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Does industry selection matter when applying for a federal tax ID (EIN) for my business?

Title: Does industry selection matter when applying for a federal tax ID (EIN) for my business? 1 I started a small 3D printing side hustle back in January and finally got around to setting up a federal tax ID. When filling out the application, there was this section asking about industry classification and revenue sources. I selected "retail/sales" since I'm mainly selling my printed items at local conventions and craft fairs. But now my buddy who does some accounting work is telling me I should have selected "manufacturing" instead because then I could write off all the filament and materials as production costs. Did I mess up? Do I need to go back and change my industry classification somehow, or can I just claim the filament and materials as business expenses when I file my taxes regardless of what industry I initially selected? Getting worried I might miss out on some deductions here.

The Boss

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8 The industry classification you select when applying for your EIN (Employer Identification Number) doesn't restrict what expenses you can deduct on your tax return. It's primarily used for statistical purposes by the IRS and doesn't lock you into specific deduction categories. For your 3D printing business, you can absolutely deduct the cost of filament as a business expense regardless of whether you classified yourself as "sales" or "manufacturing." These would typically be considered "Cost of Goods Sold" on your Schedule C, which applies to both retailers and manufacturers.

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The Boss

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12 Thanks for explaining that! So just to be sure I understand - when I file my taxes with Schedule C, should I put my business under "manufacturing" at that point? Or does it not matter there either? Also, can I deduct my 3D printer as a business asset or just the materials?

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The Boss

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8 For Schedule C filing, you'll need to provide a business code which better reflects your actual business activities, and "manufacturing" would indeed be more accurate for 3D printing. This doesn't need to match your EIN application and won't cause any issues. You can absolutely deduct your 3D printer as a business asset. Since it's equipment with a useful life of more than one year, you'd typically depreciate it over time, but you might also qualify for Section 179 deduction which allows you to deduct the full cost in the year of purchase (subject to certain limitations). The filament and other consumable supplies would be direct expenses or cost of goods sold.

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The Boss

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The Boss

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7 How does it work with equipment? I bought my 3D printer specifically for this business but already owned one of them before I started selling prints. Would the system help figure out partial business use?

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The Boss

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19 I've tried a few tax tools before and they're always too generic. Does this actually understand specialized businesses like 3D printing? And can it handle both the material costs AND the equipment depreciation stuff the previous commenter mentioned?

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The Boss

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15 For equipment like 3D printers, the system lets you indicate whether it's 100% business use or partial personal use. If you're using it partially for business, it helps calculate the appropriate percentage deduction based on your usage patterns. The system is actually really good with specialized businesses including maker/creator businesses like 3D printing. It specifically addresses materials like filament as manufacturing supplies and understands the difference between those ongoing supplies versus durable equipment depreciation. It even helped me sort out which client projects could be categorized separately for better record-keeping.

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19 Update: I decided to try taxr.ai after posting my question here and wow - it actually delivered! Their system walked me through exactly how to categorize my 3D printing business correctly for tax purposes. It confirmed I could deduct all my filament costs AND helped me set up proper depreciation for my printers. The best part was it showed me several small business deductions I had no idea about (like partial home office since I design and slice models at home but print in my garage). Seriously saved me a ton of money and stress!

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The Boss

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The Boss

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The Boss

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5 Yeah right. Nobody gets through to the IRS these days. I called 14 times last month about my business EIN issue. Either this is some kind of scam or they're charging hundreds of dollars for this "service"...

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The Boss

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The Boss

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5 I was completely wrong about this service. After posting my skeptical comment, I was desperate enough to try Claimyr because I needed to confirm my EIN industry classification before filing quarterly taxes. They actually got me through to an IRS business division representative in about 40 minutes (while I just went about my day). The agent confirmed exactly what others here said - the industry classification on the EIN application is mostly for their statistical purposes and doesn't restrict what business expenses I can claim. Saved me so much stress and wasted time!

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The Boss

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11 Just FYI, I run a small CNC business and file under manufacturing. The key difference I've found is related to inventory tracking. When you're classified as a manufacturer, you need to track your inventory of raw materials, work in progress, and finished goods. This affects how and when you deduct costs of materials.

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The Boss

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22 So does that mean I need some kind of inventory management system now? I literally just have rolls of filament in different colors and just grab whatever I need for each order. Nothing fancy.

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The Boss

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11 You don't necessarily need anything complex. For a small 3D printing operation, spreadsheets can work fine for basic inventory tracking. Simply document when you purchase filament (raw materials), what's being used in current projects (work in progress), and completed items ready for sale (finished goods). The key for tax purposes is being able to accurately calculate your Cost of Goods Sold, which requires knowing beginning inventory, purchases, and ending inventory. This lets you properly deduct the materials actually used during the tax year rather than just what you purchased.

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The Boss

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17 Anyone using specific tax software that works well for 3D printing businesses? I tried using TurboTax Self-Employed last year and felt like it wasn't really designed for maker businesses with all our unique expenses.

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The Boss

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14 I switched to TaxSlayer Premium after having the same frustrations. It lets you customize business categories more and has better expense tracking for manufacturing supplies. Way cheaper than TurboTax too.

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I'm just getting started with my own 3D printing business and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I had no idea about the inventory tracking requirements for manufacturing classification. Quick question - if I'm selling both custom prints (made-to-order) and standard items I keep in stock, does that change how I should handle the inventory accounting? Also, for those using specialized tax software, do any of them integrate with common 3D printing workflow tools like OctoPrint or slicing software to track material usage automatically?

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KylieRose

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Great questions! For mixed business models like yours, you can handle inventory differently for each type. Custom/made-to-order prints can often be treated as direct job costs (materials used immediately upon purchase), while stock items need proper inventory tracking. This actually simplifies your bookkeeping since most of your materials probably go directly into custom orders anyway. As for software integration, I haven't found any tax software that directly connects to OctoPrint or slicers yet, but some people use plugins or scripts to export material usage data to CSV files that can then be imported into accounting software. Might be worth exploring if you're tech-savvy! Most of us still track material costs manually through purchase records and periodic inventory counts.

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This is such a comprehensive thread! As someone who just started their EIN application process for a small woodworking business, I'm relieved to learn that the initial industry classification isn't set in stone for tax purposes. I was stressing about whether to pick "manufacturing" vs "retail" since I both make custom furniture and sell pre-made items at farmers markets. One thing I'm curious about - for those of you who switched your Schedule C business classification to better reflect your actual activities, did you notice any difference in how the IRS processed your returns or triggered any additional scrutiny? I want to make sure I classify correctly from the start but don't want to overthink it if it really doesn't matter much practically speaking.

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I haven't noticed any additional scrutiny from switching my Schedule C classification to better match my actual business activities. The IRS seems more concerned with consistent reporting and proper documentation of expenses than the specific industry code you choose. What matters most is that your deductions align with legitimate business expenses regardless of the classification. For woodworking like yours, whether you file as manufacturing or retail, you'll still be able to deduct wood, hardware, tools, and other materials. The key is keeping good records and being able to justify your expenses if ever questioned. I'd suggest going with whichever classification most accurately describes your primary business activity - if you're making more custom furniture than selling pre-made items, manufacturing probably fits better. But honestly, as long as your expenses are legitimate and well-documented, the classification itself shouldn't cause issues.

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As someone who's been running a small laser engraving business for about two years now, I can confirm what others have said about the EIN industry classification being mainly for statistical purposes. I initially selected "retail" when I first got my EIN because I was primarily selling finished products, but when I started doing more custom work and buying raw materials in bulk, my accountant helped me switch to "manufacturing" on my Schedule C. The real game-changer for me was getting organized with expense tracking early on. I wish I'd known about proper inventory management from the start - it would have saved me hours during tax season trying to reconstruct my material costs. For anyone just starting out, I'd recommend setting up a simple system to track your raw material purchases and usage from day one, regardless of which industry classification you choose initially. Also, don't forget about indirect expenses like electricity for running your equipment, storage costs for materials, and even vehicle expenses if you're delivering products to customers or picking up supplies. These can add up to significant deductions that are easy to overlook!

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Luca Ferrari

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This is really helpful advice! I'm just starting my 3D printing side business and already feeling overwhelmed by all the record-keeping requirements. You mentioned setting up a simple system for tracking material purchases and usage - do you have any specific recommendations for someone who's not super tech-savvy? Also, I hadn't thought about electricity costs for running the printers! How do you calculate that? Do you use a separate meter or just estimate based on your printer's power consumption? These indirect expenses could definitely add up over time, especially with longer print jobs running overnight.

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