How to Change EIN Responsible Party to Non-Resident Foreigner Without an SSN
I recently acquired a US-based company and need to change the responsible party on the EIN to myself. The thing is, I'm not a US resident and don't have a Social Security Number or TIN. When I look at form 8822-B, it asks for my name but also wants a US SSN, which I obviously don't have and honestly would prefer not to get if possible. What's the best approach to get the company's EIN updated to show me as the responsible party? Should I apply for an SSN as a non-resident alien living outside the US (is that even possible)? Or should I just submit form 8822-B without an SSN and wait to see what the IRS says? Maybe I should fax them and wait for a response? Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Any suggestions would be really helpful. I'm kind of stuck on how to proceed.
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KylieRose
This is a common situation for international business owners. You don't need an SSN to be listed as a responsible party on an EIN. What you need is an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN), which is specifically designed for foreign nationals who need a US tax ID but aren't eligible for an SSN. To change the responsible party, you'll need to: 1) Apply for an ITIN using Form W-7 (Application for IRS Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) 2) Once you receive your ITIN, complete Form 8822-B and use your ITIN in place of the SSN 3) Submit the completed form to the address listed on the instructions The process for obtaining an ITIN can take 7-11 weeks, so plan accordingly. You'll need to provide documentation proving your identity, like a certified copy of your passport.
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Miguel Hernández
•Thanks for this info! I've heard ITINs can be difficult to get though. Do you know if the OP can submit the 8822-B form while the ITIN application is still processing? My business partner is in a similar situation and we're trying to figure out the timeline.
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KylieRose
•You can't submit the 8822-B without a tax identification number, as it's a required field. The IRS will just reject the form if that field is empty. The ITIN process can indeed take some time, but it's the correct path forward. While waiting, the previous responsible party will remain on record with the IRS. If you need to expedite the process, you can use what's called an "Acceptance Agent" - these are IRS-authorized individuals who can verify your documents and help submit your W-7 application, sometimes speeding up the process.
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Sasha Ivanov
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Liam Murphy
•How long did the whole process take using their service? I'm in a similar situation but really need to get this done ASAP for a business loan.
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Amara Okafor
•Sounds interesting but how does it actually work? Do you just upload your documents and they review them? Can they actually help you get an ITIN faster?
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Sasha Ivanov
•The whole process took about 6 weeks from start to finish, which was way faster than my first attempt that got rejected and had to be restarted. That's not including the IRS processing time, of course, but at least everything was accepted the first time around. The way it works is you upload your documents and their system analyzes them using some kind of AI that checks for common errors. Then they have actual tax experts review everything before you submit. They can't make the IRS process ITINs faster, but they make sure your application doesn't get rejected for silly mistakes, which saves a ton of time overall.
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Amara Okafor
I tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here and it was definitely worth it. My situation was similar - I'm a Canadian who bought into a US LLC and needed to be added as a responsible party. The service caught a mistake I made on my W-7 form that would have definitely resulted in rejection. They also provided clear instructions for what supporting documents I needed to include with my ITIN application. My ITIN was approved in about 8 weeks, and then updating the EIN responsible party with form 8822-B was simple. The whole thing was way less stressful than I expected after hearing horror stories from other foreign business owners.
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CaptainAwesome
After spending FIVE DAYS trying to reach the IRS business line about this exact issue last year, I finally used Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and got through to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent confirmed exactly what others have said here - you need an ITIN first, then submit the 8822-B. But they also told me something nobody mentioned: if you're not physically in the US, you can actually have a US-based "nominee" temporarily listed as the responsible party while your ITIN application processes. This can be an accountant or lawyer who has authority to act on behalf of the business. This was a huge help because we needed to open business bank accounts right away and couldn't wait for the ITIN process.
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Yuki Tanaka
•How exactly does this Claimyr thing work? I don't understand how they can get you through to the IRS when nobody else can.
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Esmeralda Gómez
•Right, like the IRS is just going to pick up for some random service when they ignore everyone else. Sounds like BS to me. I've been trying for weeks to talk to someone about my EIN issue.
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CaptainAwesome
•It works by basically waiting on hold for you. They have some system that dials repeatedly until they get through, then their system calls you when an IRS agent is on the line. I was skeptical too, but they only charge you if they actually get you through to a person. The nominee process is completely legitimate - it's something the IRS offers specifically for foreign business owners. The agent walked me through the whole process and explained we could update it again once the ITIN came through. The nominee just needs to fill out a form stating they're temporarily acting on behalf of the business owner.
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Esmeralda Gómez
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I tried Claimyr after posting my skeptical comment, and IT ACTUALLY WORKED. Got through to an IRS business representative in about 25 minutes. The agent confirmed everything that was said above about needing an ITIN. But they also mentioned something really important - if you submit your ITIN application (W-7) along with the 8822-B form simultaneously, with a cover letter explaining the situation, they can process both together. This apparently avoids the catch-22 situation where you need the ITIN for the 8822-B but need to show why you need the ITIN. Definitely worth the call - saved me weeks of research and potential rejections.
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Klaus Schmidt
Don't overlook the option of applying for an EIN as a foreign entity with Form SS-4. There's a specific section for foreign applicants without an SSN/ITIN. You can mark "Foreign" in the SSN/ITIN field and provide your foreign tax ID if you have one. I did this for my UK company investing in a US business and it worked fine. The responsible party issue came up, but on the international line they told me to just indicate "foreign" on the form and provide my foreign passport number.
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Aisha Patel
•But the OP already has an EIN for the company they bought. They're trying to change the responsible party, not get a new EIN. Does your approach still work in that case?
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Klaus Schmidt
•You're right - I missed that detail. For changing a responsible party on an existing EIN, you do need an ITIN or SSN. However, there is a workaround that sometimes works. You can include a signed statement with your 8822-B explaining that you're a foreign person without a US tax ID number, along with a copy of your passport or foreign tax ID. In some cases, the IRS will process it with just the foreign ID, but it's hit or miss. The most reliable path is still getting an ITIN first.
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LilMama23
One thing nobody mentioned yet - you might want to check if the company you purchased has any tax filings due soon. If the responsible party hasn't been updated, IRS notices will still go to the previous owner. I learned this the hard way and got hit with penalties because I didn't receive the notices. You might want to file a Form 2848 (Power of Attorney) with the IRS as well, so you can authorize someone to speak to the IRS on your behalf while this gets sorted out.
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Dmitri Volkov
•Good point! Also, does anyone know if having a registered agent service helps with this situation? We use one for state filings but I'm not sure if they can receive IRS notices too.
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LilMama23
•A registered agent typically only handles state-level communications, not federal IRS notices. That's why the Form 2848 is important - it specifically authorizes someone to receive IRS communications about your tax matters. If you're concerned about missing notices during this transition period, the safest approach is to hire a US-based accountant who can serve as your Power of Attorney for IRS matters. They can receive copies of all notices and help ensure nothing falls through the cracks while your responsible party update is processing.
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Mateo Gonzalez
I went through this exact situation when I acquired a Florida LLC last year. Here's what worked for me: 1) Don't submit the 8822-B without a tax ID - the IRS will reject it immediately 2) Apply for an ITIN using Form W-7 first. I included a cover letter explaining I needed it to update the responsible party on an existing EIN 3) The ITIN process took about 9 weeks, but it was approved without issues One tip that saved me time: when you apply for the ITIN, make sure to include a certified copy of your passport AND a utility bill or bank statement from your home country to prove your foreign address. The IRS is very strict about identity verification for foreign applicants. Also, consider having your attorney or accountant handle the 8822-B submission once you get your ITIN. They're familiar with the process and can follow up if there are any issues. The whole thing was much smoother than I expected once I had the right paperwork in order.
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Freya Johansen
•This is really helpful, thanks for sharing your experience! I'm curious about the certified passport copy requirement - did you have to get it certified by a US consulate or was a certification from your home country sufficient? I'm trying to figure out the logistics since getting to a US consulate would be quite difficult from where I'm located. Also, when you mention including a utility bill, does it need to be translated to English if it's in another language? I want to make sure I get all the documentation right the first time to avoid delays.
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Liam O'Sullivan
•@Freya Johansen Great questions! For the certified passport copy, I actually had it done at a local notary public in my home country Canada (and) it was accepted without any issues. You don t'need to go to a US consulate - any official who can certify documents in your country should work fine. Regarding translations, yes, any documents not in English need to be translated by a certified translator. I had to translate my bank statement from French. The translation needs to include a statement from the translator certifying that it s'accurate and complete. It added about $50 to the cost but prevented any potential rejections. One more tip: make sure all your documents are dated within 90 days of when you submit your W-7. The IRS is strict about this timing requirement, especially for utility bills or bank statements used for address verification.
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Grace Lee
I just want to add something that might help speed up your ITIN application process. When I applied for my ITIN last year for a similar situation, I discovered that you can actually submit your W-7 application through an IRS-authorized Certified Acceptance Agent (CAA). The big advantage is that CAAs can review your original documents (like your passport) and then submit certified copies to the IRS, so you don't have to mail your actual passport to the IRS. This eliminates the risk of losing your passport in the mail and can sometimes speed up processing since the IRS trusts the CAA's document verification. You can find a list of CAAs on the IRS website - many are accounting firms or tax preparation services that specialize in helping foreign nationals. Some even offer virtual services where you can video call to show your documents. Also, once you get your ITIN and submit the 8822-B, make sure to keep copies of everything and send it via certified mail. The IRS can take 4-6 weeks just to process the responsible party change, and having tracking helps if you need to follow up.
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Connor O'Brien
•This is excellent advice about the CAAs! I had no idea this was an option and it would have saved me so much stress when I was going through this process. Mailing my passport to the IRS was honestly terrifying - I kept imagining it getting lost in the system somewhere. For anyone considering this route, I'd definitely recommend calling a few CAAs to compare their fees and processing times. Some charge a flat rate while others charge hourly, and the costs can vary quite a bit. Also ask about their experience with ITIN applications for EIN responsible party changes specifically - some are more familiar with this particular situation than others. One question for @Grace Lee - do you know if using a CAA actually speeds up the IRS processing time, or does it just eliminate the document mailing risk? I m'wondering if the IRS prioritizes applications that come through CAAs or if it s'just about reducing errors and lost documents.
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Zara Rashid
I went through this exact process about 6 months ago when I bought a Delaware LLC as a non-resident. Here's what I learned that might save you some time: The ITIN route is definitely the correct path, but there are a few things that can trip you up. First, when you file the W-7, make sure to check the box for "Exception 1(a)" which is specifically for non-resident aliens who need an ITIN for tax treaty benefits or to claim refunds. This helps the IRS understand why you need the ITIN. Second, I'd strongly recommend getting a US-based tax attorney or CPA involved from the start. They can handle both the ITIN application and the 8822-B submission as your authorized representative. This was worth every penny for me because they knew exactly what documentation to include and how to present everything properly. One more thing - while you're waiting for the ITIN, make sure the company's business address with the IRS is updated to an address where you can actually receive mail (or have someone receive it for you). I made the mistake of leaving the previous owner's address on file and almost missed some important notices. The whole process took about 10 weeks for me from start to finish, but it was much smoother having professional help. Good luck!
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