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How can I adjust W4 withholdings at a new job for accurate tax withholding?

I'm about to start a new job in September and need some advice on how to fill out my W4 properly. Between September and January 1st, I'll be making roughly $24k at this new position. At my previous jobs this year, I've already earned about $28k and paid approximately $2800 in federal taxes. I'm also planning to sell some investments to use the 0% long-term capital gains tax bracket, which will give me about $9k in LTCG. So my total income for the year will be around $61k ($52k from W2 wages across 3 different employers + $9k in LTCG). I'm currently a student who can be claimed as a dependent on someone else's tax return. My goal is to fill out my W4 for this new job so I get as close to zero refund as possible when filing. I'll be taking the standard deduction. I have an appointment with a financial advisor soon but wanted to get some information ahead of time. Two main questions: 1) How do I calculate my actual tax liability for 2024? 2) What's the best way to complete my W4 to make sure I'm withholding the right amount for a near-zero refund when I file?

Your situation is pretty common for students working multiple jobs. For calculating your tax liability, you'll need to consider a few things: Since you can be claimed as a dependent, your standard deduction will be different - it's either $1,250 or your earned income plus $400 (whichever is more), up to the regular standard deduction amount. Based on your W2 income, you'll get the regular standard deduction. For your W4, use the multiple jobs worksheet (Step 2) since you've had more than one employer this year. You might also want to use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online - it's really helpful for situations like yours. Remember that your LTCG are taxed differently, and if you're truly in the 0% bracket for those, they won't increase your tax liability. The key is accounting for the income from all your W2 jobs on your new W4.

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Thanks, this is helpful! One question though - does the fact that I've already paid taxes at my previous jobs this year factor into how I should fill out the W4? And also, what about that extra section for additional withholding? Should I put a specific dollar amount there?

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The taxes you've already paid at previous jobs absolutely matter. That's why the IRS Withholding Estimator is so useful - you can input what you've already earned and paid in taxes, plus what you expect to earn for the rest of the year. This helps account for taxes already withheld. For the additional withholding section (Step 4c), you might want to use this if the multiple jobs worksheet suggests you'll be underwithholding. If you're concerned about underwithholding, you can specify an additional dollar amount to be withheld from each paycheck. The estimator will actually suggest an amount if needed.

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Another option is to use the IRS Withholding Estimator directly: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator Just make sure you have your most recent paystubs handy to enter accurate year-to-date information. And remember that as a dependent student, your standard deduction might be limited compared to someone who can't be claimed as a dependent.

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I tried using the IRS estimator but kept getting errors every time I entered my capital gains info. Has anyone else had this problem?

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The IRS estimator can definitely be finicky with capital gains. Make sure you're entering them as "other income" rather than earned income. Also, try using a different browser if you're getting technical errors - sometimes it works better in Chrome than Firefox or vice versa. If you're still having trouble, you might want to try a different calculator or just focus on your W2 income for the W4 calculations. Since your LTCG are in the 0% bracket anyway, they won't affect your withholding needs as much.

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Does anyone know if you can just use the W4 estimator and then add a flat additional amount on line 4(c)? Like if I know I need to have $500 more withheld total before the end of the year, and I have 10 paychecks left, can I just put $50 per check?

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Yes that's exactly what line 4(c) is for! I did this last year. Just divide the total additional amount you need withheld by your remaining paychecks and put that number on line 4(c). Super easy way to fine-tune your withholding.

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Perfect, that's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks for confirming! I'm going to do the math and adjust my withholding tomorrow.

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