidance I could find online!

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Hey Aurora! I'm completely new to this whole business formation process, but I've been following this thread closely because I'm about to start my own LLC and want to be prepared for the EIN application. Your experience sounds exactly like what I'm dreading - I had no idea the IRS fax lines could be this problematic! It's actually really helpful to read everyone's struggles and solutions before I get to that step myself. Just wanted to say thanks for mentioning the outdated fax number issue. I probably would have made the same mistake using whatever number I found first online. It's crazy how much difference having the right current information makes. Hope your early morning attempt tomorrow works out! I'll be watching this thread to see how it goes since I'll probably be trying the same approach in a few weeks. Good luck!

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I'm going through this exact same frustration right now! Just started my single-member LLC and have been trying to get my SS4 through to Cincinnati for about 8 days straight. The constant busy signals were making me think I was doing something wrong with my fax machine. This thread has been incredibly enlightening - I had no idea this was such a widespread issue or that timing could make such a huge difference. The early morning strategy (5-6 AM Eastern) that so many of you have successfully used is definitely my plan for tomorrow. I was trying during normal business hours like 10 AM-2 PM thinking that would be optimal, but clearly I had it completely backwards! Also really grateful for everyone confirming the current Cincinnati fax number is 855-641-6935. I was using 855-215-1627 from some old IRS publication I downloaded, which explains why I wasn't even getting through to busy signals. The phone backup option at 800-829-4933 also sounds promising. It's encouraging to hear multiple people have gotten their EINs issued directly over the phone recently. I didn't realize that was even possible! Setting my alarm for 4:45 AM tomorrow to try both approaches. Thanks to everyone who's shared their real experiences here - this community has been far more helpful than any official IRS guidance I could find. Hopefully I'll have a success story to add soon!

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Hey Zara! I just joined this community after lurking here for a while because I'm dealing with the exact same SS4 fax nightmare. Your experience sounds identical to mine - I've been battling the Cincinnati fax line for my new LLC for over a week too, and those constant busy signals were driving me absolutely crazy! It's such a relief to find this thread and realize this is a widespread issue, not just me being incompetent with technology. The early morning timing strategy that everyone keeps mentioning (5-6 AM Eastern) seems to be the real game-changer here. Like you, I was trying during what I thought were "normal business hours" and getting nowhere. I'm also planning to set my alarm early tomorrow to try the 855-641-6935 number that multiple people have confirmed works. Having the phone backup at 800-829-4933 ready gives me confidence that one way or another, we'll finally get through this hurdle. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's encouraging to see I'm not alone in this struggle! Hopefully we'll both have success stories to celebrate very soon. Good luck with your early morning attempt tomorrow!

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