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Jamal Brown

What business category should I choose for EIN application when starting a SAAS software company?

I'm in the process of setting up a new software startup and I'm at the EIN application stage. We're developing a subscription-based software platform where clients will pay monthly or annual fees to access our services (similar to how Atlassian, Google Workspace, or AWS operate). But I'm stuck at the business category selection part of the EIN application. Should I classify my business as "service" or "retail"? The distinction isn't very clear to me when it comes to software subscription models. Has anyone gone through this process for a SAAS company before? What category did you end up selecting?

Mei Zhang

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This comes up a lot with software companies. For a SAAS business where you're providing access to software through subscription fees, you should select "Service" as your business category when applying for an EIN. The IRS generally classifies software subscription businesses as service providers since you're essentially selling access to a service (your software platform) rather than a physical product. Even though you might think of it as "retail" in the sense that you're selling something, retail typically applies to businesses selling tangible goods. Your SAAS model is fundamentally providing a service through software, not selling physical merchandise or even downloadable software as a one-time purchase.

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What about if the software is downloadable though? I'm in a similar situation but our users download our software first and then pay a subscription. Would that still be classified as "Service"?

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Mei Zhang

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For downloadable software with a subscription model, it would still be classified as "Service" in most cases. The key factor is that your primary business model revolves around ongoing access and service rather than a one-time sale of a product. The IRS looks at the core nature of your business activity. Since your customers are paying for continued access to use the software (even if initially downloaded), rather than purchasing a perpetual license outright, you're providing an ongoing service. This distinction is what places most modern software businesses in the "Service" category.

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CosmicCaptain

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Dmitry Petrov

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Another angle to consider - will your SAAS have any professional services component like implementation, training, or customization? If so, that further solidifies the "Service" classification. We started as pure SAAS but added professional services later, and having that "Service" designation from the beginning made our accounting much simpler.

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Jamal Brown

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Yes actually! We're planning to offer implementation support and some customization options for enterprise clients. Good point about keeping the accounting simpler - that's definitely something I hadn't considered. Did you have to make any amendments to your original EIN application when you added those service components?

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Dmitry Petrov

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You wouldn't need to amend your EIN application when adding additional service components later. The initial business category selection on the EIN application is primarily to help the IRS classify your business, but it doesn't lock you into only that specific activity. Many businesses evolve over time, and the IRS understands this. As long as your primary business activity remains generally within the service sector, which it would with both SAAS and implementation services, you're fine keeping everything under your original EIN with the "Service" classification.

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StarSurfer

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Don't stress too much about this! I accidentally selected "retail" for my SAAS business two years ago and it's never caused any issues. The business category on the EIN application isn't as critical as people make it out to be. The IRS cares more about accurate income reporting than the specific category you select during application.

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Ava Martinez

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While it might not have caused problems yet, selecting the wrong business category could potentially trigger unnecessary scrutiny during an audit. The IRS might question why a "retail" business is reporting primarily service-based income. Better to get it right from the start!

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Kolton Murphy

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Great question! I went through this exact same process last year for my SaaS startup. After researching extensively and consulting with my accountant, I selected "Service" for our EIN application. The reasoning is that SaaS businesses are fundamentally providing ongoing access to software functionality rather than selling a tangible product. Even though customers "purchase" subscriptions, what they're really buying is continuous access to your service platform. This puts it squarely in the service category rather than retail, which is typically reserved for businesses selling physical goods or one-time software purchases. The IRS views subscription-based software access as a service offering, similar to how they'd classify other subscription services like consulting or cloud hosting.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful to hear from someone who's actually been through the process. Did you run into any complications or questions from the IRS after selecting "Service"? I'm curious if there were any follow-up requirements or if the process was straightforward once you made that selection. Also, how did your accountant help guide you through this decision - did they have specific criteria they used to determine service vs retail for SaaS businesses?

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