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Kinda suprised nobody mentioned this but filing ur taxes with just paystubs is technically not allowed. The IRS requires you to use the ACTUAL W-2 form your employer provides. If u file with paystub info and it matches the W-2 exactly, you might get away with it, but if theres ANY difference, ur looking at having to file an amended return which takes forever to process. Also alot of employers have early W-2 access online thru their payroll systems (ADP, Workday, etc). Check if u can get ur W-2 electronically before paper copies come out. My company has them online by Jan 15 usually, way before the paper copies arrive.
Thanks for mentioning this! I didn't even think to check if our employers offer early online access to W-2s. I'll definitely look into that right away. Is there any difference between the electronic version and the paper one that gets mailed out?
The electronic and paper W-2s contain exactly the same information - they're just delivered differently. The electronic version is official and can be used to file your taxes just like the paper copy. The advantage is you typically get access to it 1-2 weeks earlier than waiting for mail delivery. Just log into your company's HR portal or payroll system and look for a tax documents section. Some employers require you to specifically opt-in for electronic W-2 delivery, so check that setting too. If you can't find it, ask your HR department - they'll point you in the right direction.
One thing to be super careful about - your last paystub of the year often doesnt include taxable fringe benefits. My company gives us a holiday gift card every year ($100) and it shows up on W-2 as taxable income but never appears on paystubs. Also had a work anniversary gift that was taxable. Would have been wrong if I'd filed with just paystubs. Also my health insurance has a "imputed income" thing for covering my partner that only shows on W-2. Worth waiting the extra couple weeks imo.
19 Everyone keeps mentioning Schedule C, but don't forget about tracking your business expenses carefully throughout the year! I learned this the hard way with my consulting LLC. Keep receipts for EVERYTHING business-related: office supplies, software subscriptions, business travel, client meals, professional development, etc. Also track business mileage if you use your personal vehicle. You'll thank yourself when tax time comes!
23 Do you use any specific apps to track expenses? I've been just keeping physical receipts in a shoebox and I know there's got to be a better way lol.
19 I use QuickBooks Self-Employed and it's been a lifesaver. You can link your business accounts and credit cards, then just swipe right or left to categorize transactions as business or personal. It also has a mileage tracker that runs in the background on your phone. Another good option is Expensify if you don't need full accounting software. Wave is a free alternative that a lot of people like too. Anything is better than the shoebox method! I missed so many deductions my first year because receipts got lost or I forgot what expenses were for.
5 Just a heads-up that you'll likely need to make quarterly estimated tax payments as a sole proprietor LLC. This caught me by surprise my first year in business. The IRS generally expects you to pay taxes throughout the year, not just at filing time. You can use Form 1040-ES to calculate and submit these payments. I got hit with penalties my first year because I didn't know about this requirement.
8 Do you know what the threshold is for when you need to make quarterly payments? Like is there a minimum amount you need to earn?
Don't forget you can also try contacting the payroll provider your company used rather than the company itself! Most businesses use third-party payroll services like ADP, Paychex, or Gusto, and those companies often retain records and provide employee portals. If you know which service your employer used, try contacting them directly. I was able to get W2s from 3 years ago this way after my previous employer went out of business.
That's a great idea! I think they used ADP actually. Do you know if there's a general customer service number for employees to contact them or would I need a specific account number?
For ADP, try calling their W2 services line at 800-247-3237. You'll need to verify your identity with your SSN and some other basic info. If you had an online account with them previously, you might still be able to log in at https://my.adp.com even if you no longer work there. If you don't know what service they used, try asking former coworkers if you're still in touch with any. Even if you don't have an account number, most payroll providers can look you up by SSN and previous employer.
Umm, isn't anyone else wondering why this person needs their pre-tax income? The mortgage company should be looking at your adjusted gross income (AGI), not pre-tax income. That's what they use to calculate debt-to-income ratios. Just use line 11 on your 1040. Pre-tax doesn't matter for most loan qualifications.
Some lenders do look at gross income before certain deductions. Self-employed people especially get evaluated differently. My mortgage broker wanted to see my gross contractual income rather than just what showed up on my tax return after all the deductions.
That makes sense for self-employed people, but OP mentioned a W2 which typically means they're an employee. For W2 employees, lenders usually just want Line 1 of the 1040 or Box 1 of the W2. Pre-tax retirement contributions don't usually get added back in unless the loan is borderline and they need to squeeze out a bit more qualifying income. If they're trying to qualify for a specific loan amount, they might want to know the maximum income they can claim. But generally, mortgage underwriters follow pretty standardized guidelines for W2 employees.
I actually work in payroll and see this situation fairly often. Here's what's happening: The IRS has systems that flag unusual patterns in W2 reporting. Two simultaneous full-time jobs (80+ hours weekly) looks statistically unlikely, so the system flags it as potential identity theft. Some additional advice: Your friend should keep ALL documentation from both employers proving he works at both places (offer letters, paystubs, etc). Also, there's nothing illegal about working two full-time jobs (unless one employer specifically prohibits it in their contract), but it's worth checking both employee handbooks to make sure he's not violating any company policies.
Would this still happen if the two jobs are in different states? I'm considering taking a remote position while keeping my current job, but they're in different states and I'm worried about triggering something like this.
Yes, it would still likely trigger a flag even with jobs in different states. The IRS systems look at the total reported income under your SSN regardless of which states the W2s come from. In fact, having W2s from multiple states might make it even more likely to trigger their identity theft algorithms. For your remote position situation, just be prepared to potentially deal with this verification process. It's not a huge problem, just an extra step. Also be aware you'll need to file state tax returns for both states in most cases, which adds some complexity to your tax situation.
This happened to me last year! Two full-time remote jobs and got that identity theft letter. Just follow the instructions on the letter exactly. Mine was a 5071C and I had to verify through the ID.me process on the IRS website and answer questions about both jobs. Took about 10 minutes to verify online and my return was processed about 6 weeks later. No big deal but definitely respond asap!!
Diego Chavez
For your tax prep business, I'd recommend Chase Business Complete Banking. Monthly fee is waived if you maintain $2000 balance which is doable for most small businesses. They have decent online tools and you can deposit checks remotely which is super convenient during tax season when you're swamped.
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Emma Wilson
ā¢Do you know if they offer any sort of discount or special features for seasonal businesses? Since tax prep has that huge Jan-April rush and then slower periods.
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Diego Chavez
ā¢They don't have specific seasonal business features that I know of. But their transaction limits are fairly generous which handles the busy season well. During slower months, you can easily maintain the minimum balance to avoid fees since you're not drawing as much from the account. The mobile app is also really good for depositing client checks which saves tons of time during the busy season when you can't step away to visit a branch.
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Anastasia Smirnova
Everyone's talking banks but no one mentioned Square or PayPal business accounts? I run a small tax biz and like 80% of my clients pay electronically now. Square has a free business account with no minimums and their processing fees are reasonable. They even give you a business debit card.
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Sean O'Brien
ā¢Square's great but their transaction fees add up. 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction means you're losing like $3-4 on each $100 payment. Better to encourage direct bank transfers or checks.
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