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Miguel Ortiz

My federal tax withholding question on IRA distribution - what went wrong?

So I'm in a bit of a mess with my IRA and could use some advice. Earlier this year, I made a contribution to my Traditional IRA of $8,500 that I later realized I wasn't eligible to make. I decided to reverse it through a distribution within the same tax year to avoid any penalties or complications. The problem is that when I requested the distribution from my financial institution, I didn't specifically tell them it was a reversal of a contribution (sometimes called a "return of excess contributions"). I just requested a regular distribution. Now I've received the distribution, but they withheld 20% for federal taxes! I'm frustrated because if I had properly labeled it as a reversal of contribution, there wouldn't have been any withholding. Now I'm out that 20% until I file my taxes next year. Has anyone dealt with this before? Can I somehow get that withholding back before filing my 2025 taxes? Or am I stuck waiting until I file to get that money back? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

This is actually a fairly common mistake, so don't beat yourself up too much about it. When you take a distribution from a Traditional IRA, the financial institution is generally required to withhold 20% for federal taxes unless you specify otherwise or it falls under specific exemption categories. What happened here is that because you didn't identify the distribution as a "return of excess contribution," the financial institution processed it as a regular distribution, which triggers the automatic withholding. A proper return of excess contribution wouldn't have been subject to withholding. Unfortunately, you'll need to wait until you file your 2025 tax return to get that withholding back. The withheld amount will be credited against your total tax liability. When you file your taxes, you'll need to report this as a distribution on your tax return, but you should also document that it was actually a return of excess contributions so that you don't end up paying penalties.

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Thanks for the explanation! I have a similar situation but I'm confused - if it was processed as a regular distribution instead of a return of excess, doesn't that mean it would be taxable income? Would OP also have to pay the 10% early withdrawal penalty if they're under 59.5?

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For the first question about taxable income, you're right to be concerned, but there's a solution. When filing taxes, even though it was processed as a regular distribution, you can still report it correctly as a return of excess contribution on your tax forms. This ensures it won't be counted as taxable income despite how it was initially processed. Regarding the early withdrawal penalty, you're also correct that normally there would be a 10% penalty for those under 59.5. However, returns of excess contributions are specifically exempt from this penalty when handled properly on your tax return, even if the financial institution didn't code it correctly at the time of distribution. When you or the original poster file taxes, you'll need to make sure this is properly documented to avoid both taxation and penalties.

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I'm a bit skeptical. I tried using my regular tax software for a similar issue and it was a disaster. How does this handle IRA recharacterizations versus returns of excess? Those are treated totally differently for tax purposes.

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One important thing to note that hasn't been mentioned yet - the timing of your return of excess contribution matters a lot. If you withdraw excess contributions before your tax filing deadline (including extensions), you won't be taxed on the earnings from those contributions. But if you miss that deadline, you'll have to pay a 6% tax on the excess amount for each year it remains in your account. So even though your distribution wasn't coded properly, the fact that you took it within the same tax year is good!

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Does the timing issue apply differently for Roth vs Traditional IRAs? I have a similar situation with both types of accounts and I'm confused about which deadlines apply to each.

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The timing rules are actually the same for both Roth and Traditional IRAs. For both types, you need to withdraw excess contributions (and any earnings on those contributions) by your tax filing deadline including extensions (typically October 15th) to avoid the 6% excise tax penalty. The main difference is in how the earnings are treated. For Traditional IRAs, the earnings are generally taxable in the year you make the withdrawal. For Roth IRAs, the earnings are also taxable if you withdraw them, but they may additionally be subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty if you're under 59½ and don't qualify for an exception.

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Has anyone used Form 5329 for this type of situation? I'm wondering if I need to file that along with my tax return when dealing with the improperly coded distribution.

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Yes, you'll likely need Form 5329. I had a similar situation and had to use it to report the excess contribution and show that I had taken corrective action by removing it, even though it was incorrectly coded as a normal distribution. This helps avoid the 6% excise tax on excess contributions.

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