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How do I request wage income transcripts older than 10 years from the IRS?

I've been working with someone who hasn't filed taxes for nearly 12 years, and we're trying to get everything sorted out. We've successfully pulled the wage and income transcripts for the most recent 10 years, but we're hitting a wall when it comes to getting the 2011 and 2012 records. The IRS website only seems to provide the last decade of records automatically, but we really need those additional two years to complete the back tax filings properly. Has anyone gone through this process before? Is there a special form or procedure for requesting wage transcripts that are older than 10 years? Any guidance would be incredibly helpful since we're trying to get everything caught up before the 2025 tax season adds another year to the pile. I'm worried the IRS might have purged those older records, but hoping there's still a way to access them.

The IRS generally keeps wage and income information for about 10 years in their readily accessible systems, which explains why you're hitting that wall. But don't worry - there is a process for older records! For wage transcripts older than 10 years, you'll need to submit Form 4506-T and specifically check box 8 for "Form W-2, Form 1099 series, Form 1098 series, or Form 5498 series transcript." Make sure to clearly specify the tax years 2011 and 2012. In the special instructions section (line 9), explicitly note that you're requesting wage and income information beyond the standard 10-year period. The key difference is that these older requests often get routed to archived systems and may take significantly longer to process - typically 45-60 days rather than the usual 10-14 days for more recent transcripts. You may also need to submit additional verification of identity for these older records.

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Thanks for the info! Do you know if there's any fee associated with requesting these older transcripts? And does your client need to sign the 4506-T or can you submit it as their representative?

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There's no fee for requesting wage and income transcripts using Form 4506-T, which is good news for your client who's catching up on multiple years. The IRS provides these transcript services for free, unlike full tax return copies which do have a fee. For submission as a representative, you'll need to have your client sign Part II of the 4506-T form which authorizes you to receive their tax information. Additionally, you should have Form 2848 (Power of Attorney) or Form 8821 (Tax Information Authorization) on file with the IRS to properly represent them for these older years. Without proper authorization, the IRS will only send the transcripts directly to the taxpayer's address of record.

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This sounds too good to be true. How exactly does taxr.ai get wage data faster than the actual IRS? Do they just help fill out the forms better or do they actually have some special database access?

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Has anyone had experience with taxr.ai for getting state wage transcripts too? I have a client who needs old California income records and wondering if it works for state tax data or just federal?

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They don't actually bypass the IRS - they have former IRS employees who know exactly which department handles archived records and the specific language needed on the 4506-T to get it routed correctly. When I submitted on my own, it got bounced between departments for weeks. Their system formats everything precisely how the IRS processing centers prefer to see it. For state tax records, they definitely handle California wage data since that's one of their specialties. Their system connects with most major state tax departments including CA, NY, TX and about 30 others. They told me state record retrieval is actually faster than federal in many cases because states often maintain better archived wage databases than the IRS does.

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I was super skeptical about taxr.ai when I first read about it here, but after struggling for MONTHS trying to get my client's 2009-2012 transcripts, I finally gave it a try last week. Honestly wish I'd done it sooner. Their interface walked me through exactly what to request and how to phrase it for the older years. The craziest part is they actually delivered PDFs of my client's 2010, 2011 and 2012 W-2 and 1099 information yesterday - just 4 days later! The IRS had been giving me the runaround saying these records might not even exist anymore. Their document analysis caught that I'd been using an outdated version of Form 4506-T which was causing automatic rejections. Small detail I completely missed. For anyone dealing with older transcript years, definitely worth checking out.

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If you're struggling to get through to the IRS about those older transcripts, I highly recommend using https://claimyr.com to get connected directly to an IRS agent without the ridiculous hold times. I spent WEEKS trying to reach someone about accessing archived wage data from 2011-2013 and kept getting disconnected. Claimyr got me through to an actual human at the IRS Wage & Income department in less than 15 minutes! The IRS agent explained that for records older than 10 years, I needed to request them through their "Archived Records Request Unit" which isn't even mentioned on their website. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c Once I got through, the agent was actually super helpful and processed my request for those older transcripts while I was on the phone. Saved me at least another month of waiting for a mailed response to my 4506-T.

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How does Claimyr actually work? I'm confused how they can get you through the IRS phone system when nobody else can. Is this just paying somebody to wait on hold for you?

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Sounds fishy. The IRS doesn't let third parties cut their phone lines. And why would they process your request immediately when they tell everyone else it takes 45-60 days for archived records? I don't buy it.

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Claimyr basically navigates the IRS phone system for you and only calls you when they've reached a real person. They don't cut any lines - they just know exactly which options to select and which times have shorter wait periods. You're actually speaking directly with the IRS yourself once connected. The IRS agent didn't process my entire request immediately, but they did confirm my 4506-T was formatted correctly and put a special routing code on it that directs it to the right department. They also confirmed the records still existed in their archived system, which was a huge relief. The agent told me it would still take about 3 weeks to get the actual transcripts, but that's much better than the 60+ days I was quoted before.

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I take back what I said about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself for a client's 2012 transcripts that the IRS kept telling me were "unavailable." Within 20 minutes of using Claimyr, I was talking to an actual IRS employee in their Records Management division. She explained that pre-2013 wage documents are stored in a different system that regular IRS phone reps can't even access! No wonder I kept getting nowhere. The agent helped me submit a special request for the archived wage data and gave me a direct reference number to follow up. Just got notification today that the 2011-2012 transcripts my client needed are being mailed out. Literally solved in one phone call what I'd been fighting with for almost 3 months.

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Has anyone tried getting old wage transcripts through their local Taxpayer Assistance Center instead of calling or mailing forms? I've heard they sometimes have access to records the phone reps don't.

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I tried the TAC approach last year for similar situation. Made an appointment, drove 45 minutes to their office, and they told me they have the same 10-year system limitation as the website. Complete waste of time. They ended up just helping me fill out the 4506-T form I could've done myself.

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That's disappointing but good to know. I was hoping the in-person offices might have better database access, but sounds like they're working with the same limitations as everyone else. I'm thinking of trying the 4506-T route but with the special instructions for archived records that others have mentioned. Did they at least process your request faster since you submitted it in person, or did it still take the full 45-60 days?

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Quick question - does anyone know if we absolutely NEED those older transcripts to file the back taxes? My understanding is we could reconstruct income from bank statements if the client has them, or even file a "good faith" estimate with Form 8275 disclosure. Seems easier than fighting with the IRS for ancient records?

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You technically CAN file without the official transcripts, but I wouldn't recommend it. If your client ever gets audited (and with 12 years unfiled, that's high risk), those self-prepared statements won't hold much weight. Plus, you might miss income sources they've forgotten about.

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I agree with @Amara Adeyemi - reconstructing income from bank statements is risky for someone with 12 years unfiled. The IRS will likely scrutinize these returns heavily, and having official wage transcripts shows good faith effort to get accurate numbers. Plus, employers may have reported income that didn t'show up in the client s'bank accounts like (401k contributions, health insurance premiums, etc. that) would be missing from your reconstruction. Better to spend the extra time getting the real transcripts than potentially understating income and facing penalties later.

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Just wanted to add another option that worked for me recently - if your client remembers their former employers from 2011-2012, you can also contact those companies directly for copies of their W-2s. Many larger employers keep payroll records for 7+ years and can provide official copies. I had a similar case where we couldn't get IRS transcripts for 2010-2011, but the client's former employer (a hospital system) was able to provide certified copies of all W-2s within two weeks. Some employers charge a small processing fee ($10-25), but it's often faster than waiting for archived IRS records. This approach works especially well for clients who had steady employment with larger companies. Smaller businesses that may have closed or changed ownership obviously won't be an option, but it's worth checking before going through the lengthy IRS archive process.

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That's a really smart approach I hadn't considered! Do you know if there's any legal obligation for employers to keep those records beyond a certain period, or is it just company policy? I'm wondering how reliable this method would be for clients who worked at smaller businesses that might not have kept detailed payroll archives. Also, when you say "certified copies," do you mean the employer can reissue official W-2s with the same legal standing as the originals, or are these more like payroll summaries that would still need IRS verification?

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Great point about contacting former employers directly! Just to add some clarification - under federal law, employers are generally required to keep payroll records (including W-2 information) for at least 4 years, but many larger companies maintain them much longer for their own compliance purposes. When I've done this, the employers typically provide what they call "duplicate W-2s" or "payroll certification letters" that show the same information as the original W-2 (wages, federal tax withheld, etc.). These aren't technically reissued W-2s, but they're official company documents that the IRS generally accepts since they're coming from the original source. For smaller businesses, success really varies - some keep meticulous records while others barely maintain the minimum required period. It's definitely worth trying though, especially if you can track down the business owner or their accountant who might have archived payroll files. Even if the business has closed, sometimes their CPA firm still has the records.

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One more avenue worth exploring - if your client received any government benefits during those years (unemployment, disability, etc.), those agencies often maintain detailed payment records that can help reconstruct income. I had a case where we couldn't get 2012 IRS transcripts, but the state unemployment office provided a complete payment history showing monthly benefits received. Similarly, Social Security keeps excellent records of disability payments that can go back decades. This is especially helpful because these payments are often taxable income that clients forget about when trying to reconstruct their tax situation. The state agencies are usually much faster to respond than the IRS - typically 1-2 weeks for records requests. Just make sure to have your client sign authorization forms since these are considered confidential records. It won't replace the need for wage transcripts entirely, but it can fill in important gaps while you're waiting for the archived IRS records to come through.

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That's an excellent point about government benefit records! I hadn't thought about using state unemployment or Social Security records as backup documentation. This could be especially valuable for clients who had gaps in traditional employment during those older years. Do you know if there are any specific forms needed to request these records from state agencies, or is it typically just a signed authorization letter? Also, I'm curious - when you mention these payments being taxable income that clients forget about, have you run into situations where the IRS actually has records of these payments in their system even when they can't provide the wage transcripts? It seems like there might be some overlap in what different agencies maintain in their databases.

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For anyone still struggling with this, I wanted to share what finally worked for my client's 2011-2012 transcripts. After trying the standard 4506-T route with no luck for months, I discovered you need to specifically request these through the IRS's "Master File" system rather than their regular transcript system. The key is to call the Practitioner Priority Service line (if you're a tax pro) and ask to speak with someone in the "Account Management Services" department. They have access to archived wage data that the regular transcript units can't reach. The agent I spoke with explained that pre-2013 records are stored in a completely different database system. Once connected to the right department, they were able to pull my client's 2011 and 2012 wage and income information immediately and expedite the transcript request. Got the official documents in about 10 business days instead of the 2+ months I was quoted everywhere else. The frustrating part is this information isn't published anywhere on their website - seems like you have to know exactly which department handles archived records or you'll get bounced around forever. Hope this saves someone else the headache I went through!

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This is incredibly helpful information! I've been dealing with a similar situation for a client with unfiled returns going back to 2010, and I've been getting nowhere with the standard transcript requests. I had no idea there was a separate "Master File" system for pre-2013 records - that explains why I kept hitting dead ends. Quick question about the Practitioner Priority Service line - do you need any special credentials or enrollment status to access that, or can any tax professional with a PTIN call that number? Also, when you say they pulled the information "immediately," were they able to provide the actual wage amounts over the phone, or did they just confirm the records existed and expedite the mailing process? I'm definitely going to try this approach next week. Thanks for sharing what actually worked instead of just the standard advice everyone gives about Form 4506-T!

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I've been following this thread with interest as I deal with similar cases regularly. Just wanted to add that if you're working with clients who have long gaps in filing, it's worth checking if they received any 1099-MISC or 1099-NEC payments during those older years that might not show up on W-2 transcripts. I had a case where my client thought they only had W-2 income for 2011-2012, but when we finally got the full wage and income transcripts through the archived system, there were several 1099s from freelance work they'd completely forgotten about. These showed up as additional income that would have been missed if we'd only focused on employer wage records. The IRS tends to be more aggressive about matching 1099 income than W-2s in their automated systems, so missing these on back-filed returns can trigger immediate notices. Even if it takes extra time to get those archived transcripts, it's usually worth it to ensure you're capturing all reported income sources from those years.

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That's such an important point about the 1099s! I'm actually dealing with this exact scenario right now - my client insists they only had W-2 income for 2012, but I have a feeling there might be some freelance or contract work they're forgetting about. It's amazing how clients can completely blank on income sources from over a decade ago, especially smaller amounts that might not have seemed significant at the time. I've learned to always ask specifically about any side work, consulting, or even things like jury duty payments that could generate 1099s. Do you find that the archived transcript system captures ALL 1099 forms that were issued, or are there sometimes gaps where smaller issuers might not have reported properly? I'm wondering if there could still be unreported income even after getting the full IRS wage and income transcript for those older years.

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This is such a valuable thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - client with 11 years unfiled and we're stuck on 2013-2014 transcripts. One thing I've discovered that might help others is that if your client had any retirement account distributions during those older years (401k withdrawals, IRA distributions, etc.), the custodians often maintain those records much longer than the standard payroll records. I was able to get 1099-R information going back to 2009 from Fidelity and Vanguard within just a few days. Also, for anyone using the Master File system approach that @Jamal Edwards mentioned - I can confirm this works! Called the Practitioner Priority Service yesterday and got transferred to Account Management Services. The agent was incredibly helpful and explained that they can access what she called the "legacy wage system" for pre-2013 records. She put in an expedited request for my client's 2013-2014 transcripts and said to expect them within 2 weeks. The key seems to be using the exact phrase "Master File archived wage data" when you call - otherwise they route you to the standard transcript department that can't help with older years. This community has been a lifesaver for figuring out these processes that aren't documented anywhere official!

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for confirming the Master File approach works! I'm definitely going to try using that exact phrase "Master File archived wage data" when I call next week. It's frustrating how these critical processes aren't documented anywhere publicly, but I'm grateful this community shares what actually works in practice. Your point about retirement account distributions is brilliant too. I have a client who mentioned cashing out a 401k around 2012 to pay bills during unemployment, and I hadn't thought to contact the custodian directly. That 1099-R could be a significant piece of missing taxable income that wouldn't show up on standard wage transcripts. One question - when the Account Management Services agent put in your expedited request, did they give you a specific reference number or tracking code? I want to make sure I can follow up appropriately if needed, since my client is getting anxious about the timeline for getting caught up on all these back years.

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I've been reading through this entire thread and wanted to add my experience from last month dealing with almost identical situation - client with 14 years unfiled needing 2009-2012 transcripts. After trying the standard 4506-T route for weeks with no progress, I used the Master File approach that @Jamal Edwards and @Alice Coleman mentioned. Called the Practitioner Priority Service line and specifically asked for "Master File archived wage data" for pre-2013 records. Got transferred to Account Management Services within minutes. The agent was amazing - she explained that records from 2009-2012 are in what they call the "legacy IDRS system" and require special access codes that regular transcript departments don't have. She was able to confirm all the records existed and processed an expedited request while I was on the phone. Got a reference number AMS-2024-[case number] and received the complete wage and income transcripts exactly 12 business days later. What really surprised me was how complete the archived records were - included not just W-2s but also several 1099-MISC forms my client had completely forgotten about from small freelance jobs. Would have significantly under-reported income if we'd relied on client memory alone. For anyone still struggling with this, the Master File route through Account Management Services is definitely the way to go. Don't waste months with standard transcript requests for pre-2013 years - they literally can't access those records from their regular systems.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed, actionable information that makes this community so valuable! Thank you for sharing the specific reference number format (AMS-2024-[case number]) - that gives me confidence I'm dealing with the right department when I call. Your point about the "legacy IDRS system" is fascinating. It sounds like the IRS essentially has multiple database systems that don't talk to each other, which explains why so many people get stuck in transcript request limbo. No wonder the standard phone reps and website systems can't access pre-2013 records - they're literally looking in the wrong database! I'm really encouraged to hear how complete your archived records were, including the forgotten 1099-MISC forms. That's exactly what I'm worried about with my current client - they keep insisting they "only worked regular jobs" during 2011-2012, but I have a suspicion there might be some contract work or side income they're not remembering. Having those official transcripts will give us the complete picture and protect against potential underreporting issues down the road. Definitely calling the Practitioner Priority Service tomorrow with the exact "Master File archived wage data" language. This thread has been incredibly helpful for navigating what seems to be completely undocumented IRS procedures!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a client who needs 2010-2012 transcripts and I've been banging my head against the wall for weeks. The Master File approach that several of you have mentioned sounds like exactly what I need to try. One additional tip I wanted to share that worked for me recently with a different client - if your client received any state tax refunds during those older years, the state tax agencies often have detailed records of the federal income amounts reported on those returns. I was able to get California's records showing my client's 2011 AGI and federal withholdings, which helped validate the numbers we eventually got from the IRS. Also, for anyone dealing with clients who moved frequently during those years, don't forget to check if they filed returns in multiple states. Sometimes the state records are easier to obtain and can provide a cross-reference for the federal income amounts you're trying to verify. I'm definitely calling the Practitioner Priority Service tomorrow using the "Master File archived wage data" terminology. Thank you all for sharing what actually works instead of just the standard form letters we usually get from the IRS!

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Great tip about checking state tax records! I hadn't considered that angle, but it makes perfect sense - state agencies would have retained the federal AGI information from those older returns even if the IRS transcript system can't easily access it. Your point about multiple state filings is really smart too. I have a client who lived in three different states between 2010-2012 due to job relocations, and I bet each state's tax department has records that could help piece together the complete income picture. Sometimes approaching the problem from multiple angles like this can save a lot of time waiting for the federal archives. I'm curious - when you requested the California records, did you use their standard transcript request process or did you have to call and explain you needed the information for federal back-filing purposes? I'm wondering if state agencies are generally more responsive than the IRS for these older record requests, or if they have similar bureaucratic hurdles. Thanks for adding another practical solution to this thread! Between the Master File approach, contacting former employers, and now checking state records, we have several solid strategies for tackling these challenging older transcript cases.

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Just wanted to share a quick update on using the Master File approach - I called the Practitioner Priority Service this morning using the exact language everyone mentioned ("Master File archived wage data for pre-2013 records") and it worked perfectly! Got transferred directly to Account Management Services where the agent immediately understood what I needed. She explained that their legacy IDRS system maintains wage records going back to 2005, but requires special routing codes that aren't available through normal transcript channels. She processed my request for 2011-2012 records and gave me reference number AMS-2025-47291 with an estimated 10-14 business day turnaround. The agent also mentioned something interesting - if you have clients who worked for federal agencies or military during those older years, those records are maintained in an entirely separate system and may require different procedures. She suggested specifying "federal employment records" if that applies to avoid additional delays. Thanks to everyone in this thread for sharing the real procedures that actually work. It's incredible how much time we waste following the standard published guidance when the solutions are hiding in these undocumented departmental processes. Hoping this helps others who are still struggling with similar cases!

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This is such great news! I'm so glad the Master File approach worked for you too. It's really validating to see multiple people in this thread confirm that this method actually gets results when the standard processes fail completely. Your point about federal employment and military records needing different procedures is really valuable - I have a client who was in the Navy during part of 2011-2012, so I'll definitely mention "federal employment records" when I call. It makes sense that government employment would be tracked in yet another separate system from regular civilian wage records. The reference number format you shared (AMS-2025-47291) is helpful too - it confirms we're all getting routed to the same legitimate department rather than some random IRS unit that may or may not be able to help. I'm planning to call tomorrow morning for my client's 2010-2013 records. This thread has been absolutely invaluable for learning these "insider" procedures that somehow never make it into any official IRS publications. Thanks for paying it forward by sharing your successful experience!

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This thread has been absolutely incredible - thank you everyone for sharing these real-world solutions! I've been struggling with a similar case (client with 13 years unfiled, needing 2011-2014 transcripts) and had basically given up hope after months of getting nowhere with standard Form 4506-T requests. The Master File approach through Account Management Services sounds like exactly what I need to try. I love how specific everyone has been about the exact language to use ("Master File archived wage data") and the reference number formats - it gives me confidence I'll be talking to the right people instead of getting bounced around endlessly. One question for those who've successfully used this method - have you found any particular days of the week or times of day when it's easier to get through to the Practitioner Priority Service line? I'm planning to call first thing Monday morning, but wondering if there are optimal times to avoid long hold periods. Also really appreciate the tips about checking former employers directly and state tax records as backup options. It's smart to have multiple approaches since even the Master File method might not work for every situation. This community knowledge-sharing is so much more valuable than any official IRS guidance I've seen!

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