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How to effectively use AMT carry forward credits on my 2025 tax return

I exercised some ISO shares about 3 years ago and ended up paying Alternative Minimum Tax on them at that time. Now I've got a pretty substantial AMT credit that I'm carrying forward - around $115,000 for my 2024 return. My current situation is that I have regular income tax due of about $15,000 this year, and I don't owe any AMT for 2024. When I was working through my return using TaxSlayer, it did all the calculations and is only letting me use $7,500 of my AMT credit against my current tax bill. I'm really confused about this. Why can't I apply more of my AMT carry forward to cover my entire $15,000 tax bill? What exactly limits how much of my AMT carry forward credit I can use each year? I thought the whole point was to eventually get back what I overpaid, but at this rate it'll take forever to use up my credit.

Yara Sayegh

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The AMT credit can be tricky! Your question about why you can't use the full amount is a common one. The AMT credit can only offset the difference between your regular tax liability and your tentative minimum tax (TMT) for the current year. Even though you don't owe AMT this year, the tax software still calculates your tentative minimum tax. The maximum AMT credit you can claim is limited to the amount that your regular tax exceeds your TMT. So if your regular tax is $15,000 and your TMT is $7,500, you can only use $7,500 of your AMT credit carryforward this year. This is why the software is only allowing you to use $7,500 rather than the full $15,000 - there's still a calculated TMT amount that creates a ceiling for how much credit you can use in any given year.

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NebulaNova

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So wait, let me see if I understand this right. Even if I don't technically owe AMT this year, the system still calculates what my AMT would be (the TMT), and I can only use my carry forward credit for the amount ABOVE that TMT number? That seems really unfair! Is there any way to get around this or accelerate using my credits?

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Yara Sayegh

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Yes, you've got it exactly right. Even when you don't owe AMT for the current year, the tax code still requires calculating what your tentative minimum tax would be. You can only claim AMT credit for the amount your regular tax exceeds that TMT figure. Unfortunately, there's no way to "get around" this limitation - it's built into the tax code. The good news is that since the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, AMT affects far fewer taxpayers, so your regular tax is more likely to exceed your TMT by larger amounts in future years, allowing you to use more of your credit. Some tax planning strategies might help increase this difference, such as timing certain deductions or income, but you should consult with a tax professional for advice specific to your situation.

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After struggling with AMT credits for years, I finally found a solution that made understanding and maximizing my credits so much easier. I started using https://taxr.ai and it totally changed my experience. I uploaded my previous returns where I had paid AMT on ISOs and my current year's information, and it analyzed everything to show me exactly why I couldn't use more of my credit this year. What I really appreciated was that it ran through some what-if scenarios showing how different income or deduction choices might let me use more of my AMT credit in future years. It even highlighted that I had missed claiming some AMT credit in a previous year that I could recover by filing an amended return!

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Paolo Conti

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Does this service actually explain the calculations? My CPA just tells me "this is what the software says" but doesn't really understand the mechanics of why I can only use a portion of my AMT credit each year. I've got over $60k in AMT credits from exercising options at my startup and I'm getting impatient!

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Amina Diallo

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I'm skeptical about tax tools after getting burned by one that missed a huge deduction. How confident are you that it's calculating everything correctly? And can it help with planning for future years to maximize using up the AMT credits faster?

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The service actually does break down the calculation in detail, showing how your regular tax and tentative minimum tax create the ceiling for your credit usage. It displays the Form 8801 calculations step-by-step with explanations in plain English alongside the numbers. It was the first time I truly understood why I couldn't use more of my credit. For future planning, it's been incredibly helpful. It shows how changes to your income, deductions, and even investment decisions can impact the gap between your regular tax and TMT. I was able to see that by bunching certain deductions in alternating years, I could create a larger gap in some years to use more of my AMT credit. The scenario modeling helped me develop a multi-year strategy to use up my credits about 40% faster than my original trajectory.

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Paolo Conti

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Just wanted to give a quick update - I tried https://taxr.ai after seeing it recommended here and it was exactly what I needed! Uploaded my last 3 years of returns and this year's draft, and finally understood why I can only use a portion of my AMT credits each year. The visualization showing how my regular tax and tentative minimum tax interact was super helpful. I actually found that I could restructure some income from my consulting business to increase the gap between my regular tax and TMT next year, potentially allowing me to use up an additional $12K in credits! Also discovered I had completely missed claiming about $8,500 in AMT credits on my 2022 return that I'm now amending. Thanks for the recommendation!

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Oliver Schulz

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How does this even work? I thought it was impossible to reach the IRS. Does it just put you at the front of the hold queue somehow? I've literally given up trying to call them after waiting 3+ hours once.

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Amina Diallo

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This sounds too good to be true. The IRS doesn't offer "strategy" advice - they just answer questions about existing rules. I've talked to plenty of IRS agents and none of them will give advice on how to "accelerate" anything. Sounds like you're overpromising what this service can do.

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Oliver Schulz

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It doesn't put you at the front of the queue - that would be unfair. It works by handling the waiting for you. Their system calls the IRS and navigates through all the phone prompts, waits on hold (sometimes for hours), and then when an actual agent answers, it calls your phone and connects you directly. You skip the hold time but not the actual queue. I didn't mean to suggest they gave "tax planning advice" in the way a CPA would. What the agent did was clearly explain how the AMT credit limitation works mathematically and clarified which types of income and deductions affect the calculation. She explained how capital gains are treated differently in the regular tax versus AMT calculations, which helped me understand why timing certain transactions might impact how much credit I could use. She didn't tell me what to do, but answered my questions thoroughly enough that I could make informed decisions.

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Amina Diallo

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I need to eat some crow here. After being skeptical about Claimyr in my earlier comment, I decided to try it anyway since I had AMT credit questions that were driving me crazy. Within 20 minutes, I was speaking with an IRS tax law specialist who actually understood Alternative Minimum Tax. The specialist explained exactly why my software was limiting my AMT credit usage and walked me through the Form 8801 calculations line by line. While she obviously couldn't tell me how to "game the system," she did explain how different types of income and deductions affect both the regular tax and AMT calculations differently, which helped me understand why certain changes to my financial situation might naturally create more room to use my credits. Totally worth it for the peace of mind of having actual confirmation from the IRS instead of just trusting tax software calculations I didn't fully understand.

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Has anyone tried filing an amended return for a previous year where you didn't claim the full AMT credit available? My accountant says we should have claimed about $9,000 more in AMT credit on my 2023 return but he's not sure if it's worth the hassle of amending.

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Definitely file the amendment! I was in a similar situation last year - found out I could have used about $5k more in AMT credit. Filed Form 1040-X and got the refund about 4 months later. Just make sure your accountant includes Form 8801 with the calculations. You generally have 3 years from the original filing deadline to amend.

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Thank you for the advice! I was worried the amendment might somehow flag my return for extra scrutiny. Good to know you had a positive experience. I'll talk to my accountant about filing the 1040-X with the corrected Form 8801 right away. That $9,000 would definitely be worth the effort!

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Emma Wilson

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Quick question for those who understand AMT better than me - does anyone know if state tax payments (like estimated payments) affect the AMT credit limitation? I've been making quarterly state tax payments but just realized these are added back for AMT purposes and might be affecting how much of my AMT credit I can use.

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Yara Sayegh

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Yes, state tax payments absolutely affect the AMT credit limitation! State and local taxes (SALT) are deductible for regular tax purposes (up to the $10,000 limit) but are completely disallowed as deductions for AMT purposes. This creates a difference between your regular tax and AMT calculations. When you make state tax payments, your regular tax calculation includes the benefit of the deduction (up to the cap), but the AMT calculation doesn't. This actually increases the gap between your regular tax and tentative minimum tax, potentially allowing you to use MORE of your AMT credit carryforward. This is one reason why timing of state tax payments can be a strategic consideration for those with AMT credits.

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PixelPrincess

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I've been dealing with a similar AMT credit situation and wanted to share something that might help others here. After reading through all these responses, I realized I had been making a common mistake in my understanding. I always thought the AMT credit was supposed to be a dollar-for-dollar refund of what I overpaid, but the reality is much more nuanced. The credit can only be used to reduce your tax liability down to your tentative minimum tax level - never below it. This means in years where your regular tax and TMT are close together, you'll only be able to use a small portion of your credit. What's been helpful for me is tracking this over multiple years and seeing the pattern. In higher income years where I have more regular tax liability relative to my TMT, I can use much more of the credit. It's frustrating that it takes so long, but at least understanding the mechanics helps me plan better. One thing I've learned is that certain life changes - like moving to a state with higher income taxes, having years with capital gains, or changes in deduction patterns - can actually create more opportunities to use the credit faster than expected.

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This is such a helpful perspective! I'm relatively new to dealing with AMT credits (just got hit with it for the first time last year after exercising stock options), and your explanation really clarifies something that's been confusing me. I was also under the impression that the AMT credit would eventually give me back everything I "overpaid," but understanding that it can only reduce my tax down to the TMT level makes the math make so much more sense. It's frustrating that it's not a simple refund, but at least now I know what to expect. Your point about life changes creating more opportunities to use the credit is interesting. I'm actually considering a job change that would involve moving from Texas to California - I wonder if the higher state income taxes there might actually help me use more of my AMT credit each year since SALT deductions create a bigger gap between regular tax and AMT calculations?

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I've been through this exact same frustration with AMT credits from ISO exercises! One thing that really helped me understand the limitation better was learning that the AMT credit carryforward isn't just about getting back what you "overpaid" - it's specifically designed to prevent double taxation over time, but only when your regular tax system would otherwise tax you more heavily than the AMT system would. The key insight that changed my perspective was realizing that in years when your tentative minimum tax is close to your regular tax, you're essentially in a situation where both tax systems are treating you fairly similarly, so there's less "double taxation" to correct for. The credit becomes most valuable in years when there's a significant gap between the two calculations. For practical planning, I've found it helpful to think about multi-year strategies. Things like bunching charitable deductions in alternating years, timing capital gains realization, or even considering Roth conversions in strategic years can all affect the regular tax vs. TMT gap. It's also worth noting that as you get further away from the ISO exercise date, your income patterns might naturally change in ways that create better opportunities to use the credits. The waiting game is definitely frustrating, but understanding the underlying logic has helped me be more patient and strategic about it.

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Millie Long

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This is exactly the kind of explanation I needed to hear! I've been so focused on the frustration of not being able to use my full AMT credit that I wasn't thinking about the bigger picture of what the credit is actually designed to do. Your point about it being a protection against double taxation rather than a simple refund really reframes the whole situation. When you put it that way, it makes sense that the credit would only be available when there's actually a meaningful difference between how the two tax systems are treating you. I'm curious about your mention of Roth conversions as a strategic tool - I hadn't considered that before. How do conversions affect the regular tax vs TMT calculation? I have some traditional IRA money that I've been thinking about converting anyway, so if the timing could help me use more of my AMT credit, that would be a nice bonus. The multi-year planning approach you're describing sounds like exactly what I need to be thinking about instead of just looking at each year in isolation. Do you work with a tax professional who specializes in this kind of strategic planning, or have you been figuring it out on your own?

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