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Diego Castillo

How to Calculate Original Asset Cost from Previous Years' Depreciation on My Food Truck?

I'm really struggling with figuring out depreciation on my food cart business! I stupidly lost the file that had my original purchase price for the cart, and now I need to calculate this year's depreciation. This is the third year I've owned the cart. In 2022, I recorded depreciation as $7,564, and in 2023, it was $15,128. I know I've been using the 5-year depreciation schedule for this asset. Is there a way to work backwards from these depreciation amounts to figure out what the original cost was? And once I know that, how do I calculate what this year's depreciation should be? I'm trying to get my taxes in order for 2024 and this is the last piece I'm missing. Any help would be seriously appreciated! My accountant is on vacation and I'm trying to get this done before he's back.

Logan Stewart

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Based on your depreciation amounts, I can help you work backwards to find your original asset cost. When using the 5-year MACRS depreciation schedule, the percentages for each year are approximately: - Year 1: 20% - Year 2: 32% - Year 3: 19.2% - Year 4: 11.52% - Year 5: 11.52% - Year 6: 5.76% Since your Year 1 (2022) depreciation was $7,564, that would represent 20% of your cost basis. Dividing $7,564 by 0.20 gives us an original cost of approximately $37,820. To verify: Year 2 (2023) should be 32% of $37,820, which is about $12,102. This doesn't match your $15,128 exactly, so you may have used a different depreciation method or had some adjustments. For 2024 (Year 3), using the standard 5-year schedule, your depreciation would be 19.2% of $37,820, which is approximately $7,261.

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Mikayla Brown

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Wait, I'm confused. Wouldn't the second year depreciation be higher than the first year? The numbers they gave show the second year ($15,128) is higher than the first year ($7,564). Is that normal? I thought depreciation amounts were supposed to decrease each year?

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Logan Stewart

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Great observation about the pattern. You're thinking of straight-line depreciation where the amount stays the same each year. The MACRS method (Modified Accelerated Cost Recovery System) that many businesses use actually has different percentages for each year, with Year 2 typically being higher than Year 1. This happens because MACRS uses something called the "half-year convention" which assumes you purchased the asset in the middle of the first year, so you only get half a year's depreciation in Year 1. Then Year 2 gives you a full year's worth at the accelerated rate, making it the highest depreciation year in the schedule.

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Ali Anderson

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Did you have to upload your previous tax returns for this to work? I'm always nervous about uploading financial documents to websites I haven't used before.

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Zadie Patel

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I'm skeptical. Why would the IRS help with calculations like this? Don't they just tell you to talk to a tax professional? And how much does this service cost? Sounds like it could be expensive.

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Another approach - check your original bank statements from when you purchased the food truck. The transaction should be there, and most banks let you access statements going back several years. That's how I found the original cost of equipment when I lost my records.

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That's a really good suggestion, thank you! I actually took out a loan for part of it, so I could probably find the loan documents too. I was just hoping to figure it out from the depreciation numbers since I had those handy. Would the calculation that Profile 12 provided make sense to you? The amounts don't quite match up with what I recorded, so I'm wondering if I used a different method than standard MACRS.

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I think Profile 12's calculation is on the right track, but it seems like you might be using the 200% declining balance method rather than the standard MACRS percentages they provided. This would explain why your second year depreciation is higher than what their calculation suggests. Try this: if your original cost was around $39,500-$40,000, then a 5-year 200% declining balance method with half-year convention would give about $7,900 in year 1 and $15,100 in year 2. That's really close to your numbers of $7,564 and $15,128. For year 3, you'd be looking at about $7,600 depreciation. If these numbers sound right, I'd go with an original cost of $39,800, which would give you pretty much exactly what you reported for the first two years.

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Lucas Parker

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Have you tried just calling your food truck dealer? I had a similar issue with some restaurant equipment, and they had records of the sale even from 4 years ago. Worth a shot before doing all these complex calculations.

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Donna Cline

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Great idea! I've been a dealer for food trucks for 10+ years and we keep ALL sales records. We get calls like this regularly and can provide copies of the original invoice. Most dealers should be able to do this for you.

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I hadn't even thought of that! I bought it used from another food truck owner who was going out of business, so I don't have a dealer to call. But I just remembered I might have the original bill of sale somewhere in my home office. Going to dig through some files tonight. I did some calculations based on what everyone suggested here, and I'm pretty confident the original cost was around $39,800. That gives depreciation amounts that almost exactly match what I claimed in 2022 and 2023. This year's should be around $7,600. Thanks everyone for your help - I was really stuck on this!

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