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Chloe Harris

How are SIC codes and NAICS codes assigned to new small businesses?

I'm planning to launch my pet grooming business next month and I've been doing tons of research about all the setup requirements. One thing that keeps coming up is SIC codes and NAICS codes. From what I understand, having the correct SIC code might actually help with getting business loans from banks? I'm not 100% clear on how these codes get assigned though. Do I pick one myself? Does the IRS assign it when I register my business? Is there an application process? I've found lists of these codes online but I'm confused about which one would be best for my situation. I want to make sure I get this right from the start so I don't run into funding issues later. Any insight from people who've gone through this process would be super helpful!

Diego Vargas

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The good news is that you don't need to wait for these codes to be "assigned" to you - you actually select them yourself when filling out various business registration forms. Both SIC (Standard Industrial Classification) and NAICS (North American Industry Classification System) codes are classification systems that categorize businesses by their economic activity. NAICS is the newer system that replaced SIC, though many institutions still use SIC codes. For your pet grooming business, you'd likely fall under NAICS code 812910 (Pet Care Services) and SIC code 0752 (Animal Specialty Services, except Veterinary). When you register your business with various government agencies or apply for loans, you'll typically be asked to provide these codes. You should choose the ones that most accurately reflect your primary business activity. Having the correct code is important because some lenders do offer specialized loan products for certain industries, and accurate classification helps with industry statistics too.

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NeonNinja

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Thanks for the explanation, but I'm still a bit confused. If I'm doing both pet grooming AND selling pet accessories in my shop, do I need multiple NAICS codes? Or just pick the one that represents most of my business? And do different government agencies use different systems?

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Diego Vargas

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You should select the code that represents your primary business activity - the one that will generate the most revenue. If pet grooming will be your main service and pet accessories are secondary, go with the pet care services code. Different government agencies do sometimes use different systems, which is why both SIC and NAICS codes are still relevant today. The SBA, census bureau, and tax agencies primarily use NAICS, while some financial institutions and legacy systems still reference SIC codes. When filling out forms, just use whichever code the form requests - if they ask for both, provide both.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that your SIC/NAICS code can affect your insurance rates too! When I started my woodworking business, I initially used a general manufacturing code and my insurance quote was astronomical. Once I updated to the proper furniture crafting code, my premiums dropped by about 40%. Insurance companies use these codes to determine risk factors for your specific industry. Getting the wrong code can cost you thousands in unnecessary premiums. Take the time to research the exact subcategory that fits your business operations.

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Chloe Harris

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Wow I had no idea about the insurance angle! Do you think it would be worth talking to an insurance agent before finalizing my NAICS code then? Or should I just research the rates for different potential codes online?

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Talking to an insurance agent is definitely worth it. They can give you quotes based on different code classifications and explain the risk factors associated with each. Online research is good for initial information, but insurance rates vary widely by location and specific business details. An agent familiar with small business insurance can explain how different classifications might affect not just your premiums but also your coverage options. In my case, the agent actually identified a more specific subcategory that better represented my custom furniture work versus mass production, which made a significant difference.

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QuantumQueen

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I think everyone's overthinking this. I just googled "pet grooming NAICS" when I started my business and put that code on all my paperwork. Never had an issue getting my business license, bank account, or anything else. Banks care way more about your credit score and business plan than your NAICS code in my experience.

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Aisha Rahman

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That's not entirely true. I work in small business lending at a regional bank, and we absolutely look at industry codes. Certain codes qualify for specialized loan programs with better terms. Also, we use industry codes to compare financial performance against industry benchmarks when evaluating loan applications. Getting the right code won't guarantee a loan, but the wrong code could definitely work against you.

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