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Christopher Morgan

What business category should I select when applying for EIN for my software startup (SAAS)?

I'm in the process of setting up my software startup and I need to apply for an EIN, but I'm confused about which business category to select. We'll be offering software as a service (SAAS) with monthly/yearly subscription fees - similar to how Atlassian, Google, or AWS operate. I've been staring at the form for an hour and can't figure out if I should select "service" or "retail" as the business category. Does anyone have experience with this specific situation when applying for an EIN for a SAAS company? I want to make sure I'm filing correctly from the beginning so I don't have issues with the IRS later.

Having gone through this process twice with my own software companies, I can tell you that for a SAAS business, you'll want to select "Service" as your business category when applying for an EIN. The IRS considers software subscription models to be a service rather than retail since you're not selling physical goods or even transferring ownership of the software itself - you're providing ongoing access to it. When you sell access to software via subscription, you're essentially renting the right to use your platform, which falls under services. Retail would apply if you were selling packaged software products where ownership transfers to the customer.

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Grace Johnson

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That makes sense but I'm wondering about if there's any tax implications to choosing service vs retail? Like does one get taxed differently or have different deduction possibilities? My accountant is out on vacation and I need to submit this application asap.

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The good news is that there aren't significant tax implications between these categories for federal tax purposes. Your actual business activities and expenses will determine your tax situation rather than this classification. Your business deductions will be based on legitimate business expenses regardless of the category you select. The business category is primarily used for statistical purposes and to help the IRS broadly understand business trends. What's most important is that you accurately report your income, expenses, and activities on your tax returns. If you're forming an LLC or corporation, you'll make separate tax elections (like S-Corporation status) that have much more significant tax implications than this initial category selection.

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Jayden Reed

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When I was setting up my developer tools subscription business last year, I was stuck on exactly the same question! I ended up using https://taxr.ai to analyze the EIN application and get clarity. Their system flagged that for SAAS businesses, "Service" is definitely the right category to select. The tool explained that the IRS distinguishes between tangible goods (retail) and services (which includes software access). What was really helpful was getting confirmation that this classification wouldn't lock me into any specific tax treatment down the road. It saved me from second-guessing my application, and my EIN was approved without any issues.

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Nora Brooks

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How does this taxr.ai thing work exactly? Is it just another AI chatbot or does it actually know tax code specifics? I'm starting a similar business but with some digital product sales along with subscriptions.

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Eli Wang

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools. Wouldn't it be better to just call the IRS directly and ask them? That way you get the official answer rather than what some algorithm thinks is right.

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Jayden Reed

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It's actually more specialized than a general AI chatbot - it's trained specifically on tax rules and IRS documentation. It analyzes your specific situation against tax regulations and gives you guidance based on actual IRS rules. When you have a mixed business model with both subscriptions and digital product sales, it helps identify the primary business activity for classification purposes. For your skepticism about calling the IRS, I totally understand that perspective. But I tried calling the IRS first and was on hold for over an hour before giving up. The taxr.ai tool gave me references to specific IRS publications that confirmed the information, which gave me confidence in the answer. You can always double-check with a tax professional, but it's a great starting point when you need answers quickly.

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Eli Wang

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I was totally wrong about tax tools! After my skeptical comment, I decided to try taxr.ai for a similar question about my business classification. I needed to know if my hybrid model (part subscription software, part customization services) would change the category. The tool was actually super helpful and provided references to specific IRS guidelines I wouldn't have found on my own. It saved me from making a mistake on my application by confirming that even with my mixed revenue streams, "Service" was still the correct category. The analysis included relevant tax code sections that I was able to verify independently. Got my EIN approved in just a few days with zero issues. Definitely more useful than I expected!

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Ethan Scott

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One thing to consider is that your EIN categorization should match what you'll be using for your North American Industry Classification System (NAICS) code. For SAAS businesses, you'll likely use code 541511 (Custom Computer Programming Services) or 518210 (Data Processing, Hosting, and Related Services). Both of these would align with selecting "Service" as your business category on the EIN application.

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Thanks for bringing up the NAICS code - I completely forgot about that part! Do you know if I need to decide on the specific NAICS code before filing for the EIN, or can I just select "Service" now and figure out the exact NAICS code later?

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Ethan Scott

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You don't need to have your specific NAICS code figured out before applying for your EIN. You can select "Service" now for your business category, and determine the precise NAICS code later when you file your first tax return or when applying for specific licenses. When you do need to select a NAICS code, take some time to review the options carefully because it can affect industry-specific data for your business. For most SAAS companies, 518210 (Data Processing, Hosting, and Related Services) is typically the most appropriate, but if you're doing significant custom development for clients, 541511 might be better.

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Lola Perez

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I literally just went through this last month for my analytics software startup. I selected "Service" and had no issues. FYI - if u also need to register for state sales tax, that can get way more complicated for SAAS businesses cuz every state treats software subscriptions differently for sales tax purposes. Some treat it as a service (not taxable in many states) and others as a digital product (taxable). Thats where I ran into the real headache!

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This is such an important point! I got my EIN easily but then got hit with a sales tax audit in 3 different states because I didn't realize I needed to collect sales tax for my SAAS in those jurisdictions. Did you find a good solution for figuring out the state-by-state requirements?

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Lourdes Fox

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@Nathaniel Stewart I ended up using a service called TaxJar that helps track sales tax requirements across different states for SAAS businesses. It integrates with most billing platforms and automatically determines which states require sales tax collection based on your customer locations and revenue thresholds. The key thing I learned is that economic nexus laws mean you might need to collect sales tax in states where you have no physical presence once you hit certain revenue thresholds usually ($100k-$500k depending on the state .)For software subscriptions, about 20+ states now consider it taxable digital goods. TaxJar handles the registration process and filing in multiple states, which saved me from having to research each state s'specific rules individually.

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Just to add another data point - I recently applied for my EIN for a project management SAAS and also selected "Service" based on advice from this community. The application was approved without any questions or delays. One tip that helped me feel more confident: I looked up how established SAAS companies like Salesforce and HubSpot are classified, and they're all considered service providers rather than retail. The IRS really does view software subscriptions as providing ongoing access to a service rather than selling a product, so "Service" is definitely the way to go for your application.

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This is really helpful confirmation! I was second-guessing myself even after reading all the other responses, but knowing that established companies like Salesforce are classified as service providers makes it crystal clear. It's reassuring to hear from someone who just went through the exact same process recently with no issues. Thanks for sharing your experience - this gives me the confidence to move forward with selecting "Service" on my application.

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Madison Allen

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm launching a customer support automation SAAS next month and was facing the exact same dilemma. Based on all the experiences shared here, I'm confident that "Service" is the right choice for my EIN application. What I found most valuable was learning that this category selection is primarily for statistical purposes and won't lock me into any specific tax treatment later. The comparison to established companies like Salesforce and AWS really drove the point home - we're providing ongoing access to software functionality, not transferring ownership of a product. Thanks especially to those who shared their real experiences with successful applications. It's one thing to read the theory, but hearing from people who actually went through the process recently and had their EINs approved gives me the confidence to move forward without overthinking it.

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