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Form 1065 Partnership Representative Requirements for Foreign LLC Owners - BBA Opt-Out Options

Hey everyone, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on our situation. My business partner and I are both EU citizens living in Europe, and we own a multi-member LLC together that's treated as a Partnership for US tax purposes. For our 2023 tax filing, things were pretty straightforward - we only had one income source from outside the US and minimal expenses. Nothing complicated. The issue we're running into is with Form 1065. It's asking for a Partnership Representative (PR) who needs to be a US resident with a TIN, US address, and US phone number. Obviously, neither of us meets those requirements. We noticed there's an option to opt out of the Bipartisan Budget Act (BBA) partnership audit procedures, which would eliminate the need for a PR. But we're not sure about the implications: 1. What happens if we opt out of BBA when we're foreigners not filing US personal taxes? (Our country has a tax treaty with the US, and we pay taxes in our home country) 2. Is there a safe way to complete Form 1065 without designating a PR? 3. If we opt out of these audit procedures, does that make us personally liable for any LLC tax issues? 4. Would opting out require us to file any additional forms at the individual level in the US? 5. Is it realistic for us to complete Form 1065 correctly considering our simple finances? (No real estate, investment earnings, crypto, etc.) We're trying to do everything properly - report all income/expenses and show the correct split between partners - but this PR requirement is making it difficult to file ourselves. Thanks for any guidance!

Ella Cofer

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The Partnership Representative requirement can definitely be confusing for foreign LLC owners! Let me clarify a few things: If your partnership meets the requirements to be a "small partnership" (generally having 100 or fewer eligible partners and no ineligible partners), you can elect to opt out of the BBA centralized partnership audit regime. When you opt out, you'll need to complete Form 1065 Schedule B, question 25, and check "Yes" to indicate you're opting out. The implications for foreign owners: When you opt out, the IRS would conduct any audit at the individual partner level rather than at the partnership level. This means if there's an audit, the IRS would look to each partner individually rather than working through a representative. For your specific questions: 1. Opting out doesn't change your tax treaty protections - those still apply. 2. Yes, by opting out of BBA, you can complete Form 1065 without designating a PR. 3. Opting out doesn't create additional liability - you're already individually liable for your share of partnership income regardless. 4. No additional forms are triggered just by opting out, but you each still need to file Form 1040-NR if the partnership has effectively connected income. 5. With simple finances, completing Form 1065 should be doable, but consider whether you might benefit from professional help just to ensure all foreign reporting requirements are met.

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Kevin Bell

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But wait, I thought foreigns LLCs need to file a Form 5472 too? Does the opt-out effect this requirement? And what about FBAR if they have forign accts?

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Ella Cofer

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Form 5472 is required for foreign-owned single-member LLCs treated as disregarded entities, or for foreign-owned U.S. corporations - not for multi-member LLCs treated as partnerships. Since they have a multi-member LLC filing Form 1065, Form 5472 wouldn't apply in their case. Regarding FBAR (FinCEN Form 114), this is a separate requirement based on whether they have foreign financial accounts exceeding $10,000 at any point during the year. The BBA opt-out doesn't affect FBAR filing requirements at all. However, since they're indicating they're foreign residents with likely foreign accounts, those accounts wouldn't trigger FBAR for them as non-U.S. persons (assuming they're not U.S. citizens or green card holders).

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Felix Grigori

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Aisha Jackson

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As someone who's handled tax compliance for several foreign-owned partnerships, let me add a few important points: The BBA opt-out is definitely the way to go for smaller partnerships with foreign owners. However, make sure all your partners are "eligible" partners under the regulations - individuals, S corporations, C corporations, and certain types of estates are eligible. If you have partners that are partnerships, trusts, or disregarded entities, you might not qualify for the opt-out. Also, the opt-out election must be made annually on a timely-filed return (including extensions). If you miss making the election one year, you'll need a PR for that tax year.

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Do you know if there's a specific place on Form 1065 where we indicate we're opting out? And do we need to provide any additional explanation or just check a box?

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Aisha Jackson

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You'll make the election on Schedule B of Form 1065. Question 25 asks if you're electing out of the centralized partnership audit regime. Check "Yes" for this question. Then you'll need to complete Schedule B-2 (Election Out of the Centralized Partnership Audit Regime) where you provide information about each partner, including their name, TIN, and partner type. This is where you demonstrate that all partners are "eligible" partners. No additional statement or explanation is needed beyond properly completing Schedule B-2.

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Lilly Curtis

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Has anyone run into issues with banking or business operations by not having a Partnership Representative? We're trying to decide if we should just pay a US person to serve as our PR instead of opting out of BBA.

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Leo Simmons

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I haven't experienced any banking or business issues related to the PR status. Banks and business partners generally don't care about your tax filing elections - they're more concerned with your entity structure, EIN, and operational credentials. The PR is strictly an IRS requirement for handling audits. If you qualify for the BBA opt-out, there's really no advantage to paying someone to be your PR. The only time it might make sense is if you don't qualify for the opt-out (like if you have more than 100 partners or ineligible partner types) or if you specifically want centralized audit procedures.

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Emma Olsen

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I've been through this exact situation with my EU-based business partner last year! The BBA opt-out was definitely the right choice for us, and it's much simpler than it initially appears. Just to add to what others have mentioned - when we opted out, we didn't face any complications with our tax treaty benefits. Our accountant confirmed that the opt-out actually made things cleaner since it eliminated the need for ongoing PR correspondence with the IRS. One thing I'd recommend is double-checking that your partnership income is properly classified. Since you mentioned having income from outside the US, make sure you understand whether any of it constitutes "effectively connected income" (ECI). If it's not ECI, you likely won't need to file individual Form 1040-NR returns, which simplifies things considerably. Also, keep good records of your opt-out election. We created a simple file with copies of Schedule B and Schedule B-2 from our 1065 filing, along with notes about why we qualified for the election. It gives us peace of mind for future years. The whole process ended up being much more straightforward than we anticipated. With your simple financial situation, you should be able to handle this without too much difficulty once you understand the opt-out mechanics.

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This is really helpful, Emma! I'm curious about the "effectively connected income" classification you mentioned. Our LLC income comes from consulting services we provide to US companies, but we perform all the work from Europe. Would this be considered ECI? I'm trying to figure out if we'll need those individual 1040-NR forms on top of the partnership return. Also, when you say "keep good records of your opt-out election," do you mean we should document this decision beyond just filing the forms? Are there any other compliance steps we should be taking as foreign partners who opted out? Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through this process!

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