Help with UNDETERMINED TERM TRANSACTIONS FOR NONCOVERED TAX LOTS - GBTC reporting on taxes
I bought Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) shares back in 2021 in my regular taxable brokerage account. Honestly I went with GBTC instead of actual bitcoin because I thought it would make my tax situation easier (yeah I know, rookie mistake lol). I wasn't planning to deal with all the crypto tax headaches. So I just got my 1099-B and there's this whole section labeled "UNDETERMINED TERM TRANSACTIONS FOR NONCOVERED TAX LOTS" for GBTC. Apparently they've been selling tiny portions of my holdings WEEKLY to cover their management fees! I had no idea this was happening. Now I'm looking at dozens of micro-transactions that I need to figure out how to report. Has anyone dealt with this before? Do I need to report each of these tiny transactions individually on my taxes? This seems like it's going to be a nightmare to calculate cost basis for each of these little sells. The total amount isn't huge (maybe $340 total across all these mini-sales) but I'm worried about reporting it correctly. Any advice would be really appreciated!
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Diego Rojas
This is a common issue with GBTC and other similar investment trusts. Those weekly micro-sales to cover fees are technically taxable events, even though you didn't initiate them yourself. The good news is you don't have to report each transaction line by line on your tax return. Since these are all considered short-term capital gains (assuming they're selling shares that have been held less than a year), you can aggregate them together. Your brokerage should provide a summary of the total proceeds and cost basis for these transactions. Look for a subtotal line in your 1099-B that combines these GBTC fee-based sales. You can report that single amount on Schedule D and Form 8949. You'll want to check box C on Form 8949 for short-term transactions not reported to the IRS with basis. Make sure you keep the detailed transaction report with your tax records though, in case the IRS ever questions it.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•What if there's no subtotal line on the 1099-B? Mine lists about 50 separate tiny transactions for GBTC but doesn't sum them up anywhere. Do I need to manually add them all together? And why would these be short-term if I've held the main investment for over 2 years?
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Diego Rojas
•If there's no subtotal provided, you will need to manually add them up yourself. It's tedious but necessary. Create a spreadsheet with all the transactions, calculate the gains/losses for each, and then report the total on your tax forms. They're considered short-term because each micro-sale is taking a tiny slice of your holdings, and the trust typically uses a FIFO (first-in, first-out) or average cost method. So even though you've held your initial investment for over 2 years, the specific shares being sold to cover fees may have been purchased more recently through dividend reinvestments or additional buys. Check the detailed transaction report - they should indicate the acquisition date of each lot sold.
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StarSeeker
After dealing with this exact headache last year with GBTC, I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it completely changed my tax prep experience. I had over 70 of these micro-transactions across multiple investments and was literally pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to properly report them. Their system automatically sorted through all my "UNDETERMINED TERM TRANSACTIONS" and consolidated them properly. It identified which ones were actually for GBTC fee payments versus other transactions, calculated the correct basis for each, and generated the proper 8949 entries I needed. Saved me hours of spreadsheet work and probably reduced my audit risk too since everything was properly documented.
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Sean O'Donnell
•Does it work if you've got multiple brokerage accounts? I've got some GBTC in both Fidelity and Schwab accounts and I'm worried about messing up the reporting across different 1099s.
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Zara Ahmed
•I'm skeptical about these tax tools for crypto-adjacent investments like GBTC. How does it handle the fact that some of these micro-transactions might be noncovered securities where the basis wasn't reported to the IRS? My broker explicitly marked some as "basis not reported to IRS" which seems like it needs special handling.
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StarSeeker
•It absolutely works with multiple brokerage accounts. I had positions spread across three different brokers myself. You just upload all your 1099s, and it combines everything correctly while keeping track of which transactions came from which source. For noncovered securities where the basis wasn't reported to the IRS, the tool specifically identifies these and marks them properly on your 8949. It knows the difference between covered and noncovered transactions and puts them in the right categories (Box A vs Box B for long-term, Box C vs Box D for short-term). That's actually one of the things that impressed me most - it knew exactly how to handle the "basis not reported to IRS" transactions.
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Zara Ahmed
I was really skeptical about using yet another tax tool for my GBTC nightmares, but I gave taxr.ai a try after seeing it mentioned here. I'm actually shocked at how well it worked. I had 62 micro-transactions in my 1099-B for GBTC fee payments that were marked as "UNDETERMINED TERM TRANSACTIONS FOR NONCOVERED TAX LOTS," and the tool correctly identified all of them. It properly calculated my basis even though my broker hadn't reported it to the IRS. What really surprised me was that it found a couple of transactions where my broker had actually calculated the basis incorrectly, which could have caused issues if I'd been audited. Everything was laid out clearly showing which transactions were covered vs noncovered, and it generated perfect 8949 forms that I just attached to my return. Definitely using it again this year.
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Luca Esposito
If you're still struggling with getting answers directly from the IRS about how to handle these GBTC undetermined transactions, try Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). After spending 3 days trying to get through to the IRS myself, I was connected within 20 minutes using their service. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent I spoke with confirmed that aggregating these fee-based micro-transactions is acceptable for reporting purposes, but you still need to maintain records of each individual transaction. They also explained exactly how to handle the "undetermined term" classification, which was really helpful since none of the tax software I was using seemed to know what to do with it.
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Nia Thompson
•Wait, is this for real? I've been calling the IRS hotline for weeks about a similar issue and can't get through. How does this actually work - are they just calling on your behalf or something?
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Mateo Rodriguez
•This sounds like BS honestly. Nobody can get through to the IRS these days, and if they could, why would a third party have better luck than me calling directly? Seems like a waste of money when you could just ask your accountant or use one of the crypto tax services.
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Luca Esposito
•They don't call on your behalf - they basically hold your place in line and notify you when an IRS agent is about to answer. It's like having someone wait in a physical line for you, then they call you over when you're about to be served. It's definitely real. I was skeptical too, but after trying myself and waiting on hold for over 2 hours multiple times without getting through, I was desperate. With Claimyr, I just put in my number, and they called me when I was about to be connected. I reached a knowledgeable IRS agent who specifically helped me with my GBTC reporting questions.
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Mateo Rodriguez
I'll admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it as a last resort before filing an extension. I was connected to the IRS in 15 minutes after spending DAYS trying to get through on my own. The IRS agent I spoke with confirmed that for "UNDETERMINED TERM TRANSACTIONS" on GBTC, I should: 1) Keep detailed records of each transaction, 2) Report the aggregated amounts on Form 8949 with box C checked (short-term not reported to IRS), and 3) Include a brief statement explaining the nature of these transactions. They also explained that "undetermined term" just means the broker doesn't know if it's long or short term, and in this case, they should be treated as short-term since they're fee payments. Seriously saved me from potentially misreporting these transactions. Pretty impressed with how quickly I got through.
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GalaxyGuardian
Another option is to use the "Single-transaction exception" if your total proceeds from all these micro-transactions are under $1,000. The IRS allows you to combine all minor sales into one single entry on Form 8949. I had this GBTC issue last year and my total proceeds from the fee sales was only about $275. I just reported it as one line item with the description "Various GBTC fee transactions - details available upon request" and included the total proceeds and my calculated basis. Saved me from filling out dozens of lines, and my return was accepted without issue.
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Chloe Martin
•This single-transaction exception sounds like exactly what I need. My total from all these mini sales is around $340, so well under the $1,000 threshold. Would I still need to check box C for "short-term transactions not reported to the IRS with basis"? And did you have to include any special attachments or just that description line?
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GalaxyGuardian
•Yes, you should still check box C since these are short-term transactions where the basis wasn't reported to the IRS. I didn't need to include any special attachments, just that description line with the totals. I did keep a spreadsheet with all the individual transactions in my records in case I ever get audited. The key is making sure your records clearly show how you calculated the total amounts you're reporting. It's totally legitimate to use this exception for small amounts like yours - the IRS created this rule specifically to reduce the burden of reporting tons of tiny transactions.
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Aisha Abdullah
Has anyone considered just switching to directly holding Bitcoin instead of GBTC? I did that after dealing with this nightmare last year. Now I use a specialized crypto tax software that integrates with my wallet and exchanges. Much cleaner tax situation and no surprise micro-transactions for fees.
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Ethan Wilson
•I moved from GBTC to direct Bitcoin holdings last year and it's actually WAY simpler for taxes. Most crypto tax software can generate complete reports for wallets and exchanges. Plus you avoid those ridiculous GBTC management fees that create all these micro-transactions in the first place.
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William Schwarz
I'm dealing with a very similar situation with GBTC in my Schwab account. Got about 45 micro-transactions listed as "UNDETERMINED TERM TRANSACTIONS FOR NONCOVERED TAX LOTS" and was completely overwhelmed trying to figure out how to report them. Based on what I'm reading here, it sounds like the single-transaction exception might be perfect for my situation since my total proceeds are only around $290. I had no idea this was even an option! One question though - when calculating the basis for these aggregated transactions, should I be using the original purchase price of the GBTC shares that were sold for fees, or is there a different way to calculate it? My broker shows "basis not reported to IRS" for all of these, so I need to figure out the correct basis myself. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding what seemed like an impossible tax situation!
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Atticus Domingo
•For calculating the basis on those aggregated GBTC fee transactions, you'll need to use the original purchase price of the specific shares that were sold. Since GBTC typically uses FIFO (first-in, first-out) for these fee sales, you'd calculate based on your earliest purchases. Here's what worked for me: I created a simple spreadsheet tracking my GBTC purchases chronologically, then worked through which shares would have been sold first for the fee payments. For each micro-transaction, I used the cost basis of the corresponding shares from my original purchases. Since your total is under $1,000, you can definitely use the single-transaction exception. Just make sure to keep that detailed calculation spreadsheet in your records. The basis calculation can be tedious, but it's much easier than reporting 45 separate transactions! And yes, you'd still check box C on Form 8949 since the basis wasn't reported to the IRS.
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