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Grace Thomas

Form 1065 and Schedule K-1 Question - Reporting Retained Partnership Income

I'm part of a 4-person LLC where we each have equal 25% ownership. We're set up as a pass-through partnership for tax purposes. I know partners get taxed on the LLC's income rather than the LLC itself being taxed. Our situation is that the LLC made about $3,165.40 in income last year, but we decided to keep all of that money in our business account rather than distributing it to any partners. When filling out Form 1065, I entered $3,165.40 on line 11 of the Analysis of Net Income section on page 5. My question is about line 2: Do I need to enter $3,165.40 in field a(iv) for General Partners/Partnership, or can I just put 0 since none of us actually received any distributions? I'm confused because we kept all profits in the business account.

That's a common point of confusion with partnership taxation. Even though you and your partners didn't physically take distributions, each partner is still considered to have received their share of the partnership income for tax purposes. This is called "phantom income" - you're taxed on it even though you didn't receive cash. On Form 1065 line 2, you should put $3,165.40 in field a(iv) for General Partners. The fact that you left the money in the business doesn't change each partner's tax obligation on their proportional share of income. Each partner will need to report their 25% share ($791.35) on their individual tax returns based on the Schedule K-1 you'll issue to them. Think of it this way - the decision to retain earnings in the business is made after the partnership has already earned the income. The tax code treats each partner as having received their share and then chosen to reinvest it back into the business.

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Grace Thomas

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Thanks for clarifying! So even though we physically kept all the money in the business account, for tax purposes it's like we each received our 25% and then put it back in? That makes more sense now. One follow-up question - do we still need to report distributions on line 19 of the 1065 form as zero, or should the distributions also show the full amount of income?

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You're exactly right - for tax purposes, it's treated as if each partner received their share and then reinvested it. That's why it's called "phantom income" - taxable without actual cash in hand. For line 19 (distributions), you would report zero if no actual distributions were made. This line is for tracking physical money that left the partnership and went to partners. So if all profits stayed in the business account, line 19 would show zero distributions, while the income is still allocated to partners on Schedule K-1.

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Just want to add that this is one reason why many small LLCs elect S-Corp status once they're profitable. With an S-Corp, you can take part of your money as salary (which is subject to self-employment tax) and leave the rest in the business as retained earnings (which avoids SE tax). With a partnership, all allocated income (even if retained in the business) is potentially subject to self-employment tax for general partners. Something to consider if your LLC continues to grow.

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Grace Thomas

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That's interesting about the S-Corp option. How difficult is it to change from partnership to S-Corp? Are there minimum salary requirements we would need to be aware of? Our LLC is still pretty small but we're planning for growth.

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Converting from a partnership to an S-Corp isn't particularly difficult. You file Form 8832 to elect to be taxed as a corporation, then file Form 2553 to elect S-Corp status. It can be done any time, but if you want it effective for the current tax year, there are deadlines to be aware of. For salary requirements, the IRS expects S-Corp owners to take a "reasonable salary" based on market rates for the work you do. There's no specific minimum, but it needs to be defensible if questioned. Too low a salary raises red flags because it looks like you're trying to avoid payroll taxes. For a small business, even a modest salary that's in line with what you'd pay someone else for the same work should satisfy the requirement.

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Jason Brewer

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Pro tip: Set aside money for taxes as you go! Even though the cash stays in your business account, each partner will owe taxes on their 25% share. I made this mistake my first year and had a surprise tax bill with no cash distribution to cover it. Some partnerships actually do a small tax distribution just to cover the partners' tax obligations on phantom income. Might be worth discussing with your partners for next year.

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Good point about tax distributions! My partnership agreement actually requires minimum distributions equal to the highest tax bracket percentage of allocated income specifically for this reason. Helps prevent cash flow issues for partners at tax time.

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