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Rudy Cenizo

IRA Contribution Rules After Taking RMD - Transferring Money Back Into IRA

So I'm in a bit of a situation with my IRA account and hoping someone can clarify the rules for me. I've already taken my Required Minimum Distribution for the year. I don't have any earned income currently. About a week ago, I transferred $675 out of my Traditional IRA (my statement shows it coded as "PARTIAL DISTR NORMAL"), and then 2 days later I transferred $675 back into that same IRA account (coded as "CASH CONTRIBUTION CURRENT YEAR" on my statement). Since I don't have any earned income this year, I'm worried about what's going to happen with that $675 I put back in. Will the IRS automatically treat this as a rollover? Or am I going to get hit with penalties for making an ineligible contribution since I don't have earned income to justify it? I'm trying to figure out if I need to take any action before tax season hits.

Natalie Khan

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This is actually a very important question with timing implications. What you've described is not automatically going to be treated as a rollover by the IRS. For a proper IRA-to-IRA rollover, you need to specifically designate it as such when you make the transaction. Since you took money out as a "partial distribution" and then deposited it back as a "contribution," the IRS will likely view these as two separate transactions: a taxable distribution followed by a contribution. Without earned income, you're not eligible to make contributions to a Traditional IRA, so this $675 would be considered an excess contribution subject to a 6% penalty tax each year until it's removed. You have a potential solution though: If it's been less than 60 days since you took the distribution, you can contact your IRA custodian and ask them to recharacterize the "contribution" as a "rollover" of the previous distribution. This needs to be clearly documented.

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Daryl Bright

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Wait, so even if it's the exact same amount of money going back into the same account, the IRS won't automatically connect those dots? Do they really need the paperwork to explicitly say "rollover" instead of "contribution"? What if it's been more than 60 days already?

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Natalie Khan

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The IRS indeed doesn't automatically connect those dots - the transaction codes matter significantly, and your custodian reports these transactions separately to the IRS. The classification as "contribution" versus "rollover" makes all the difference in how it's treated. If it's been more than 60 days since the distribution, unfortunately the rollover option is no longer available. In that case, you should contact your custodian about removing the excess contribution (and any earnings on it) before filing your taxes. If removed before the tax filing deadline including extensions, you can avoid the 6% penalty, though any earnings would be taxable for the year the contribution was made.

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That sounds helpful, but does it work with all types of retirement accounts? I have a mix of Traditional IRA, Roth IRA, and an old 401k that I'm trying to figure out what to do with. Would this tool help with identifying potential issues across different account types?

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I'm a bit skeptical about using third-party tools for tax issues. Couldn't you just call your IRA custodian directly and ask them to recode it? Did you really need special software to figure this out?

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Sienna Gomez

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How does this actually work? Do they somehow put you at the front of the IRS phone queue? I've spent hours on hold with the IRS and usually get disconnected before speaking to anyone. Seems too good to be true.

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Tyrone Hill

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that you could also potentially fix this by returning the distribution under the "retirement plan contribution error" correction. If you withdraw the contributed amount (plus any earnings on that amount) before your tax filing deadline including extensions, you can avoid the 6% excess contribution penalty. Call your IRA provider and specifically ask about removing an "excess contribution" - they should have a form for this. You'll need to pay income tax on any earnings that accumulated on the $675 while it was in the account during this correction process, but it's better than ongoing penalties.

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Rudy Cenizo

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Would this still work even though I already took my RMD for the year? I'm worried about getting hit with another distribution on top of that and increasing my taxable income. Also, would I need to specify that the excess contribution was due to having no earned income rather than exceeding the contribution limit?

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Tyrone Hill

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Yes, this would still work even though you've already taken your RMD. The excess contribution removal is a separate process from your RMD requirements. You would be returning the specific contribution that was ineligible, which doesn't affect your RMD calculations. When requesting the removal, you should specifically state that you're removing an excess contribution due to having no earned income. Most IRA custodians have a form for excess contribution removals that allows you to indicate the reason. This specificity helps ensure proper coding on the 1099-R you'll receive for the correction, which will help prevent confusion when you file your taxes.

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Toot-n-Mighty

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Has anyone considered that this might qualify as a 60-day indirect rollover? As long as you put the same amount back into the same or different IRA within 60 days, it should count as a rollover, not a contribution. The key is that you only get one indirect rollover per 12-month period across all your IRAs.

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Lena Kowalski

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That's true about the once-per-year limitation, but the coding is still important. If the custodian coded it as a "contribution" rather than a "rollover deposit," the IRS computers will flag it since contributions require earned income. The custodian will issue a Form 5498 showing a contribution, not a rollover.

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Diego Rojas

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This is exactly the kind of situation where getting proper documentation is crucial. I went through something similar last year and learned the hard way that the IRS doesn't automatically treat same-amount transactions as rollovers just because they seem logical to us. The most important thing is to act quickly if you're still within the 60-day window. Contact your IRA custodian immediately and request that they recode the transaction from a "contribution" to a "rollover." You'll need this in writing - don't just rely on a phone conversation. Get a letter or amended statement showing the correct coding. If you're past the 60-day mark, you'll need to remove the excess contribution as others have mentioned. The key is to be proactive about this before tax season. I waited too long and ended up paying the 6% penalty for a full year before getting it sorted out. The IRS computers are very literal about these transaction codes, so make sure your paperwork tells the right story.

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