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Angel Campbell

Help with Schedule C for aircraft leasebacks - filing questions for my aviation business

I'm down to the wire here and need some quick advice. I filed an extension earlier this year to get more familiar with tax laws and find a CPA, but got completely sidetracked. With only 2 days left to file, I'm planning to submit something reasonably accurate, pay whatever I owe, then have a CPA file an amended return later (I'm stuck in training for another week - realized how screwed I was when my calendar reminder popped up today). My situation: I work as an aviation mechanic, but I also have a single-member LLC that owns an aircraft. The aircraft is on a marketing agreement with a local flying club. I also do maintenance work for this club, including on my own aircraft (though I don't take any labor pay when working on my own plane). The flying club handles all the money with customers and vendors, then reconciles with my LLC. I've documented well over 500 invested hours furthering my business, so I'm confident this won't be classified as a hobby. I know I'll owe taxes on payments received from the club, but I'm confused about several aspects of Schedule C. This is my first time filling it out without help, and there's very little tax info specific to aviation businesses. My main questions: 1. What business code should I use? Nothing seems to fit perfectly, so I'm wondering if I should just use 99999? 2. For depreciation purposes, what type of asset would an aircraft on a leaseback arrangement be considered? Any guidance would be hugely appreciated before the filing deadline hits!

Payton Black

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The business code you want is actually 532400 - "Commercial and Industrial Machinery and Equipment Rental and Leasing." This covers aircraft rental/leasing businesses pretty perfectly. Don't use 99999 as that's only for truly unclassifiable businesses. For depreciation, your aircraft would be considered 5-year property under MACRS (Modified Accelerated Cost Recovery System). However, there are some important considerations with aviation assets. If your plane is used more than 50% for business purposes (which sounds like it is based on your description), you can take bonus depreciation, which could potentially let you deduct the full cost in year 1. If the aircraft was placed in service during 2024, you may be eligible for 80% bonus depreciation. Make sure you're tracking all legitimate business expenses related to your LLC - hangar fees, maintenance costs, insurance, interest on any aircraft loans, etc. These are all deductible against your rental income.

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Thank you so much! That business code sounds much better than the generic one. Since my aircraft is definitely used more than 50% for business (it's basically 100% a business asset), would you recommend I take the bonus depreciation? The plane was actually purchased last year, so I'm guessing that might affect things. Also, do you know if I need to file any additional forms beyond Schedule C for this type of business arrangement?

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Payton Black

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Since your aircraft was purchased last year, you'll need to determine which tax year it was placed in service and what bonus depreciation rate applied then. If it was 2023, the bonus rate would have been 80%. If it was 2022, it would have been 100%. I generally recommend taking bonus depreciation when eligible - it gives you a larger deduction upfront, though you need to consider if a large deduction now versus spreading it out makes more sense for your tax situation. For forms, you'll need Form 4562 for depreciation and amortization. Since you have a single-member LLC that's not electing to be taxed as a corporation, you'll report everything on your personal return - Schedule C, Schedule SE for self-employment tax, and possibly Form 8829 if you have a home office for the business. If you made any estimated tax payments throughout the year, make sure those are reported correctly too.

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Harold Oh

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Amun-Ra Azra

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Harold Oh

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Wait, how does this actually work? I've tried calling the IRS about my business and got nowhere. Does this service just keep dialing for you or something?

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Darcy Moore

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Yeah right... you expect me to believe you got through to a knowledgeable IRS agent who actually understood aviation tax rules? Most of them don't even understand basic Schedule C issues. Sounds like a waste of money to me. I've been filing for my Cherokee on leaseback for years and never once got useful info from the IRS.

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Gael Robinson

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Dana Doyle

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Some additional advice from an aviation business owner who's been doing this for years: Keep VERY detailed flight logs that clearly show business vs. personal use. The IRS loves to scrutinize aircraft expenses because they assume planes are toys, not legitimate business assets. Document everything - who flew, the business purpose, hours, etc. Also, make sure your lease/marketing agreement with the flying club is properly structured. It should clearly state responsibilities, insurance requirements, maintenance provisions, and how revenue is split. This document will be crucial if you're ever audited. For maintenance records - since you're doing your own work, document your time separately even if you're not charging for it. This helps establish the business purpose and substantiate your "material participation" for tax purposes.

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Thanks for this advice! For the flight logs, I have a digital system through the club that tracks everything, but should I be keeping separate records specifically for tax purposes? And regarding the marketing agreement - it's fairly basic. Should I look into getting a more detailed contract drafted?

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Dana Doyle

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The digital logs from the club are a good start, but I recommend keeping your own backup records specifically focused on the business aspects. For tax purposes, you want to document not just who flew and when, but the specific business purpose of each flight. For instance, if it was a rental, note the customer and purpose. If it was maintenance-related, document what was being tested or verified. Regarding your marketing agreement - yes, absolutely get a more detailed contract. A basic agreement likely won't provide adequate protection in case of an audit. Have an aviation attorney review it to ensure it properly establishes your relationship with the club, ownership rights, maintenance responsibilities, insurance requirements, and how income/expenses are allocated. A proper contract not only protects your business relationship but also helps establish the legitimacy of your business operation to the IRS.

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Liam Duke

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Quick question - is ur aircraft a single engine or multi? I'm looking at buying a Piper Seminole to put on leaseback with a flight school and wondering what kind of depreciation schedule to expect. Also what state are u in? I heard some states have personal property tax on aircraft that can really add up!

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Manny Lark

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Not OP, but I have a Seminole on leaseback in Florida. Multi-engine aircraft typically follow the same 5-year MACRS depreciation schedule, but your operating costs will be substantially higher than a single engine. The real question is whether you'll generate enough rental income to offset the higher costs of operating a twin. For a Seminole, you're looking at roughly $280-350/hr rental rate depending on your market, but your insurance will be significantly higher than a single engine aircraft. As for state taxes, Florida doesn't have personal property tax on aircraft, but many states do. I know California, Texas, and Georgia all have some form of property tax on aircraft that can run 1-2% of the value annually.

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