How to properly fill out W-4 to avoid owing taxes at the end of the year
Title: How to properly fill out W-4 to avoid owing taxes at the end of the year 1 I'm feeling super frustrated after my last tax experience. I filed as single with no dependents and no additional income streams, but I somehow STILL ended up owing the IRS money! I selected 0 allowances thinking that would cover me, but obviously that didn't work. Now I'm starting a new position next month that's going to pay me twice what I made last year (which is awesome but also scary tax-wise). I really don't want another surprise tax bill next April. Do I need to have additional withholding since my salary is doubling? What's the right way to fill out the new W-4 form to make sure enough is taken out? I took 2023 off work-wise if that matters at all. Any advice would be super helpful because I'm clearly doing something wrong!
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Morgan Washington
15 The W-4 form changed significantly in 2020, so that might be part of your confusion. There are no longer allowances (the "0" you mentioned). Instead, the new form works differently. For someone in your situation (single, no dependents, only one job that's higher paying than before), here's what I'd recommend: Fill out Step 1 with your personal info and check the "Single" box in Step 1(c). Skip Step 2 since you only have one job. Skip Step 3 since you have no dependents. For Step 4, this is where you can request additional withholding. Since your salary is doubling, you might end up in a higher tax bracket, so adding some extra withholding in Step 4(c) could be smart - maybe $50-100 per paycheck depending on your total income. The key thing many people miss is that the W-4 assumes you'll work the entire year. Since you didn't work in 2023, your withholding will be calculated as if your new salary is spread across all of 2024, which could lead to underwithholding.
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Morgan Washington
•7 Thanks for the explanation. I'm still a bit confused though. If I'm making $85k at this new job, what specific dollar amount should I put for extra withholding in Step 4(c)? And does it matter that I'm starting mid-year rather than January?
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Morgan Washington
•15 For an $85k salary starting mid-year, you'll likely want around $75-100 extra withholding per paycheck. This helps account for two things: First, you're compressing a full year's salary into half a year, potentially pushing you into a higher tax bracket for those paychecks. Second, the withholding system is designed to spread your tax liability across the full year, but you'll only be working part of it. Starting mid-year definitely matters. The payroll system will withhold as if you're making $85k spread across the whole year (about $7,083/month). But since you're only working half the year, you'll actually receive about $42.5k total, making your monthly checks larger than if you worked the whole year at that salary. This can result in underwithholding if you don't account for it.
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Morgan Washington
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Morgan Washington
•18 Did it actually work though? Like did you end up owing nothing when you filed? I'm always skeptical of these online calculator things since they never seem to account for all the variables.
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Morgan Washington
•12 How does it handle state taxes? I'm in California and they always seem to be the ones I end up owing, not federal.
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Morgan Washington
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Morgan Washington
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Morgan Washington
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Morgan Washington
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Morgan Washington
•9 I've been trying to reach the IRS for 3 weeks about an audit notice. Does this actually work for serious tax issues or just basic stuff like payment plans?
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Morgan Washington
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Morgan Washington
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Morgan Washington
2 All this talk about additional withholding is fine, but have you considered adjusting your W-4 using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator? It's free and gives you really specific guidance on exactly how to fill out your W-4. Since you're starting mid-year with a higher salary, this would probably be the most accurate way to go. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator
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Morgan Washington
•19 I tried using that estimator thing last year and it was SUPER confusing. Asked for all kinds of info from my last paystub and tax return that I didn't have handy. Is there a simpler option?
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Morgan Washington
•2 The Tax Withholding Estimator is definitely thorough, which is why it's accurate, but I get that it can be overwhelming. A simpler option is to use the worksheets that come with the W-4 form itself - especially Worksheet 1-4 if you have a single job. For a real quick method without tools: if your annual salary is $85k as you mentioned in another comment, and you're starting mid-year, you could put about $100-150 extra withholding per paycheck in Step 4(c). That's a rough estimate that works for most people in your situation without having to go through all the calculations.
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Morgan Washington
5 One thing nobody's mentioned - if your new job offers a 401(k), put as much in there as you can afford! It reduces your taxable income which means less tax owed. I doubled my salary last year too and upped my 401(k) contribution to 15% and ended up with a refund instead of owing. Plus you're saving for retirement which is a win-win.
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Morgan Washington
•10 This is such good advice! HSA accounts too if your health plan is eligible. I max mine out every year ($3,850 for 2024 if you're single) and it's all tax-free money. Between that and my 401(k) I knocked my taxable income down by almost $27k last year.
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Tyrone Johnson
Great thread! As someone who went through this exact situation two years ago, I wanted to add that you should also consider quarterly estimated tax payments if your withholding still isn't enough. When I doubled my salary mid-year, even with extra withholding I was still projected to owe about $800. My accountant suggested making a small estimated payment in Q4 (January 15th deadline) to cover the gap. It's form 1040ES and you can pay online through EFTPS. This way you avoid any underpayment penalties and don't get hit with a big bill at filing time. Just another tool in your arsenal to make sure you're covered!
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Fatima Al-Rashid
•That's really smart advice about quarterly payments! I hadn't even thought about that option. Quick question - if I make an estimated payment in Q4, does that reduce what I need to put for extra withholding on my W-4? Like if I calculate I'll be short $1000 total, could I do $500 extra withholding and then a $500 estimated payment to split it up?
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