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Zainab Ali

Do I need to issue a W9/1099 for rental payments to my LLC landlord?

So I've set up my LLC for the first time this year, but I'm realizing I might have messed up with my rental situation. When I signed my lease last year, it was just me as an individual (since my LLC wasn't formed yet) along with three other people on the lease. Here's where it gets confusing - we make our monthly rent checks out to a name that doesn't match any of the individuals listed on the lease agreement. I'm guessing it's some property management company or maybe another LLC? Now that I'm running my own business through my LLC, I'm wondering if I need to issue a W9 and eventually a 1099 to whoever is receiving our rent payments? I'm completely new to all this tax documentation stuff and don't want to get in trouble with the IRS. Do business owners have to issue 1099s for their personal rent, or only for business expenses? And how do I even request a W9 from them when I'm not sure who "them" actually is?

Connor Murphy

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You only need to issue a 1099 for rent if the property is used for your business. If this is your personal residence, you don't need to worry about it. If you're using part of your home as a business location, you'd only need to issue a 1099 if you pay more than $600 in rent annually that's attributable to the business portion. For example, if 25% of your home is used exclusively for business and your annual rent is $20,000, then $5,000 would be considered a business expense. In that case, yes, you'd need to get a W9 from your landlord and issue a 1099-MISC (or 1099-NEC depending on your specific situation). The real challenge you have is figuring out who legally receives your payments. Check your lease agreement carefully - there should be payment instructions that indicate the legal entity. You may need to contact one of the individuals on the lease and ask for clarification.

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Zainab Ali

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Thanks for the explanation! About 30% of my apartment is exclusively used for my business. My total annual rent is about $24,000, so that means I'd need to issue a 1099 for about $7,200, right? The lease only has individuals' names and the checks go to "Pine Valley Properties" which isn't mentioned anywhere in the lease. Should I just ask one of the individuals listed?

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Connor Murphy

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Yes, if 30% of your apartment is exclusively used for business and your annual rent is $24,000, then approximately $7,200 would be the business portion that requires a 1099. That's well over the $600 threshold, so you definitely need to get this sorted out. I would recommend asking one of the individuals listed on the lease about Pine Valley Properties. It's likely a property management company or possibly an LLC owned by one of the landlords. Request a W9 from them explaining that you need it for your business tax filing. Most landlords are familiar with this requirement and should provide it without issue.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're operating as an LLC, make sure you understand how you're being taxed. By default, a single-member LLC is treated as a disregarded entity for tax purposes, meaning you'll report business income and expenses on Schedule C of your personal return. In this case, you would still need to issue a 1099 for the business portion of rent if it's over $600. But if you've elected to be taxed as an S-Corp or C-Corp, the requirements are a bit different. Also, don't forget that starting in 2022, payment apps like Venmo and PayPal are issuing 1099-Ks for business transactions over $600, so if you're paying rent that way, it might already be reported.

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Zainab Ali

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I'm operating as a single-member LLC and being taxed as a disregarded entity. I've been paying by check each month. Does this mean I need to report the business portion of the rent on my Schedule C, AND issue a 1099 to the landlord? Seems like double reporting?

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You report the business portion of the rent as an expense on your Schedule C, which reduces your taxable business income. This is separate from issuing a 1099 to your landlord, which is an information reporting requirement that tells the IRS how much you paid them. They're actually two separate things serving different purposes. The Schedule C expense reduces your tax liability, while the 1099 ensures your landlord properly reports the income they received from you. It's not double reporting because they serve different functions in the tax system.

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Javier Torres

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Just wanted to add something important - make sure you keep documentation of all your attempts to get the W9 from your landlord. I had a similar situation and the IRS actually questioned my 1099 filing during a review of my return. I was able to show emails requesting the W9 multiple times, which satisfied them that I had made a "reasonable effort." Also, when you do get the W9, verify the TIN (Tax Identification Number) using the IRS TIN matching program if you can. Prevents headaches later if the information turns out to be incorrect!

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Emma Wilson

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How do you access the IRS TIN matching program? Is that something available to small business owners or only for certain types of companies?

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Miguel Silva

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The TIN Matching program is available to all businesses that need to file 1099s, including small business owners. You can access it through the IRS website - just search for "TIN Matching" on irs.gov. You'll need to register for an account and there's a small fee per TIN verification (I think it's around $5 per match). It's especially useful if you're dealing with situations like this where you're not sure about the entity receiving your payments. The system will tell you if the name and TIN combination match IRS records before you file your 1099s. Much better than finding out after filing that the information was wrong!

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Charlie Yang

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I have a home office but my lease is under my personal name, not my LLC. One thing I learned from my accountant is that you should also consider the timing of when you formed your LLC versus when you signed the lease. Since your lease was signed before your LLC existed, you're personally liable for the rent payments (not your LLC), but you can still deduct the business portion as a business expense on your Schedule C. The 1099 requirement still applies because you're paying for business use, even though the lease isn't in your LLC's name. Also, a pro tip - when you do reach out to Pine Valley Properties for the W9, explain that you need it for tax compliance purposes and that it's a standard business requirement. Most property management companies deal with this regularly and should have a process in place. If they seem confused, you can even send them IRS Publication 1220 which explains their obligations as payees.

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Natalie Adams

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This is really valuable information about the timing aspect! I hadn't considered that the lease being signed before the LLC formation would affect things. So even though I'm operating through my LLC now, since the lease predates it, I'm still personally responsible for the rent but can deduct the business portion? One follow-up question - when I do get the W9 from Pine Valley Properties and file the 1099, should the 1099 be issued from me personally or from my LLC? Since the lease is in my personal name but I'm claiming it as a business expense through my LLC, I'm not sure which entity should be listed as the payer on the 1099 form. Also, thanks for the tip about IRS Publication 1220 - that sounds like it could help make the conversation with the property management company much smoother!

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