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Isabella Russo

How are CD Interest Earnings Taxed for Non Resident Alien F-1 Student?

Hey folks, I'm an international student on an F-1 visa at University of Wisconsin and I've been trying to figure out my tax situation with some CDs I bought. I put about $9,000 into a few CDs at my local credit union last summer when rates were pretty good (like 5.2%) and now I'm getting these 1099-INT forms showing the interest I earned. The thing is, I have no idea how this is supposed to be taxed as a non-resident alien student. My home country (Malaysia) has some kind of tax treaty with the US, but I'm confused if that applies to bank interest or just to my campus job. The bank didn't withhold anything when they paid me the interest. Do I report this on form 1040-NR? And is there a special tax rate for non-resident alien students on F-1 visas for interest income? Or should I be filling out a W-8BEN form with my bank? I'm completely lost and the IRS website is so confusing on this topic. Anyone dealt with this before?

Rajiv Kumar

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Yes, as an F-1 student who is a non-resident alien for tax purposes, you need to report your CD interest earnings on Form 1040-NR. Interest income is generally considered U.S. source income when it's paid by U.S. banks, credit unions, etc., which means it's taxable even for non-residents. The US-Malaysia tax treaty might provide some benefits, but typically bank interest isn't exempt under most treaties for non-resident aliens. However, you should check Article 11 of your specific treaty to confirm this. The treaty primarily affects income from employment, scholarships, and certain investments. Since your bank didn't withhold any tax, you'll need to calculate and pay the tax when you file. Non-resident aliens typically pay a flat 30% tax on interest income unless a tax treaty specifies otherwise. You should have provided the bank with Form W-8BEN to certify your foreign status, but you can still do this now to ensure proper reporting going forward.

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Thanks for your help! So even if I didn't submit the W-8BEN before, I still need to pay 30% on all the interest I earned? That seems really high compared to what my American roommates pay on their savings. Does the W-8BEN potentially reduce that 30% rate? And just to double check - I use the 1040-NR form, not the regular 1040 form that my roommates use, right?

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Rajiv Kumar

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The 30% tax rate is the default for non-resident aliens, but submitting Form W-8BEN allows you to claim treaty benefits if they apply to your situation. Unfortunately, most treaties don't provide reduced rates for bank interest, but it's worth checking the US-Malaysia treaty specific provisions. Yes, you must use Form 1040-NR, not the regular 1040. The 1040-NR is specifically designed for non-resident aliens to report their US-source income. Make sure to report the interest income on Schedule NEC (Income Not Effectively Connected With a U.S. Trade or Business) of your 1040-NR.

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I went through this exact situation last year with my Capital One CDs! I was so confused trying to figure out how to properly report the interest as an F-1 student. I found this website called https://taxr.ai that really helped me navigate through all the tax treaty stuff. What's cool is you can upload your tax documents like your 1099-INT and it will analyze everything specifically for international students. It explains exactly how the tax treaties apply to your situation and even helps determine if you're exempt from any taxes. Their system is designed specifically for non-resident scenarios like yours. The best part was that it walked me through the exact process of reporting the interest on my 1040-NR and showed me where everything needed to go. It saved me from making mistakes that could have triggered issues with my visa status.

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Liam O'Reilly

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Does it actually check specific tax treaties? I'm from India and have had issues with figuring out which parts of the US-India tax treaty apply to my situation vs what's in the general IRS publications.

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Chloe Delgado

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I'm skeptical about these tax services that claim to understand international tax treaties. Does it actually know the Malaysia-US treaty details or just general rules? My experience has been that most tax software doesn't handle non-resident situations well.

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Yes, it actually checks specific tax treaties based on your citizenship and visa status! When you input your country (Malaysia in your case), it pulls the exact treaty provisions that apply to your situation. It's not just generic advice - it's specific to each country's agreement with the US. For your situation with India, it would reference the US-India tax treaty and highlight the relevant sections that apply to your specific types of income. It's much more detailed than the general IRS publications which tend to be vague on international situations.

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Liam O'Reilly

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I tried https://taxr.ai after reading about it here and WOW what a difference! As a fellow international student dealing with CD interest (I have CDs with Bank of America), I was completely confused about how the tax treaty worked. I uploaded my 1099-INT forms and entered my visa information, and it immediately showed me the exact tax treaty articles that applied to my situation. For my country, there was actually a reduced tax rate for interest income that I had no idea about! The step-by-step guidance for filling out Form 1040-NR was incredibly helpful. It even generated a detailed explanation I could keep for my records explaining the tax position. This saved me from paying way more than I needed to. Definitely recommend for any F-1 student dealing with investment income!

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Ava Harris

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Jacob Lee

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Wait, so this service just calls the IRS for you? Couldn't you just do that yourself? I'm confused about what they actually provide that's worth paying for.

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I'm HIGHLY skeptical. The IRS agents I've spoken to barely understand domestic tax situations, let alone complicated international student cases with tax treaties. Did you really get someone who knew about F-1 specific issues?

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Ava Harris

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The service calls the IRS, navigates through all their complicated phone menus, waits on hold (which can be hours), and then calls you when they have an actual human IRS agent on the line. It saves you from wasting your entire day on hold. I was skeptical too, but the agent I got was from the International Taxpayer division. I specifically asked for that department when I received the call from Claimyr. The agent was actually quite knowledgeable about F-1 visa taxation and tax treaties. They directed me to the exact publications that covered my situation and explained the filing requirements for my CD interest. It's definitely hit or miss with IRS agents, but requesting the right department makes a huge difference.

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I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr! After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I had a similar CD interest question for my F-1 taxes that no one could answer. The service actually worked exactly as described - I got a call back in about 45 minutes with an IRS agent already on the line. I asked to speak with someone from the International Taxpayer division, and they transferred me to an agent who was surprisingly knowledgeable about the tax treaty provisions. The agent confirmed that for my specific country, there's actually a reduced rate of 15% instead of the standard 30% on interest income, and walked me through exactly how to claim it on my 1040-NR. They also explained which forms I needed to attach to document the treaty claim. I would have never figured this out on my own, and I was close to paying way more tax than necessary. Definitely worth it if you have specific international tax questions!

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Another option you might consider is speaking with the international student office at your university. Many schools have tax advisors who specifically help international students with these exact issues. My school (UC Berkeley) offers free tax workshops for international students around tax season and they can usually answer these specific questions about investment income. They deal with students from all different countries so they're familiar with various tax treaties.

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That's a great suggestion! I hadn't thought of checking with our international office. Do they usually have expertise on investment income though? When I attended their tax workshop last year, they mainly focused on basic employment income and filling out the standard forms.

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In my experience, the quality of tax advice from university international offices varies greatly. Our office brings in specialized tax advisors during tax season who can handle most international student tax scenarios, including investment income. Even if your office only covered employment income previously, they should still be able to direct you to resources specific to your situation. Many international offices have partnerships with tax services that offer discounted rates for students with more complex situations. It's definitely worth checking with them before paying for outside help, as they might offer free resources you're already entitled to as a student.

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Daniela Rossi

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Has anyone else here had issues with their bank not understanding how to handle non-resident alien accounts? My local bank had no idea what a W-8BEN was when I first opened my CD, and they reported my interest wrong last year.

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Ryan Kim

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Try a bigger national bank instead of a local one. I've had accounts with Chase and they have specialized departments that handle international banking issues. Their staff is much more familiar with W-8BEN forms and non-resident reporting requirements.

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Daniela Rossi

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Thanks for the suggestion. I've been thinking about switching banks anyway since my CD is about to mature. Did Chase withhold the proper amount automatically once you submitted the W-8BEN, or did you still have to figure out the taxes yourself when filing?

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Zoe Walker

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One thing to keep in mind: if your total income from U.S. sources is very low (under about $12,950 for 2023), you might actually end up paying less if you choose to be treated as a U.S. resident for tax purposes (using the "substantial presence test" exception). This would let you file Form 1040 instead of 1040-NR and potentially claim the standard deduction. This gets complicated though and depends on your specific situation. You need to be careful because making this election can affect your visa status in some cases. But for some F-1 students who've been here for a while, it can be beneficial tax-wise.

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Paolo Longo

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I'm also an F-1 student and dealt with this exact situation last year! One thing that really helped me was understanding that the Malaysia-US tax treaty (Article 11) actually does provide some relief for interest income in certain cases. The key is whether you're considered a "resident" of Malaysia for treaty purposes - if you still maintain ties there (like family, permanent address, etc.), you might qualify for reduced withholding rates or even exemptions on certain types of interest. Also, make sure when you file your 1040-NR that you attach Form 8833 (Treaty-Based Return Position Disclosure) if you're claiming any treaty benefits. The IRS requires this form whenever you take a position that a tax treaty overrides or modifies any provision of the Internal Revenue Code. For future reference, definitely get that W-8BEN submitted to your credit union ASAP. It won't help with this year's taxes, but it ensures proper treatment going forward. Good luck with your filing!

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CosmicCruiser

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This is really helpful information about the Malaysia-US tax treaty! I had no idea about Form 8833 - that seems like something the IRS would definitely want to see if I'm claiming treaty benefits. Quick question though - how do you determine if you're still considered a "resident" of Malaysia for treaty purposes? I've been in the US for about 2 years now for my studies, but I still have my permanent address back home with my parents and plan to return after graduation. Does that count as maintaining sufficient ties? Also, do you remember what the reduced rate was for interest income under the Malaysia treaty, or does it vary depending on the specific circumstances?

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Great point about Form 8833! I actually had to file this form when I claimed treaty benefits on my interest income. For determining Malaysian residency under the treaty, it's based on where your "permanent home" is located - since you maintain a permanent address with your parents and plan to return, you'd likely still be considered a Malaysian resident for treaty purposes. Under Article 11 of the Malaysia-US tax treaty, interest paid to a Malaysian resident is generally subject to a reduced withholding rate of 15% instead of the standard 30%. However, there are some exceptions - certain types of government and institutional interest can be completely exempt. The tricky part is that your credit union probably didn't withhold anything since you didn't have the W-8BEN on file, so you'll need to calculate the proper 15% tax when you file your 1040-NR. Make sure to attach both the Form 8833 and documentation showing your Malaysian residency status. I kept copies of my Malaysian address proof and student documentation just in case the IRS had questions later.

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Naila Gordon

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As someone who went through a similar situation as an F-1 student from the Philippines, I can confirm what others have mentioned about the complexity of international student tax situations with investment income. One thing I learned the hard way is that even if your bank didn't withhold taxes on your CD interest, you're still responsible for calculating and paying the correct amount when you file. The 1099-INT you received shows the gross interest earned, but as a non-resident alien, you'll typically owe either 30% (standard rate) or a reduced rate if your country's tax treaty provides for it. For Malaysia specifically, I believe the US-Malaysia tax treaty does provide for a reduced 15% withholding rate on interest income paid to Malaysian residents, but you'll need to verify this applies to your specific situation. The key is determining if you're still considered a Malaysian resident for tax treaty purposes (which sounds likely given your student status and intent to return). Don't forget to file Form 8833 if you claim any treaty benefits - the IRS requires this disclosure form whenever you take a position based on a tax treaty. Also, definitely get that W-8BEN submitted to your credit union for next year to avoid this confusion going forward. The 1040-NR can be intimidating, but Schedule NEC is where you'll report the interest income that's not effectively connected with a US trade or business. Good luck with your filing!

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Ava Rodriguez

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This is incredibly detailed and helpful - thank you for breaking down the process so clearly! I'm especially glad you mentioned the Schedule NEC part since I was wondering exactly where on the 1040-NR the interest income should go. One follow-up question: when you calculate the 15% tax (assuming the Malaysia treaty applies), do you pay that amount with your tax return, or is there a way to make estimated payments throughout the year? Since my bank didn't withhold anything, I'm worried about owing a large lump sum when I file. Also, did you have any issues with the IRS accepting your treaty position the first time you filed, or was it pretty straightforward once you included Form 8833? I'm nervous about getting it wrong and having complications later.

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