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Help! Excess social security and tier 1 RRTA tax withheld - how to claim on taxes?

I know I'm cutting it super close with tax season winding down, but I just realized the government still owes me money from my 2024 taxes due to excess social security and tier 1 RRTA tax withholding. I worked two jobs last year - one at a railroad company and another part-time gig. Between both employers, they withheld way more than the maximum social security and RRTA taxes than they should have. I think I paid about $11,800 in these taxes when the limit should've been around $9,900. I'm trying to figure out how to claim this on my tax return to get that money back. Is there a specific form I need to complete? Does anyone have experience with excess RRTA withholding specifically? I use TurboTax and I'm not seeing anything obvious for this situation. Really appreciate any help because I don't want to leave money on the table!

You're looking at Form 1040 Schedule 3, Line 11 for claiming excess social security and tier 1 RRTA tax that was withheld. This happens fairly often when someone works multiple jobs during the year since each employer withholds without knowing about the other job. For 2024, the wage base limit for Social Security tax is $168,600, with a 6.2% tax rate, making the maximum SS tax $10,453.20. If your combined withholding exceeds this amount, you're entitled to claim the excess on your return. The process is actually pretty straightforward in TurboTax - when you enter your W-2 information from both employers, the software should automatically calculate if you've had excess Social Security or RRTA tax withheld and add it to your refund. Just make sure you've entered all your W-2s completely and accurately.

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Thanks for this info! Quick question - what if one employer was railroad retirement and the other was regular social security? Do those get combined when calculating the excess or are they treated separately? Also, does TurboTax really catch this automatically? I feel like I might have missed this in previous years.

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Yes, for excess tax calculation purposes, Tier 1 RRTA taxes and Social Security taxes are treated as a single tax. The IRS combines them when determining if you exceeded the wage base limit. So the total amount withheld from both jobs for these taxes should be compared to the maximum allowable amount. TurboTax should catch this automatically when you enter multiple W-2s that push you over the wage base limit. However, it's always good to double-check. In the TurboTax review section, look for a line item about excess Social Security tax. If you're concerned you missed this in previous years, you can file an amended return for up to three years back to claim refunds you were entitled to.

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One thing to watch out for with excess social security and RRTA withholding - make sure you're looking at the right boxes on your W-2s! For regular employment, check Box 4 for Social Security tax withheld. For railroad employment, check Box 14 for Tier 1 tax. I messed this up last year and was claiming the wrong amounts. The maximum wage base for 2024 is $168,600, so if your combined wages from all jobs exceed that, you're definitely owed some money back.

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Can you explain a bit more about how the calculation works? I have two W-2s, one from BNSF Railroad and one from a part-time teaching job. Is it as simple as adding up all the social security and tier 1 RRTA withholding and comparing to the maximum?

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The calculation is pretty straightforward. Add up your wages subject to Social Security tax from your non-railroad job (Box 3 of W-2) and your wages subject to Tier 1 RRTA from your railroad job (usually in Box 14 labeled as "Tier 1"). If this total exceeds $168,600 for 2024, then you've overpaid. Next, add up the actual Social Security tax withheld (Box 4 of W-2) and the Tier 1 RRTA tax withheld (again, usually in Box 14). The maximum combined amount you should pay is $10,453.20 (which is $168,600 × 6.2%). Any amount over that is your excess withholding that you can claim as a credit on your tax return.

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I was in your exact situation last year! One thing that tripped me up was figuring out where to enter this in different tax software. If ur using TurboTax, after entering all W-2s, go to the "Deductions & Credits" section and look for "I'll choose what I work on" option. Then find "Credits" and look for "Other tax credits". There should be an option about excess social security and rrta. If turbotax doesn't catch it automatically (mine didnt for some reason), you might need to enter it manually. Just make sure you calculated the correct excess amount first!

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Thank you so much for this specific navigation path! I was poking around TurboTax and couldn't find where to enter this. I'll check the "Other tax credits" section tonight. Did you find that you had to do any extra calculations yourself or did TurboTax figure out the excess amount once you found the right section?

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This is such a common issue for railroad workers! I went through the exact same thing a couple years ago. One tip that saved me a lot of headache - when you're calculating your excess withholding, make sure you're not double-counting anything. The key thing to remember is that Tier 1 RRTA tax and Social Security tax are essentially the same thing for calculation purposes - they both count toward that $10,453.20 maximum for 2024. So you add up ALL the Tier 1 RRTA from your railroad job PLUS all the Social Security tax from your other job, and if it's more than the max, you get the difference back. Also, don't forget to check if you had excess Medicare withholding too if your combined wages were really high. That's a separate calculation but worth looking into. And definitely keep good records of this for next year - if you're working both jobs again in 2025, you might want to ask one employer to withhold less to avoid the same problem.

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