Help with Form 8889 Part 2 - Line 14a/b both $500 but excess contributions aren't showing as taxable??
I'm pulling my hair out trying to finish my taxes. Form 8889 Part 2 is completely confusing me! I have $500 for both line 14a and 14b, then line 14c and 15 are showing 0, which makes line 16 also 0. But from what I understand, the excess contributions from line 14b are supposed to be taxable income! Am I doing something wrong here? I've been contributing to my HSA through my employer's plan for the last two years. My total contribution for this year was $3,100 while the limit was $3,850, so I'm well under the limit. My spouse has a separate HSA too. I thought I had this figured out but now I'm second-guessing everything. Has anyone dealt with this before? Maybe I'm misunderstanding how excess contributions work? If line 14b shows $500, shouldn't that amount show up somewhere as taxable income? I've redone this section three times and keep getting the same result.
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Lilah Brooks
Form 8889 can definitely be confusing! Based on what you're describing, it sounds like you're actually completing the form correctly. Line 14a and 14b both being $500 doesn't necessarily mean you have excess contributions. Line 14a represents your total distributions from the HSA, while 14b represents distributions used for qualified medical expenses. If both are $500, that means all your distributions were used for qualified medical expenses, which is good! Line 14c is zero because you didn't use any distributions for non-qualified expenses (14a minus 14b). Line 15 is for additional taxable HSA distributions, which you don't have. And Line 16 is where taxable HSA distributions would appear if you had any - but since you used all distributions for qualified expenses, this is correctly showing zero. The "excess contributions" you're thinking about would appear elsewhere on the form - typically on Line 2 if you over-contributed to your HSA. Since you mentioned contributing $3,100 when the limit was $3,850, you're under the limit, not over - so there's no excess to report as taxable.
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Jackson Carter
•Wait, I'm confused too. I thought line 14b was specifically for excess contributions? If the OP has $500 there, doesn't that mean they over-contributed by $500? And if so, shouldn't that be getting taxed somewhere?
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Lilah Brooks
•Line 14b is not for excess contributions - it's for qualified medical expenses paid from your HSA distributions. The form can be confusing because the terminology isn't always intuitive. If you look at the form instructions, Line 14b asks for "Distributions included on line 14a that were used to pay qualified medical expenses." So having the same amount on both 14a and 14b ($500) means all distributions were used properly for medical expenses, which is why there's no additional tax. Excess contributions are typically addressed in Part I of Form 8889, not Part II. Part II is about distributions from the HSA, while Part I deals with contributions to the HSA.
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Ella rollingthunder87
Quick question - are you and your spouse on a family HDHP or do you each have individual plans? Because that affects your contribution limits for the HSA. If you have family coverage, the limit is higher than individual coverage. Also, did you make any additional contributions outside of your payroll deductions? Sometimes people forget about those and that's where the confusion comes in.
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Owen Jenkins
•We each have individual HDHPs through our separate employers. My plan is just for me, and her plan is just for her. We each contribute to our own separate HSAs. I didn't make any contributions outside of payroll. Everything was through my employer's plan via direct deposit from my paychecks. That's why I'm so confused about where this supposed excess contribution is coming from!
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Ella rollingthunder87
•That makes sense - if you each have individual HDHPs with separate HSAs, then you're right that your limit would be $3,850 for your own HSA. Since you only contributed $3,100, you're well under the limit. Based on what you're describing, there's absolutely no excess contribution. I think you're misinterpreting what line 14b represents. Line 14b is specifically for showing how much of your HSA distributions were used for qualified medical expenses. If both 14a and 14b show $500, that means you took $500 out of your HSA and used all of it for qualified medical expenses. Nothing is taxable in that scenario, which is why line 16 is correctly showing zero.
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Yara Campbell
Has anyone noticed that the instructions for Form 8889 are absurdly complicated? I swear the IRS intentionally makes this stuff confusing. I have a masters degree and still can't figure out if I'm doing my HSA right.
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Isaac Wright
•Totally agree! The instructions read like they were written by lawyers for other lawyers. The worst part is when they reference other publications or forms to explain a single line. It's like a never-ending rabbit hole.
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Morgan Washington
I think I see where your confusion is coming from! You're absolutely on the right track - if you contributed $3,100 against a limit of $3,850, you have no excess contributions at all. You're actually $750 UNDER the limit. The key thing to understand is that Form 8889 has two main parts that deal with completely different things: - Part I (lines 1-13): This is about CONTRIBUTIONS to your HSA - Part II (lines 14-21): This is about DISTRIBUTIONS from your HSA What you're seeing in Part II (lines 14a/14b both showing $500) means you withdrew $500 from your HSA and used all $500 for qualified medical expenses. That's actually perfect - no taxes owed! If you had actual excess contributions, they would show up in Part I of the form, specifically around lines 6-8, and would be subject to a 6% excise tax. But since you're under your contribution limit, this doesn't apply to you. Your form is filled out correctly. The $500 on line 14b represents qualified medical expenses, not excess contributions. No additional taxes are due on this amount.
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Quinn Herbert
•This explanation is so helpful! I've been staring at this form for hours and couldn't figure out why the IRS would make it so confusing to have two different "Part" sections that deal with completely different things. The way you broke down Part I vs Part II finally makes it click - contributions going IN versus distributions coming OUT. I was getting hung up on the terminology and thought "excess contributions" could appear anywhere on the form. So just to make sure I understand: if someone actually DID over-contribute to their HSA, that would show up in the early lines of Part I (around lines 6-8 like you mentioned), not in Part II at all? And the 6% excise tax would be calculated there too? Thanks for taking the time to explain this clearly - way better than the IRS instructions!
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