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Ava Williams

How Do You Report "UNDETERMINED TERM TRANSACTIONS FOR NONCOVERED TAX LOTS" When Filing Taxes?

I'm currently working on my 2025 tax return and ran into a confusing section on one of my 1099-B forms that says "UNDETERMINED TERM TRANSACTIONS FOR NONCOVERED TAX LOTS" for a couple of small stock positions. My tax software is giving me a headache because it's demanding a cost basis, acquisition date, and whether they're short or long-term holdings. The problem is I honestly have no clue when I acquired these stocks. This is from a brokerage account I closed about 8 months ago (Webull), so I don't have access to the trading history anymore. The dollar amounts are super small - one position is like $12.46 and the other is around $8.75. I'm pretty sure these were those promotional free stocks Webull gave out when I opened the account, since I never buy stocks in such tiny amounts. I've spent the last two hours googling this and can't find any clear guidance on how to handle these "undetermined term" transactions. Do I just guess whether they're short or long-term? Make up a purchase date? Skip reporting them entirely? Any help would be seriously appreciated because this is the last thing holding up my filing!

Miguel Castro

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This is actually a common issue with free stocks from brokerages! When you receive those promotional free stocks, they're typically considered a gift with a $0 cost basis. Since they're marked as "noncovered" it means your broker isn't required to report the basis to the IRS - the reporting responsibility falls on you. For acquisition date: If these were indeed promotional free stocks, you can check your email for the notification of when you received them. Webull should have sent you something. If you absolutely can't find it, you'll need to make a good-faith estimate. For cost basis: If they were truly free promotional stocks, your cost basis would be $0. This means the entire proceeds would be capital gains. For term determination: If you held them for more than a year before selling, they're long-term. Less than a year is short-term. If you can't determine the exact acquisition date but are fairly certain they were from when you opened the account, you can calculate based on your account opening date. I'd recommend documenting your reasoning in case of questions later. The IRS is generally reasonable about small amounts like this when you make a good-faith effort to report correctly.

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But if they can't determine when they got the stocks, how are they supposed to know if it's short or long term? Is it better to just assume short-term to be safe? Also, will the IRS even care about such small amounts?

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Miguel Castro

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If you can't determine the exact acquisition date, use your best estimate based on when you opened the account or when you might have qualified for promotional stocks. If you truly can't determine, reporting as short-term is generally the more conservative approach since it's taxed at a higher rate. The IRS technically cares about all reportable income regardless of amount. While small discrepancies are unlikely to trigger an audit, intentionally omitting income is never recommended. These small amounts might not significantly impact your tax liability, but proper reporting creates a clear record and prevents potential issues if you're ever audited for other reasons.

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LunarEclipse

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Does this actually work with all brokerages? I've got similar issues with Robinhood and TD Ameritrade with some random penny stocks I got as promos but can't remember when.

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Yara Khalil

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I'm skeptical - how does an AI determine when you received stocks if that info isn't on the statements? Sounds like they're just guessing and you could do that yourself. Did it actually find documentation that Webull didn't provide?

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Yes, it works with pretty much all the major brokerages! I've used it with documents from Webull, Fidelity, and Charles Schwab. It can analyze statements, trade confirmations, and even emails to piece together your complete trading history. The AI doesn't just guess - it looks for patterns across all your documents. For example, it identified welcome emails and account statements showing when promotional stocks were deposited, then matched those with the specific stocks listed as "undetermined" on my 1099. It even found a pattern of small, identical share amounts that matched Webull's typical promotional stock quantities. Much more accurate than my memory!

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Yara Khalil

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Amina Toure

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Oliver Weber

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For these undetermined term transactions, especially tiny amounts from promotional stocks, here's what I did after consulting with my tax guy: Report them as short-term with $0 basis, and include a note about why you're reporting them this way. Most tax software lets you add explanatory notes. The worst case is that you pay slightly more tax (short vs long term rates), but the difference on such small amounts is literally pennies. It's not worth stressing over or potentially delaying your refund for such small potatoes.

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Ava Williams

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Is there a specific form or attachment I should use for the explanatory note? My tax software (TurboTax) doesn't seem to have an obvious place to add notes about specific transactions.

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Oliver Weber

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For TurboTax, you can add an explanation by going to the section where you enter the stock sale details. Look for something like "Add additional information" or "Explain this transaction" - it's usually near the bottom of the screen after you've entered the basic sale information. If you can't find that option, you can also create a separate statement titled "Explanation of Undetermined Term Transactions" as a PDF and attach it to your electronic return. In TurboTax, go to the "Miscellaneous Documents" or "Attachments" section (usually found in the final review stage) and upload your explanation there. Just keep it simple - explain these were likely promotional stocks with no available acquisition records, and you're reporting them as short-term with $0 basis as a conservative approach.

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FireflyDreams

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Just want to point out that Webull actually has a support line dedicated to tax document questions: 1-888-828-0618. I had similar issues and they were able to look up the acquisition dates of my promotional stocks even after I closed my account. Took about 20 minutes on hold but saved me tons of headache. They emailed me a statement showing when I received the free stocks. Might be worth a try before making any assumptions about dates.

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Did they charge you for providing that information? I closed my account with them last year too and they wanted to charge me $75 for retrieving old statements!

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Abigail Patel

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I went through this exact same situation last year with Robinhood promotional stocks! Here's what worked for me: First, check your email archives for ANY communication from Webull around the time you opened your account - they usually send notifications when promotional stocks are deposited, even if it's buried in promotional emails. If you can't find the exact dates, the IRS allows "reasonable estimates" for small amounts like this. Since you mentioned these were likely from account opening, use that date as your acquisition date. For the cost basis, promotional stocks are typically considered gifts with $0 basis, meaning the full sale amount is taxable as capital gains. For the holding period, if you're truly uncertain, reporting as short-term is the conservative approach since it results in higher tax (ordinary income rates vs capital gains rates). The IRS prefers when taxpayers err on the side of paying more rather than less. Don't skip reporting them entirely - even small amounts need to be reported, and the 1099-B means the IRS already knows about the sales. The good news is that for amounts this small ($12.46 and $8.75), the actual tax difference between short and long-term treatment is probably less than $5 total. Document your reasoning and move forward - you're overthinking what should be a minor part of your return!

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