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Wesley Hallow

Does industry selection matter when applying for a federal tax ID for my small business?

Title: Does industry selection matter when applying for a federal tax ID for my small business? 1 I started a small 3D printing business earlier this year and I'm a bit confused about something on my tax paperwork. When I applied for my federal tax ID, there was a section asking about my industry and revenue sources. I selected "sales" since I'm primarily selling my 3D prints at various craft fairs and trade shows. Yesterday, I was talking with another vendor at a show who also does 3D printing, and they mentioned I should have selected "manufacturing" instead because then I could write off all the filament I use as a manufacturing expense. Now I'm worried I might have messed up. Do I need to go back and change my industry classification with the IRS, or can I just claim the filament as a business expense when I file taxes at the end of the year regardless of how I initially classified my business? I'm really new to all this business tax stuff and don't want to get in trouble.

Wesley Hallow

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4 You're totally fine! The industry classification you selected when applying for your EIN (federal tax ID) doesn't limit what expenses you can deduct on your tax return. That classification is primarily for statistical purposes used by the government. When it comes to filing your taxes, you'll list your business on Schedule C (if you're a sole proprietor) or the appropriate business return form. On that form, you can absolutely deduct the cost of your 3D printing filament as a business expense - either as "Cost of Goods Sold" or as a "Supplies" expense depending on your accounting method. This is true regardless of whether you classified yourself as sales or manufacturing. The key thing is that the filament is an ordinary and necessary expense for your business, which it absolutely is. Just keep good records of your purchases and how the materials were used for business purposes.

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Wesley Hallow

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12 Thanks for explaining! I'm a sole proprietor so I'll be using Schedule C. Is there any advantage to listing the filament under Cost of Goods Sold versus Supplies? I've heard something about inventory but I usually just buy filament as I need it.

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Wesley Hallow

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4 If you're using the filament directly to create products for sale, it would generally be more appropriate to include it in Cost of Goods Sold (COGS). The advantage is that COGS directly reduces your gross receipts before calculating gross profit. For small businesses that don't maintain significant inventory, though, the practical difference is minimal since both COGS and supply expenses ultimately reduce your taxable income. The most important thing is consistency in how you categorize expenses year to year. If you're buying filament as needed and don't maintain a significant inventory, the Supplies category might be simpler for your situation.

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Wesley Hallow

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Wesley Hallow

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15 Does it work with Schedule C specifically? I'm using TurboTax but it doesn't really explain the difference between categories well. Wondering if this could help me organize things better before I input everything.

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Wesley Hallow

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19 I'm skeptical about these AI tax tools. How does it actually know IRS regulations? My friend got audited last year after using some online tax tool (not saying it was this one).

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Wesley Hallow

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7 It definitely works with Schedule C - that's exactly what I used it for! It breaks down each Schedule C category and suggests where your specific expenses should go based on your business type. Much clearer explanations than what I got from TurboTax. As for regulations, it's specifically trained on IRS publications and tax code, so it's pulling directly from official sources. It doesn't actually file your taxes - it just helps you understand how to categorize everything correctly before you use your preferred filing method. I still used TurboTax to actually file, but with much more confidence about my deductions.

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Wesley Hallow

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15 Update: I tried the taxr.ai service that was mentioned here and it was super helpful! Uploaded my business formation documents and some receipts for my art supply business, and it confirmed I could deduct all my materials as business expenses regardless of how I initially classified the business. The coolest part was it organized all my expenses into the right Schedule C categories and explained why each one belonged there. Definitely cleared up my confusion about where to put things like my specialized printer paper - turns out it's best categorized as COGS in my situation since I'm directly converting it into products. Wish I'd found this earlier in the year!

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Wesley Hallow

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Wesley Hallow

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Wesley Hallow

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Wesley Hallow

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Wesley Hallow

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19 I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it since I had a question about business expenses for my woodworking side business. It actually worked exactly as described - I got a call back in about 25 minutes with an actual IRS agent on the line. The agent confirmed that my industry selection on my EIN application wasn't important for tax deduction purposes and walked me through exactly how to categorize my wood supplies and tools on Schedule C. I've literally spent HOURS on previous attempts to reach the IRS. This saved me an entire afternoon of frustration. Consider me converted from complete skeptic to satisfied user.

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Wesley Hallow

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11 Just a tip from someone who's been running a small laser cutting business for a few years - regardless of industry classification, keep VERY detailed records of your materials like filament. I track: - Date purchased - Cost (including shipping) - Project/product it was used for - Estimated percentage used for each project This has saved me multiple times when calculating expenses and helps tremendously if you ever need to determine profitability of different product lines. Also take photos of your larger material purchases with receipts.

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Wesley Hallow

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3 Do you use any specific software to track all this? I'm currently just using a spreadsheet but it's getting unwieldy as my business grows.

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Wesley Hallow

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11 I started with spreadsheets too but switched to QuickBooks Self-Employed after my first year. It lets me categorize expenses easily, track mileage automatically for trade shows, and separates business from personal expenses which is huge if you're using the same accounts for both. The reports feature has been super helpful at tax time and for seeing which products are actually profitable once I factor in material costs. The monthly fee is worth it for the time saved and the peace of mind knowing everything is organized properly.

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Wesley Hallow

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25 Has anyone tried just calling the industry code a "manufacturing and sales" combo? That's what I did for my pottery business. We both make and sell products, so it seemed logical to include both. The IRS agent I spoke with said many small businesses fall into multiple categories and it's not a big deal which primary code you choose as long as it reasonably represents your business activities.

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Wesley Hallow

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18 I did something similar with my custom t-shirt business. Listed "apparel manufacturing" as primary and "retail sales" as secondary. In practice, it hasn't affected my tax filings at all - I still deduct all my blanks, ink, and heat press supplies as direct costs.

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Dylan Cooper

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This is such a common worry for new business owners! I went through the exact same confusion when I started my small embroidery business. The good news is that your industry classification on the EIN application really doesn't restrict your tax deductions at all. I initially classified myself as "retail sales" but later realized I could have gone with "manufacturing" since I'm creating custom products. When I called the IRS (using one of those callback services mentioned here actually), they confirmed that the NAICS code is mainly for government statistics and doesn't limit what you can deduct. Your 3D printing filament is absolutely deductible as a business expense regardless of how you classified the business initially. You can put it under Cost of Goods Sold on Schedule C since you're directly converting it into products for sale. Just keep those receipts organized! The most important thing is that you're running a legitimate business and the expenses are ordinary and necessary for that business - which yours clearly are.

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Ella Harper

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This is really helpful information! I'm just starting my own small business (custom jewelry making) and was having similar worries about the industry classification. It's reassuring to know that the EIN classification doesn't limit what I can deduct. I've been buying silver wire, beads, and findings to create my pieces, and I was worried I might have classified wrong since I put "retail sales" instead of "manufacturing." Based on what everyone's saying here, it sounds like I can still deduct all my materials as business expenses on Schedule C regardless. Does anyone know if there are any other common mistakes new business owners make with their first tax filing? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything important since this will be my first year filing as a business owner.

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Lindsey Fry

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Welcome to the business owner club! Your jewelry materials are definitely deductible regardless of your EIN classification. A few common mistakes I see new business owners make: 1. Not separating business and personal expenses clearly - open a dedicated business bank account if you haven't already 2. Forgetting to track mileage for business trips (to suppliers, craft fairs, etc.) - this adds up quickly 3. Not keeping digital copies of receipts - they fade over time 4. Missing the home office deduction if you have a dedicated workspace 5. Forgetting about business insurance, professional development, and marketing expenses as deductions Since you're doing custom work, definitely track your time too. It helps you price appropriately and shows the business nature of your activities. And like others mentioned, keep detailed records of which materials go into which pieces - it'll help you understand your actual profit margins per item. The IRS sees a lot of jewelry businesses, so as long as you're treating it as a real business (not just a hobby), you should be fine!

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Avery Davis

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar boat with my small candle-making business. When I applied for my EIN last month, I was torn between selecting "manufacturing" since I'm creating the candles from scratch, or "retail" since I'm selling them at farmers markets and online. I ended up going with "retail sales" but have been second-guessing myself ever since. Reading through everyone's experiences here really puts my mind at ease that I can still deduct all my wax, wicks, fragrance oils, and containers as business expenses on Schedule C regardless of that initial classification. It's amazing how much confusion there is around this topic for new business owners! I spent way too much time worrying about whether I'd locked myself out of certain deductions. Now I can focus on actually growing the business instead of stressing about paperwork classifications that apparently don't matter as much as I thought they did. Thanks everyone for sharing your real-world experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical advice that's hard to find elsewhere!

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I'm so glad this thread exists! I'm brand new to running a business and was having the exact same worries about my pottery studio. I classified myself as "arts and crafts retail" when I got my EIN, but I'm clearly manufacturing pottery from raw clay and glazes. Reading everyone's experiences here is such a relief - I was literally losing sleep wondering if I'd made some huge mistake that would come back to haunt me during tax season. It's reassuring to know that so many other small business owners went through this same confusion and everything worked out fine. The practical advice about record keeping is invaluable too. I'm definitely going to start tracking my clay and glaze usage more carefully for each piece I make. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - this community is amazing for newcomers like me!

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I'm running into the exact same situation with my small laser engraving business! When I got my EIN a few months ago, I selected "custom manufacturing" but then started second-guessing myself when I realized most of my revenue comes from selling the finished products at local markets rather than doing custom work for clients. This whole thread has been such a huge relief - I was convinced I'd have to go through some complicated process to change my classification or that I'd be stuck with limited deduction options. It's so reassuring to hear from actual business owners who've been through this and confirmed that the industry code doesn't restrict what you can deduct. I've been meticulously tracking all my material costs (wood blanks, acrylic sheets, leather, etc.) but wasn't sure how to categorize them come tax time. Based on the advice here, it sounds like I can treat them as Cost of Goods Sold on Schedule C since I'm directly converting them into finished products for sale. Thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences - this kind of practical, first-hand knowledge is exactly what new business owners like us need to hear!

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Emma Wilson

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Welcome to the club of overthinking business classifications! I went through the exact same mental gymnastics when I started my small soap-making business last year. I flip-flopped between "manufacturing" and "retail" about a dozen times before finally submitting my EIN application. What really helped me was realizing that most small businesses like ours are hybrids by nature - we manufacture our products AND we sell them directly to consumers. The IRS gets this and that's why the classification doesn't box you into specific deduction categories. Your laser engraving materials are definitely deductible as COGS since you're transforming raw materials into finished products. I do the same thing with my soap ingredients - oils, lye, fragrances, molds - all go under Cost of Goods Sold because they're directly incorporated into my final products. The key is just being consistent year over year and keeping good records, which it sounds like you're already doing great at! Don't let the classification anxiety steal your focus from growing your business - you've got this!

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Zoe Papadakis

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This is exactly the kind of question I had when I started my small woodworking business! I went back and forth between "manufacturing" and "retail" when applying for my EIN because I both create custom pieces and sell finished items at craft shows. After talking to a tax professional and going through my first year of filing, I can confirm what everyone else is saying - the industry classification really doesn't limit your deductions. I've been able to deduct all my lumber, hardware, finishes, and tools as business expenses regardless of how I initially classified the business. The most important thing is treating your business like a legitimate business and keeping detailed records. I track every material purchase, what project it went toward, and keep all receipts digitally backed up. When tax time comes, it's much more about whether the expense was ordinary and necessary for your business operations than what box you checked when getting your EIN. Your filament costs are absolutely deductible - you're directly converting raw materials into products for sale, which is textbook Cost of Goods Sold territory. Don't stress about the classification; focus on good record keeping and growing your 3D printing business!

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Ethan Brown

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This is such a reassuring thread for new business owners! I just started my small resin art business and was having the exact same concerns about my EIN classification. I selected "arts and crafts retail" but then worried I should have chosen "manufacturing" since I'm mixing resins, pigments, and additives to create original pieces. Reading everyone's experiences here really puts my mind at ease. It sounds like whether you're doing 3D printing, woodworking, soap making, or resin art, the principle is the same - your raw materials are deductible as business expenses regardless of that initial industry classification. I've been tracking all my resin, hardeners, pigments, and molds but wasn't sure how to categorize them for taxes. Based on the advice shared here, it seems like they'd fall under Cost of Goods Sold since I'm transforming them into finished artwork for sale. The consistency and good record keeping advice is really valuable too - I'm definitely going to be more systematic about documenting which materials go into each piece. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences. This community knowledge is so much more helpful than trying to interpret tax code on my own!

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