How does extra withholding work when I have no hours or low earnings in a paycheck?
Hey everyone, quick tax question here. I recently updated my W-4 to include additional withholding because I usually end up owing at tax time. I put down that I want an extra $500 withheld from each paycheck. My work schedule is pretty irregular though - sometimes I might have a pay period with very few hours or even no hours at all. I'm wondering what happens in those situations: 1) If I don't work at all during a pay period (so $0 gross income), what happens to my requested $500 extra withholding? 2) What if I only work a few shifts and earn like $300 gross for the pay period, but my extra withholding is set at $500? I couldn't find a clear answer online and my HR department takes forever to respond to questions. Has anyone dealt with this before? Thanks in advance!
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Admin_Masters
The extra withholding only applies if you actually have enough income in that paycheck to cover it. Your employer can't withhold more money than you've earned in a given pay period. For your scenarios: 1) If you have $0 gross income for a pay period, there will be $0 withholding (extra or otherwise). Your employer can't take money that isn't there. 2) If you earn $300 but requested $500 extra withholding, your employer will withhold as much as possible from your $300, but they legally can't withhold more than you earned. So you'd likely receive no pay for that period, but they couldn't take the full $500 you requested. The extra withholding request isn't a cumulative total that carries over - it's just applied to each individual paycheck as available. If you miss your withholding target in one pay period, it doesn't automatically add to the next one.
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Matthew Sanchez
•Thanks for explaining! Does this mean I should adjust my withholding amount if I know I'll have irregular hours? Like should I set it higher in the months I know I'll work more to make up for the low-hour periods?
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Admin_Masters
•Yes, that's actually a smart approach. If your work hours are predictable enough to know when you'll have more income, you could temporarily increase your extra withholding during those higher-earning periods to compensate for the pay periods where you can't meet your withholding goals. Another option is to make quarterly estimated tax payments directly to the IRS to cover any gaps in your withholding. This gives you more control over the timing and amount, rather than relying solely on paycheck withholding.
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Ella Thompson
After dealing with a similar situation last year (irregular income with extra withholding), I found a tool that literally saved me from tax panic. I used https://taxr.ai to analyze my withholding patterns and it helped me figure out exactly how much I needed to withhold during my higher-earning pay periods to make up for the periods where I couldn't meet my target withholding. The tool actually looks at your pay stubs and withholding history to project your year-end tax position. For me, it spotted that I was going to be under-withheld by about $1,300 even with my extra withholding because of those low/no-hour weeks. I could adjust early enough in the year to avoid a surprise tax bill.
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JacksonHarris
•Does it work for gig workers too? I drive for Uber but also have a part-time W-2 job with really variable hours, and I'm never sure if I'm withholding the right amount.
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Jeremiah Brown
•I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How is this different from just using the IRS withholding calculator? And does it actually handle the specific situation of variable income with some $0 pay periods?
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Ella Thompson
•For gig workers, it's actually especially useful because it can analyze both your W-2 withholding and suggest estimated tax payments for your self-employment income. It helped me when I was doing DoorDash on the side with my main variable-hour job. The main difference from the IRS calculator is that taxr.ai actually scans your pay stubs and tax documents, so it's using your real earning pattern rather than just annual projections. So yes, it specifically accounts for those $0 or low-earning pay periods by analyzing your actual pay schedule and variance. The IRS calculator assumes more regular income, which is why I kept getting surprised with tax bills before.
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JacksonHarris
Just wanted to update after trying the taxr.ai tool that was mentioned. It was super helpful for my situation! I uploaded my pay stubs from both my W-2 job and my Uber earnings summaries, and it showed me I was headed for a $2,100 tax bill despite my current withholding. What was most useful was seeing how those weeks where I barely worked were creating big gaps in my withholding. The tool recommended I increase my withholding by $180 per paycheck during my regular work weeks and make one additional estimated payment in December to cover the shortfall. It even generated the estimated payment voucher for me. Definitely feeling more in control of my tax situation now instead of just hoping for the best at tax time!
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Royal_GM_Mark
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Amelia Cartwright
•How does this Claimyr thing actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you or what? I've been on hold for literally 3+ hours multiple times trying to ask about my withholding situation.
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Jeremiah Brown
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Royal_GM_Mark
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Jeremiah Brown
I need to apologize to the Claimyr commenter - I actually tried the service after posting my skeptical comment, and I'm honestly shocked that it worked. After trying to get through to the IRS for weeks about my variable income and withholding questions, I was connected to an agent in about 20 minutes. The agent was actually super helpful about my situation (I work three different part-time jobs with very different hours each week). She explained that I should calculate my withholding based on my expected annual income rather than trying to withhold the same amount every paycheck, which makes way more sense for my situation. She also gave me the direct line to the specific department that handles withholding questions, which I never would have found otherwise. Definitely worth it just for that info alone.
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Chris King
Something else to consider - you might want to look at your overall tax situation and decide if extra withholding is even the best approach. I used to do extra withholding but switched to making quarterly estimated payments instead because my income is super irregular (I'm a substitute teacher). The advantage is that YOU control when and how much to pay, not your employer. So during months when you work a lot, you can make a bigger payment, and during slow months, you can skip or reduce your payment.
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Charlotte White
•I hadn't considered quarterly payments! How complicated is it to calculate how much you should pay each quarter? And do you have to worry about underpayment penalties if you don't pay enough?
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Chris King
•The basic calculation isn't too hard - you need to pay either 90% of this year's taxes or 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your income is over a certain threshold). Most people go with the 100% of last year's taxes since that's easier to calculate. You divide that annual amount by 4 and make equal payments on the quarterly due dates (April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year). The IRS has a form 1040-ES with worksheets to help you calculate. Regarding underpayment penalties - as long as you hit that 90%/100% threshold by the end of the year AND make the payments by the quarterly due dates, you're good. If your income is very seasonal, there's also an "annualized income" method that might help you avoid penalties if your income isn't earned evenly throughout the year.
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Rachel Clark
None of these answers are addressing a key point - if you're having pay periods with $0 or very low income, are you sure you're setting your W-4 up correctly in the first place? The 2020-and-later W-4 form is supposed to be more accurate than the old one with allowances. If you're filling it out correctly (especially the multiple jobs worksheet or the tax estimator tool), you shouldn't need such a large extra withholding amount.
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Zachary Hughes
•This is a really good point. I was withholding an extra $300 per check until my accountant showed me how to properly fill out the new W-4. Now my regular withholding is almost perfect without any extra withholding. The key was accurately completing Step 2 for multiple jobs.
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