How to determine a real salary for a business owner (LLC) from tax returns?
I'm trying to figure out how to determine an LLC business owner's actual income from their provided documents. This rental applicant has owned their business for about 6 years, and claims the business has revenue of around $229K with her salary being approximately $101K after expenses. She gave me her tax returns, an HR Block profit and loss report, and her bank statements, but I'm confused because the numbers don't match up. Her Schedule C shows: - Gross revenue: $203,000 - Total expenses: $159,000 - Tentative profit: $44,000 - Expense for business use of home: $675 - Net profit or loss: $43,325 But then the HR Block Profit & Loss shows: - Profit: $239,000 - Operating expenses: $127,500 - Net profit: $111,500 Can someone explain why these numbers are so different? How am I supposed to figure out her actual take-home pay after everything? I've never dealt with an LLC business owner as a rental applicant before and want to make sure I'm evaluating her income correctly.
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Mohammed Khan
The difference you're seeing is pretty common with small business owners. Schedule C is what she actually filed with the IRS for tax purposes, while the Profit & Loss statement might be her internal bookkeeping that doesn't necessarily match what was filed for taxes. For rental qualification purposes, you should use the Schedule C figures since that's what she's officially reporting to the government. The "Net profit or loss" line of $43,325 is her taxable business income. But that doesn't mean it's all she has available for rent. Business owners often maximize deductions to reduce taxable income, which means their "paper income" looks lower than what they actually have available to spend. Look at her bank statements to see if there's a regular "draw" or transfer to her personal account. This will show what she's actually taking out of the business for personal use. Also check if she's paying herself through payroll (less common with single-member LLCs but possible).
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Ella Russell
•Thanks for the explanation! I'm still a bit confused though... if the Schedule C shows $43,325 but she claims her salary is around $101K, is she potentially lying about her income? Or is there another form I should be looking at besides Schedule C to find her actual income?
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Mohammed Khan
•You're welcome! She's not necessarily lying. The $43,325 is just her taxable business income. Some business owners pay themselves a salary through payroll (which would show up on a W-2, not the Schedule C), while others take regular "draws" from the business that don't show up as "salary" but are still income they use for living expenses. Ask if she has any W-2s in addition to the Schedule C. Also, many business owners keep money in the business and only withdraw what they need personally, so their "lifestyle income" may be different from the business's taxable profit. The bank statements showing regular transfers to her personal account will be your best indicator of what she actually has available for rent payments.
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Gavin King
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Nathan Kim
•Does it work with all types of business documentation? My last applicant gave me a pile of stuff that made zero sense including K-1 forms and something about distributions vs draws. Would this handle all that?
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Eleanor Foster
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Lucas Turner
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Kai Rivera
•How exactly does this work? Do they just call the IRS for you? I could do that myself, no?
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Eleanor Foster
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Eleanor Foster
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Anna Stewart
Don't forget to check if the LLC is a pass-through entity. If it's a single-member LLC, it's likely reported on Schedule C (which you've got), but if it's a multi-member LLC it might be reported on different forms. Also look for Form 1125-E which would show compensation of officers if they're taking a salary from the business. Some LLC owners deliberately keep their taxable income low through legitimate business deductions, but have plenty of cash flow to cover rent.
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Ella Russell
•She did mention it's just her in the business. Where would I find Form 1125-E? Is that part of the standard tax return package?
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Anna Stewart
•If it's just her in the business, then she's probably operating as a single-member LLC which is treated as a sole proprietorship for tax purposes. In that case, Schedule C is where all her business income and expenses would be reported, and you wouldn't see Form 1125-E. The Schedule C net profit ($43,325 in your case) would flow directly to her personal 1040 form and be subject to both income tax and self-employment tax. For rental qualification purposes, many landlords add back certain non-cash expenses like depreciation to get a better picture of actual cash flow. You might want to look at her personal bank statements for the past 6-12 months to see what she's actually depositing/withdrawing regularly.
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Layla Sanders
Have you considered requesting her personal tax return (Form 1040) along with the Schedule C? The Schedule C only shows the business profit/loss, but doesn't include any other income she might have. Maybe she has multiple income sources?
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Morgan Washington
•This is good advice. I've had applicants with multiple Schedule Cs for different businesses, plus investment income, etc. The full 1040 gives you the complete picture.
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