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Javier Morales

Calculating Home Depreciation on Sale After Years of Home Office Deductions

I've lived in my current house for almost 21 years and we're finally putting it on the market next week. Looking at my tax situation, I realized I've claimed the home office deduction for probably 15-16 of those years. On this year's Form 8829, I'm showing about $1,320 of depreciation on the house. Here's my problem - I only have tax records going back about 6 years. Everything before that was paper returns which I (probably stupidly) shredded after keeping them for the recommended 7 years. Now I'm realizing when I sell the house, I need to report all the depreciation I've taken on the home office portion, but I'm missing a big chunk of that history. I checked the IRS website and it looks like I can only access the last few years of my electronic filings. How in the world am I supposed to figure out the depreciation for all those missing years when I know I took the home office deduction? Is there some kind of formula I can use to estimate it? Should I try contacting the IRS for copies of my old returns? My tax preparer retired a couple years ago, so I can't even go back to them for help. Anyone dealt with this before?

Emma Davis

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The good news is you can figure this out without needing every old tax return! When you claim depreciation on a home office, you're using a fixed percentage of your home and a standardized depreciation method. First, determine what percentage of your home was used for business (the same figure you used on Form 8829). Next, you'll need your home's cost basis when you began using the home office. If your current Form 8829 shows $1,320 in depreciation, you can work backward to determine your basis and percentage. For residential real estate, the IRS uses a 39-year straight-line depreciation method for business use of your home. So if you consistently used the same percentage of your home as an office, the annual depreciation amount would be fairly consistent (with some variation if you made improvements). You could request tax transcripts from the IRS, but they might not show the detailed depreciation figures. Your best approach is to recreate the depreciation schedule based on your home's basis and the business use percentage from your available records.

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GalaxyGlider

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But I thought homes use a 27.5 year depreciation schedule not 39 years? Isn't 39 years for commercial property? If OP used the wrong schedule wouldn't they have to amend returns?

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Emma Davis

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You're absolutely right, and I apologize for the error. Residential rental property uses a 27.5-year depreciation period under MACRS, not 39 years (which is for commercial property). For a home office in your primary residence, you would indeed use the 27.5-year schedule, depreciating the business portion of your home each year using Form 8829. This means you would deduct approximately 3.636% of the business portion's basis annually. This makes it fairly straightforward to work backward from your recent returns to estimate the full depreciation.

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Does it actually access your old tax returns somehow? Or is it just making educated guesses based on your recent returns? I'm curious because I'm in a similar situation but with rental property depreciation.

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This sounds neat but I'm kinda skeptical. How accurate could those estimates really be? Especially if you've changed the size of your home office over the years or had different percentages of business use?

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Chloe Harris

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If you have the original purchase price of your home and know what percentage you've been using for business purposes, you can actually recreate your depreciation schedule pretty easily. Here's what I'd do: 1) Take your original purchase price + any improvements 2) Multiply by the percentage used for business 3) Divide by 27.5 years That gives you your annual depreciation amount. Multiply by the number of years you claimed it, and you'll have a good approximation, even without all the returns.

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Thank you for this simple breakdown! I think I can work with this approach. Do I need to adjust for any improvements we made to the house over the years? We did a kitchen remodel about 12 years ago and added a bathroom around the same time.

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Chloe Harris

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Yes, major improvements should definitely be factored in. For the kitchen remodel and bathroom addition, you would take the cost of those improvements, multiply by your business use percentage, and then depreciate that amount over 27.5 years starting from the year the improvements were completed. You'll want to add this additional depreciation to your original calculation. If your home office included any portion of these improved areas, that would increase your annual depreciation from the point those improvements were made. It makes the calculation a bit more complex, but still very doable even without all your old returns.

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Diego Mendoza

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Just wondering if anyone knows if there's a penalty if you underreport the depreciation recapture? I mean, if the OP genuinely can't figure out the exact amount taken over 21 years, what happens?

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Yes there definitely can be. The IRS requires you to recapture ALL depreciation that was "allowed or allowable" - meaning even if you didn't claim it but could have, you still have to recapture it. If you underreport, you could face accuracy-related penalties plus interest on the underpaid taxes.

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