Filing a Tax Return for a 17 year old in WA state - Required or Optional?
Hi everyone, I could use some clarity on tax filing for my younger brother who just turned 17. He started his first job at a local restaurant last year and made about $8,700 for the whole year. He just received his W2 in the mail, and I noticed that the employer didn't withhold any Federal taxes throughout the year. I'm trying to figure out if he actually needs to file a tax return. From what I've been reading online, it seems like if someone under 18 makes less than $14,000, they might not need to file with the IRS? But I'm not 100% sure if this applies to his situation in Washington state. Also, some websites are saying there might be benefits to filing even when it's not required, but they don't really explain what those benefits might be. Would he get money back even though no federal taxes were taken out? Would filing now help him in some way for future tax years? Any advice would be really appreciated! I want to make sure we're doing the right thing here.
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Adaline Wong
The filing requirements depend on both income and filing status. For a dependent (which I'm assuming your brother is since you're asking), the threshold is different than for independent filers. If your brother is claimed as a dependent on someone else's return (like your parents), he would need to file if his earned income is more than $12,950 (for 2025). Since his income is $8,700, he's under this threshold and isn't required to file. As for benefits of filing even when not required - there are several! If your brother had ANY federal tax withheld, he would get that back as a refund. Even though you mentioned no federal taxes were withheld, filing establishes his income history which can be helpful for financial aid applications, apartment rentals, or loan applications in the future. It's also good practice for understanding how taxes work. Washington state doesn't have state income tax, so he wouldn't need to worry about a state return.
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Tate Jensen
•Thanks for explaining this! One more question - since he's working at the restaurant this year too and will probably make more than last year, should we fill out a new W-4 so they actually withhold some federal taxes? Or is it fine that they're not taking anything out?
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Adaline Wong
•Yes, if he expects to earn more than $12,950 this year, it would be a good idea to submit a new W-4 to his employer. This way, they'll withhold appropriate federal taxes throughout the year, which will prevent him from owing a lump sum at tax time. Even if he expects to earn less than the filing threshold, having small amounts withheld throughout the year can be easier to manage than potentially owing taxes later. The W-4 form has instructions to help determine the correct withholding amount based on his expected annual income.
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Gabriel Ruiz
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Misterclamation Skyblue
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Peyton Clarke
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Gabriel Ruiz
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Peyton Clarke
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Vince Eh
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Sophia Gabriel
•Wait, you can actually talk to a real IRS person? Every time I've called I get stuck in the automated system until it eventually hangs up on me. How much does this service cost?
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Tobias Lancaster
•This sounds too good to be true. The IRS phone lines are notoriously impossible to get through. Are you sure this isn't just connecting you to some random "tax expert" pretending to be from the IRS?
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Vince Eh
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Tobias Lancaster
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Ezra Beard
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if your brother had any self-employment income (like mowing lawns, babysitting, etc.) in addition to his W-2 job, the filing requirements are different. Self-employment income over $400 requires filing regardless of age or total income. Also, for future reference, your brother should check box "Exempt" on his W-4 if he expects to have no tax liability for the year. This is probably why no federal taxes were withheld - either he or his employer already did this.
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Tate Jensen
•That's a good point! He only has the restaurant job, no side gigs. But I'm not sure about the W-4 thing - I don't think he knew to check any specific box when he filled out his paperwork. Is that something the employer might have done automatically because of his age?
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Ezra Beard
•Employers shouldn't automatically mark anyone as exempt based on age alone. When your brother filled out his W-4, he would have had to specifically claim exemption from withholding by writing "Exempt" in the appropriate space. It's possible he did this without understanding it, or maybe the employer made an assumption based on his age and income level (which they shouldn't do). For his new W-4 this year, if he expects to earn more than the standard deduction ($12,950), he should definitely not claim exempt status, as he'll likely owe taxes.
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Statiia Aarssizan
One benefit of filing that no one mentioned - it starts the statute of limitations clock with the IRS. Without filing, the IRS theoretically has forever to come after you if they think you should have filed. I learned this the hard way when my son didn't file for his first job and got a notice 3 years later. It was a headache to resolve even though he didn't actually owe anything.
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Reginald Blackwell
•Is that really true? I thought if you don't owe any taxes, there's no penalty for not filing when you're under the threshold. Why would the IRS come after someone for not filing when they weren't required to?
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