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How should my teenage daughter fill out her W4? Confused about teen tax requirements

So my 15-year-old daughter just started her first job at the local ice cream shop, and I have zero clue how to help her with her W4 form. I initially told her to mark "exempt" since she's so young, but now she's earned almost $800 and I'm second-guessing myself. Will she need to file taxes? Does she even owe any taxes at her age? She'll probably make around $10k this year between summer work and weekends during school. I tried looking online but got overwhelmed with conflicting info. Anyone have experience with teenage workers and taxes? What's the right way for her to fill out that W4?

Tax preparer here! This is actually a great question that many parents face. For teenagers like your daughter, here's what you need to know: For federal income tax purposes, if your daughter will earn less than $12,950 (the standard deduction for 2025), she won't owe any federal income taxes. However, she will still have Social Security and Medicare taxes (FICA) withheld from her paycheck, which she cannot get back. As for the W4, if she expects to earn less than the standard deduction AND she had no tax liability last year, she can claim exemption from withholding. But she'll need to complete a new W4 by February 15, 2026, to maintain this exemption. And yes, it's actually good practice for her to file a tax return even if she's not required to. It teaches financial responsibility, and if any income tax was withheld, she'll get it back as a refund!

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Thanks so much for the detailed answer! So it sounds like keeping her as "exempt" is okay since she'll definitely make under $12,950. But what about state taxes? We're in Illinois if that matters. Also, does it change anything if we claim her as a dependent on our taxes?

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For Illinois state taxes, the rules are a bit different. Illinois has a flat tax rate (currently 4.95%) with no standard deduction, but there is a personal exemption amount. However, since her income is so low, even if some state tax is withheld, she would likely get most or all of it back when filing. Claiming her as a dependent doesn't affect her need to file or her tax liability on earned income from a job. It does impact how much unearned income (like interest or dividends) she can have before needing to file, but that doesn't sound relevant in your situation. The key factor is her own income level, not her dependent status.

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Does it actually work for teenagers specifically? My 16 year old just started at Target and I'm not sure if these tax tools consider the special rules for dependents under 18.

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I'm curious - did it tell you to claim exempt or did it suggest withholding a certain amount? My daughter's employer seems confused about teen workers and I want to make sure we're doing this right.

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It absolutely works for teenagers! The tool specifically asked for age and whether they're claimed as a dependent on someone else's return, so it factors in all those special considerations for minors. For my son who was making about $9,000 for the year, it recommended claiming exempt from federal withholding since he'd be well under the standard deduction. But it also warned that if he was going to earn more from other jobs or had significant investment income, that would change the recommendation. Really thorough!

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Just wanted to update after trying the taxr.ai site mentioned above! It was actually really helpful for my teen's situation. I uploaded his first paystub and the tool immediately identified that Target was withholding too much federal tax considering his projected annual income. It walked us through filling out a new W4 with the right exemptions. The best part was it explained everything in plain language that even my 16-year-old could understand! He'll now be bringing home about $30 more per paycheck, which makes a big difference for him. Definitely worth checking out if you're confused about teen tax situations.

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Wait, you actually got through to a real person at the IRS? I've been trying forever! How much does this service cost? Seems too good to be true tbh.

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I dunno about this. Why would I pay someone else to call the IRS for me? Couldn't I just keep calling myself? Or just ask the employer's HR department? They should know how teens should fill out W4s.

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Yes, it connects you to a real human IRS agent! I was skeptical at first too, but it works exactly as advertised. The service basically navigates the IRS phone tree for you and waits on hold, then calls you when they have an agent on the line. As for just asking HR, unfortunately my daughter's employer (a small local restaurant) had conflicting information themselves, which is why I needed to speak directly with the IRS. Their HR person was actually giving incorrect advice about teen withholding.

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Alright I need to apologize and eat my words about Claimyr. After struggling for 2 more days trying to get actual help from the IRS, I gave in and tried the service. Got connected to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes who explained EXACTLY how my teen should fill out her W4. Turns out since she'll make under the standard deduction, she qualifies for exemption from withholding on line 4(d) of the W4. BUT the agent emphasized she'll still have FICA taxes taken out no matter what. The agent also explained she should file a return next year anyway to get back any federal income tax that might get withheld. Seriously saved me hours of frustration!

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Just a heads up from someone who's been through this - even if your teen is exempt from income tax, make sure they keep track of their earnings for Social Security purposes! My son didn't file for his first two years of working (he made under the threshold), but years later when we checked his Social Security earnings record, those years weren't credited. Having a record of work history can be beneficial for them later in life, even if no tax is owed.

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Wait really? I thought Social Security credits were automatic based on payroll taxes. So even if they don't file a tax return, won't their work still count towards Social Security since FICA is withheld from every paycheck?

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You're right that FICA taxes should automatically report to Social Security, but in our case there was some kind of error. When my son checked his record later, those early years weren't showing up. Filing a tax return creates an additional official record of employment income that can help correct such errors. It also establishes a paper trail if questions ever come up about their work history.

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My daughter started working at 16 and we didnt know what to do either! Pro tip: use tax software next year even if she doesnt technically need to file. My daughter filed using the free version of TurboTax and got back like $300 that had been withheld from her paychecks over the summer. The software walks you through everything and she actually learned alot about taxes. Its a good habit to start early!

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Does tax software handle dependent teens correctly though? I've heard horror stories about people claiming themselves when they shouldn't...

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One thing no one mentioned - check if your state has different rules! My son worked in New Jersey last year and even though he was exempt from federal withholding, NJ still required state income tax withholding and filing. He still got most of it back but we were surprised that the rules were different. Each state has its own minimum filing requirements that might be lower than federal.

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That's a really good point about state differences! I'll definitely look up Illinois specific rules. Did your son have to file both federal and state returns even though he was exempt from federal?

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Yes, he ended up filing both returns. The federal return showed no tax liability (and he got back the small amount that was mistakenly withheld), while the state return had a small tax amount but he still got a partial refund. Filing the federal return even though it wasn't technically required made the state filing process much easier, as many states use information from the federal return. Plus it was good practice for him to learn how the whole system works!

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This thread has been so helpful! I'm a CPA who works with a lot of families, and I just wanted to add one more consideration that often gets overlooked. Since your daughter is earning income from wages, she should also start thinking about opening her own savings account if she hasn't already. This is a great opportunity to teach her about setting aside money for taxes (even if she won't owe any this year), building an emergency fund, and maybe even starting to save for college. Also, make sure she keeps all her pay stubs and tax documents organized - it's a good habit to start early. Even though she likely won't owe federal taxes this year, having good records will make filing much easier and help if there are ever any questions about her earnings. The financial responsibility lessons she learns now will serve her well throughout her life!

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Thanks everyone for all this great advice! As a parent of a teen who just started working, this has been incredibly educational. I had no idea about the distinction between federal income tax exemption and still having to pay FICA taxes - that's really important to understand. One thing I'm curious about that I haven't seen mentioned yet: if my daughter does claim exempt from federal withholding now, but then ends up earning more than expected (maybe picks up extra shifts during the holidays), can she submit a new W4 mid-year to start having taxes withheld again? I want to make sure we're not stuck with the initial decision if her income situation changes. Also, for those who mentioned filing a return even when not required - is there a deadline for doing this? Like, does she have to file by April 15th even if she doesn't owe anything, or is it more flexible since it's voluntary?

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Great questions! Yes, your daughter can absolutely submit a new W4 at any time during the year if her income situation changes. If she starts earning more than expected and wants to have federal taxes withheld to avoid owing at tax time, she can just fill out a new W4 and give it to her employer. There's no penalty for updating it - in fact, it's encouraged when circumstances change! As for filing deadlines, since she wouldn't be required to file (assuming she stays under the standard deduction), she actually has up to 3 years from the original due date to file a return and claim any refund. So if she had taxes withheld in 2025, she could file anytime before April 15, 2029 to get that money back. But honestly, I'd recommend filing by the normal April 15th deadline anyway - it's good practice and keeps everything organized!

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As someone who went through this exact situation with my nephew last year, I wanted to share a few practical tips that really helped us navigate the W4 confusion: First, don't stress too much about getting it "perfect" right away - you can always adjust! We initially had him claim exempt since he was making under $12,000, but when he picked up extra holiday shifts and his projected income went up, we just submitted a new W4 to start withholding a small amount. One thing that really helped was having him calculate his expected annual income based on his hourly rate and typical hours per week. This gave us a clearer picture of whether the exemption made sense. At $10k projected income, your daughter should definitely be fine claiming exempt from federal withholding. Also, I'd suggest having her set aside a small portion of each paycheck in a separate savings account - even though she won't owe federal income tax, it's great practice for when she's older and will have tax obligations. Plus it helps her understand the concept of "paying yourself first." The learning experience has been just as valuable as the money she's earning. She now understands the difference between gross and net pay, what FICA taxes are, and why tax planning matters. These are life skills that will serve her well!

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This is such great practical advice! I love the idea of having her calculate her expected annual income - that really puts things in perspective. The part about setting aside money even when she won't owe taxes is brilliant too. It's never too early to start building good financial habits. One question though - when you had your nephew submit a new W4 for the holiday shifts, did his employer give you any pushback? I'm wondering if some employers get confused when teens keep updating their withholding status. Want to prepare my daughter for any potential questions from her manager at the ice cream shop!

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I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! My 16-year-old just got hired at a local grocery store and we're totally lost on the W4 too. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea about the difference between being exempt from federal income tax vs still paying FICA taxes. One thing I'm wondering about that I haven't seen addressed yet - should we be concerned about her employer understanding teen tax rules? When we went in for her orientation, the HR person seemed unsure about how to handle a minor's W4 and kept saying "just put down what your parents tell you." I'm worried they might not be experienced with teenage workers and could give us bad advice. Also, has anyone had experience with teens working across state lines? We live right on the border and there are better job opportunities in the neighboring state. I'm curious if that would complicate things even more for her taxes next year. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world advice we needed!

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Great question about employers understanding teen tax rules! I had a similar experience when my daughter started working - the HR person at her first job seemed pretty confused about how to handle minors too. What I learned is that it's really not the employer's responsibility to give tax advice, they just need to process whatever you put on the W4 form. So don't rely on them for guidance - stick to the advice you're getting here or consult a tax professional if needed. As for working across state lines, that definitely adds complexity! Your daughter would likely need to file returns in both your home state and the state where she works, even if she doesn't owe taxes in either place. Each state has different rules about reciprocity agreements, withholding requirements, and filing thresholds. I'd strongly recommend checking with both states' tax departments or using one of those tax guidance tools others mentioned to make sure you understand the requirements before she starts working there. The good news is that most tax software can handle multi-state returns, and since her income will likely be low, she'll probably get back most or all of any taxes withheld in either state. But definitely factor in the extra paperwork and potential costs when deciding if those better job opportunities are worth the added complexity!

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This whole thread has been such a lifesaver! I'm dealing with the exact same situation with my 17-year-old who just started at a local restaurant. After reading everyone's advice, I feel much more confident about having her claim exempt from federal withholding since she'll definitely make under $12,950 this year. One thing I wanted to add that might help other parents - I called our state's Department of Revenue directly to ask about teen filing requirements, and they were actually super helpful! Turns out our state has a really low filing threshold (like $1,200 for dependents), so even though she won't owe federal taxes, she'll still need to file state. But the good news is she'll get back almost everything that gets withheld. Also, for anyone worried about the W4 form itself - the IRS actually has a really good withholding calculator on their website that walks you through the whole process step by step. We used it to double-check our decision to claim exempt and it confirmed we were on the right track. Thanks again everyone for sharing your experiences - it's so much better getting advice from parents who've actually been through this rather than trying to decode tax websites alone!

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This is such valuable information about calling the state Department of Revenue directly! I never would have thought to do that, but it makes perfect sense - they would know their specific rules better than anyone. The fact that your state has such a low filing threshold for dependents is really important to know. I'm definitely going to call our Illinois Department of Revenue tomorrow to get the specifics for our situation. And thanks for mentioning the IRS withholding calculator - I saw it mentioned on their website but wasn't sure if it would work for teens. It's great to know it helped confirm your exempt status decision. You're absolutely right about getting advice from parents who've actually navigated this! All the official tax websites make it sound so complicated, but hearing real experiences from people in the same boat makes it much more manageable. I feel like I actually understand what we need to do now instead of just being overwhelmed by tax jargon.

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Wow, this thread has been incredibly helpful! As a newcomer to this community and someone dealing with teenage tax questions for the first time, I'm amazed by how supportive and knowledgeable everyone is here. My 16-year-old just started working at a local bookstore, and I was completely overwhelmed trying to figure out the W4 situation. After reading through all these responses, I feel so much more confident! The explanation about the difference between federal income tax exemption and FICA taxes was particularly eye-opening - I had no idea those were separate things. I think we'll go with claiming exempt from federal withholding since she'll definitely be under the $12,950 threshold, but I'm definitely going to call our state's department of revenue like Tyrone suggested to understand the state-specific rules. One quick question for the group - has anyone dealt with a teen who might work seasonal jobs at different employers throughout the year? My daughter is thinking about picking up holiday work at a retail store in addition to her bookstore job. I'm wondering if that complicates the W4 situation at all, or if each employer handles withholding independently based on what she puts on their individual forms. Thanks so much to everyone who shared their experiences - this community is such a valuable resource for navigating these confusing tax situations!

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Welcome to the community, Keisha! It's great to see how helpful everyone has been with these teenage tax questions. Regarding your question about multiple employers throughout the year - yes, each employer handles withholding independently based on the W4 your daughter submits to them. So if she claims exempt from federal withholding at both the bookstore and the seasonal retail job, both employers will process that separately. The key thing to remember is that her total income from ALL jobs combined needs to stay under that $12,950 threshold for the exemption to remain valid. If she thinks the combined income from both jobs might push her over the standard deduction amount, she could always submit different W4s to each employer - maybe claim exempt at one and have a small amount withheld at the other, just to be safe. Or she can monitor her total earnings throughout the year and submit a new W4 if needed. The important thing is that come tax time next year, she'll report ALL her income from every employer on one tax return, so keeping good records from both jobs will be essential. Most teens I know in similar situations just keep it simple and claim exempt at both jobs since their total earnings usually stay well under the threshold anyway. Hope this helps, and welcome again to the community!

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Thank you all for this incredibly detailed and helpful discussion! As someone who's been lurking in this community for a while but never posted, I finally had to jump in because this is exactly what I needed to see. My 17-year-old son just got his first job at a local pizza place, and I've been stressing about the W4 for weeks. Reading through everyone's experiences has been so reassuring - especially learning that it's okay to start with claiming exempt and adjust later if needed. I had no idea you could submit a new W4 anytime during the year! The advice about keeping detailed records really resonates with me too. I think I'm going to help him set up a simple spreadsheet to track his earnings and maybe even have him save a small percentage of each paycheck like Sophia suggested. Even though he won't owe taxes, building those financial habits early seems so valuable. One thing that really stood out to me was Henry's point about filing a return even when not required - I never thought about the educational value of that. It sounds like going through the process, even with tax software, could be a great learning experience for him. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences. This community is such a great resource for parents navigating these confusing situations!

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Welcome to the community, Oliver! I'm so glad you decided to jump in and share - that's exactly what makes this place so valuable for all of us dealing with these parenting challenges. Your idea about setting up a spreadsheet to track earnings is fantastic! I did something similar with my daughter when she started working, and it really helped her understand how taxes work in practice. We included columns for gross pay, FICA taxes withheld, federal withholding (which was zero since she claimed exempt), and net pay. It made the whole concept much more concrete for her. The educational aspect of filing a return even when not required really can't be overstated. Even though it might seem like extra work, having your son go through the process will demystify taxes for him in a way that no classroom lesson could. Plus, if any federal income tax accidentally gets withheld despite claiming exempt, he'll get it back as a refund - which is always exciting for a teenager! One tip from our experience: have him keep a photo of each paystub on his phone as backup documentation. Kids can be notorious for losing paperwork, but they never lose their phones! It saved us when one of his physical paystubs went missing right before tax season. Best of luck with his first job - it's such an exciting milestone!

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I'm so grateful to have found this discussion! My 16-year-old daughter just started working at a local coffee shop, and I've been completely lost on how to help her with her W4. Reading through everyone's experiences has given me so much clarity and confidence. What really struck me is how many parents are in the exact same boat - it's reassuring to know we're not alone in feeling overwhelmed by teenage tax situations! The distinction between federal income tax exemption and FICA taxes was a huge lightbulb moment for me. I had been telling my daughter she wouldn't pay any taxes at all, but now I understand she'll still have Social Security and Medicare taxes taken out regardless. Based on all the advice here, I think we'll have her claim exempt from federal withholding since she'll definitely make under $12,950 this year working part-time. But I'm definitely going to follow Tyrone's suggestion and call our state's Department of Revenue to understand the state-specific requirements. I also love the idea of using this as a teaching moment - having her track her earnings and maybe even file a return next year for the educational value. These are exactly the kind of life skills she needs to learn, and starting with her first job seems perfect. Thank you to everyone who shared their real experiences and practical advice. This community is such a wonderful resource for navigating these parenting challenges!

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Welcome to the community, Emily! It's wonderful to see another parent finding clarity through this discussion. You're absolutely right that so many of us are navigating this for the first time - it really helps to know we're not alone in feeling overwhelmed by all the tax rules and forms! Your plan sounds perfect - claiming exempt from federal withholding for your daughter's coffee shop job makes complete sense given her projected income level. And yes, definitely call your state's Department of Revenue! I was surprised by how helpful and patient they were when I called about my own teen's situation. They really know their specific rules inside and out. One small tip from my experience: when your daughter gets her first paycheck, take a moment to go through it line by line with her. Show her exactly where the FICA taxes are being deducted and explain what Social Security and Medicare are. Even though these concepts might seem abstract to a 16-year-old, seeing the actual numbers on her paycheck makes it much more real and understandable. The financial literacy aspect of this whole experience has been just as valuable as the income for our family. These early work experiences really are the perfect foundation for teaching lifelong money management skills!

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As a newcomer to this community, I just want to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! I'm dealing with the exact same situation - my 15-year-old just started working at a local retail store and I was completely confused about the W4 form. Reading through everyone's experiences has been so educational. I had no idea about the difference between federal income tax exemption and FICA taxes - I thought if she claimed exempt, she wouldn't pay any taxes at all! Now I understand she'll still have Social Security and Medicare taxes withheld no matter what. The practical advice about being able to submit a new W4 anytime during the year is also really reassuring. I was worried we'd be locked into whatever decision we made initially, but knowing we can adjust if her income situation changes takes a lot of pressure off. I'm definitely going to follow the suggestions here about having her track her earnings and maybe even file a return next year for the educational value. It seems like such a great opportunity to teach financial responsibility and help her understand how the tax system works. Thank you to everyone who shared their real-world experiences and took the time to explain things in plain language. This community is such a valuable resource for parents trying to navigate these confusing situations!

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Welcome to the community, Natasha! I'm so glad you found this discussion helpful - it's exactly why I love being part of this group. When I first joined, I was in the same position with my own teenager and felt completely overwhelmed by all the tax terminology and forms. Your understanding about the FICA taxes is spot-on now - that's probably the most common misconception parents have when their teens start working. Even claiming exempt from federal income tax, she'll still see those Social Security and Medicare deductions on every paycheck, which actually helps build her future benefits! One thing I'd add based on my experience: consider having your daughter open her own checking account if she hasn't already. It's a great way to help her learn banking basics while keeping her work income separate from any allowance or gift money. Many banks have special teen accounts with no fees that can be really helpful for teaching financial responsibility. The flexibility of being able to update the W4 throughout the year really is a game-changer. We ended up adjusting my daughter's withholding twice during her first year of working as we got a better sense of her actual hours and earnings. Don't stress about getting it perfect right away! Keep us posted on how things go with her first job - we're all here to help if any other questions come up!

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As a newcomer to this community, I have to say this thread has been absolutely invaluable! My 16-year-old just started her first job at a local movie theater, and I was completely lost when it came to helping her with the W4 form. What really helped me understand the situation was learning about the $12,950 standard deduction threshold - knowing that she can claim exempt from federal withholding if she'll earn less than that amount takes so much stress out of the decision. The clarification about FICA taxes still being withheld regardless was also crucial - I was mistakenly thinking "exempt" meant no taxes at all! I'm planning to use several of the suggestions from this thread: having her track her earnings in a simple spreadsheet, calling our state's Department of Revenue to understand state-specific filing requirements, and most importantly, treating this as a learning opportunity to teach her about financial responsibility. One question I have that I didn't see addressed - if she claims exempt now but then gets a second job later in the year (maybe summer work at a different place), should she claim exempt at both employers or be more conservative with the second W4? I want to make sure we don't accidentally under-withhold if her combined income approaches that $12,950 threshold. Thank you all for sharing your experiences so openly - this community is such a wonderful resource for parents navigating these milestone moments!

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Welcome to the community, Isabel! Your question about handling multiple jobs throughout the year is really smart planning. Based on what I've learned from this discussion and my own experience, you have a few good options when it comes to that second job. If you're confident that her combined income from both the movie theater and any summer job will still be well under $12,950, then claiming exempt at both employers should be fine. Each employer processes W4s independently, so they don't know about her other income when calculating withholding. However, if you want to be extra cautious (especially since summer jobs sometimes offer more hours than expected), you could have her claim exempt at the movie theater but have some federal tax withheld at the summer job. This creates a small buffer in case her total earnings end up higher than projected. The great news is that if any federal income tax gets withheld but she ends up under the standard deduction, she'll get it all back when she files her return next year. So being slightly conservative with withholding won't hurt her - it just means a bigger refund later! Keep track of her total earnings from both jobs throughout the year, and remember you can always submit a new W4 to either employer if you need to adjust. The flexibility really takes the pressure off getting it perfect from the start.

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