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Zoe Gonzalez

How to calculate taxes as a Non-Resident Alien student with multiple income sources?

I'm studying in the U.S. on an F-1 visa since August 2023, so I'm classified as a Non-Resident Alien (NRA) for tax purposes. While going through IRS publications, I found that my income will be split into two categories: 1. Income that is effectively connected with a trade or business in the United States, and 2. Income that is not effectively connected with a trade or business in the United States (subject to the 30% Tax) I've got several income streams and I'm totally confused about which category each falls into. Here's what I'm earning: 1. My campus job paycheck (about $950/month) 2. Interest from a 12-month CD at Chase ($325 total) 3. Interest from my high-yield savings accounts with SoFi and Capital One (about $480) 4. Dividends from Vanguard money market funds (around $620 - I'm using this instead of savings because the rates are better) 5. Gains from matured U.S. Treasury Bills (approximately $400) 6. Interest payments from U.S. Treasury Notes (about $270 twice a year) 7. Profits from selling some Treasury Bonds before maturity (roughly $830) Can anyone help me figure out how these different types of income should be categorized for my NRA tax filing? I'm really stressed about making a mistake when I file for 2025. Thanks for any guidance!

Ashley Adams

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The key to categorizing your income as an F-1 student with NRA status lies in understanding what "effectively connected income" (ECI) actually means. Your on-campus job income (#1) is definitely ECI and will be taxed at graduated rates on Form 1040NR. This is because you're physically performing services in the US. For your investment income (items #2-7), it gets more complicated. Generally for NRAs, most investment income (interest, dividends, capital gains) falls under FDAP (Fixed, Determinable, Annual, or Periodical) income subject to 30% withholding or a lower treaty rate. However, there's good news! For items #5-7 (Treasury securities), the interest and gains are usually exempt from NRA taxation under the "portfolio interest exemption." Items #2-4 (bank interest, savings interest, and money market dividends) are typically subject to the 30% tax unless your country has a tax treaty with the US reducing this rate. Check if your country has a tax treaty with the US - that could significantly reduce your tax liability on the interest and dividends.

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Thanks for the explanation. I'm from India and we do have a tax treaty with the US. Does that mean all my investment income would be taxed at a lower rate? And do I need to file any special forms to claim treaty benefits?

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Ashley Adams

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The US-India tax treaty does offer some benefits. For interest income (items #2-3), the treaty reduces the rate to 15% instead of 30%. For dividends (item #4), it's also reduced to 15%. You'll need to submit Form 8233 to claim treaty benefits for any income paid to you directly. For investment income where tax is withheld, you might need to file Form 1042-S. Additionally, you'll need to include Form 8833 with your tax return to report treaty-based positions.

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Aaron Lee

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Did you find it handled your 1040NR filing correctly? I've been using TurboTax but they seem really lacking when it comes to nonresident stuff. Also wondering if it helps determine applicable tax treaties?

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Michael Adams

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I'm skeptical about these tax services for international students. Most don't understand the complexity of F-1 visa tax status. Can it actually determine the portfolio interest exemption for treasury securities? That's the part that always confuses me.

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Samantha Hall

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This sounds like BS honestly. I've never been able to reach anyone at the IRS who actually understands international student taxation. The agents usually just read generic info from their scripts. Did you actually get specific answers about portfolio interest exemptions?

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Ryan Young

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As an international student advisor, I'd recommend being very careful about how you report your income categories. One detail that hasn't been mentioned yet is the Substantial Presence Test - if you've been in the US since last year, depending on exactly when you arrived and how many days you were present, you might actually be considered a resident alien for tax purposes this year. F-1 students are exempt from counting days toward this test for 5 calendar years, but if you had any other status before F-1, the calculation gets complicated. Also, make sure to file Form 8843 regardless of whether you have income or not!

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Zoe Gonzalez

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Thanks for mentioning the Substantial Presence Test! I arrived in August 2023 and have been on F-1 status the entire time, so I believe I'm still exempt from counting days. But you're right, I definitely need to file Form 8843. For the Treasury securities (items #5-7), I'm still confused about reporting. If they're exempt from the 30% tax, do I still need to report them somewhere on my 1040NR? Or do they just not appear anywhere on my tax return?

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Ryan Young

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You're definitely still in your exemption period for the Substantial Presence Test if you've been continuously on F-1 since August 2023. You'll remain an NRA for tax purposes. For the Treasury securities, you do still need to report them even though they're exempt from tax. They should be reported on Form 1040NR Schedule NEC (Income Not Effectively Connected With a U.S. Trade or Business), but you'll identify them as exempt by writing "portfolio interest exemption" next to the line. This shows the IRS you're aware of the exemption rather than just omitting reportable income.

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Sophia Clark

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Don't forget about state taxes too! NRA status is for federal taxes, but states have their own rules. Some states will tax all your worldwide income if you're considered a resident of that state (usually after living there for 183+ days). Income that's exempt federally (like your Treasury interest) might still be taxable at the state level. Which state are you in?

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This is such an important point! I'm an F-1 in California and discovered that my federally-exempt Treasury interest was fully taxable for state purposes. Cost me an extra $300 in state taxes that I wasn't expecting.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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I'm in Michigan. I hadn't even thought about state taxes being different from federal for NRAs. Do you know if Michigan taxes Treasury interest for international students? This is getting really complicated.

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