Filed 2/6, ID Verification Reversed Automatically - Agent Says 9 Week Wait for Refund?
Filed and was accepted on 02/15/2024. My account apparently went into ID verification for about two weeks or so. Interestingly, the ID verification seems to have fallen off on its own last week, which I find somewhat unusual since I didn't actually complete any verification process myself. I just got off the phone with an IRS agent who explained that the processing of my return officially started on 02/24 after the ID verification flag was reversed automatically. She mentioned that it would potentially take up to 9 weeks from that date to receive my refund. Has anyone possibly gone through something similar before and perhaps received their refund earlier than the estimated timeframe? I'm trying to plan accordingly for some upcoming medical expenses for my mother that I'm helping with.
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Sofia Ramirez
This is what we call an Automated Verification Reversal (AVR) in the processing pipeline. The IRS's Taxpayer Protection Program (TPP) initially flagged your return for potential identity verification, but their internal Cross-Reference Database (CRD) likely validated your identity through alternative data points without requiring manual verification. The concerning part is the 9-week timeframe. While technically within their guidelines, this suggests your return may have been routed to the Error Resolution System (ERS) or Integrity Verification Operation (IVO) for additional review after the identity issue was cleared. This doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with your return, but it does imply a more thorough examination is occurring.
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Dmitry Volkov
Thanks for breaking this down so clearly! I went through something similar last year when my return got flagged, but I had to manually verify. It's interesting to hear they sometimes reverse these automatically - makes me feel better about the system actually working the way it should sometimes.
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StarSeeker
I'm seeing this happen a lot more this year! Do you know if the IRS has changed their verification algorithms for 2024? I'm wondering if they're trying to reduce the verification burden by implementing more sophisticated backend checks.
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Ava Martinez
I'm relieved to hear this is a known process. When my return was flagged last year on March 3rd, I had to go through the full ID verification and it took exactly 6 weeks after verification to get my refund. So the 9-week estimate actually sounds about right based on my experience.
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Miguel Ortiz
The IRS website actually mentions this process in their FAQ section. They've been working on reducing unnecessary verification steps since 2022. If you check the "Where's My Refund" tool regularly, you might see movement sooner than the 9 weeks they quoted.
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Zainab Omar
I had almost the exact same situation last filing season! Filed in February, got flagged for ID verification, then it mysteriously cleared itself after about 10 days. The IRS told me 9 weeks too, but I got my refund in just over 4 weeks. What really helped me understand what was happening was using https://taxr.ai to analyze my transcript once it became available. The system explained all those cryptic codes and actually predicted my refund date within 2 days of when I received it. It was like having an interpreter for all that IRS jargon! I remember checking my transcript daily and seeing all those different codes pop up with no idea what they meant until I ran it through taxr.
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Connor Murphy
I'm always skeptical of these tax tools that claim to predict refund dates. ā¢ How accurate is it really? ā¢ Does it require personal information? ā¢ How does it know more than the IRS tells us directly? Seems like it might just be making educated guesses based on the same information we all have access to.
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Yara Sayegh
As someone who lives paycheck to paycheck, I tried this tool last month when my refund was delayed and my landlord was breathing down my neck. It actually helped me understand that my delay was due to the PATH Act verification (I claimed EITC) and not something more serious. Gave me peace of mind knowing exactly what was happening instead of just guessing.
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NebulaNova
Does this tool actually access your transcript directly, or do you need to upload it yourself? And can it really tell the difference between a standard processing delay and something more serious like an audit flag?
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Keisha Williams
What you're experiencing is like when your car gets flagged at a security checkpoint, but then the guard realizes you're on the approved list after all. The IRS system initially puts up a roadblock, then their automated system essentially says "Oh wait, we know this person" and waves you through. I'm actually surprised by how complicated this has become. In the past, ID verification was almost always a manual process requiring taxpayer action. This new automated reversal system is like having a smart doorbell that sometimes recognizes family members without them needing to ring the bell. Based on what I've seen with clients, you'll likely receive your refund in 4-6 weeks rather than the full 9. The IRS tends to overestimate timeframes to manage expectations.
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Sofia Ramirez
Do you think there's any value in the OP contacting the IRS again in a few weeks to check status? Or would that potentially flag the return for additional review?
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Zainab Omar
I've seen these auto-reversals happening more frequently this year too. Do you think it has anything to do with the IRS's new technology funding finally being implemented?
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Keisha Williams
Great explanation. I wonder if the automated reversal is based on their internal verification against information they already have on file from previous years' returns?
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Paolo Conti
This actually happened to me too! The agent told me they're prioritizing returns that got caught in these verification loops to try to speed up processing. Has anyone else heard this?
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Paolo Conti
I went through this exact ID verification drama last month. Called the IRS every day for a week straight and kept getting the dreaded "due to high call volume" message before being disconnected. Talk about a comedy of errors! š© Finally used Claimyr (https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c) to get through to an agent after my coworker recommended it. They basically wait on hold for you and call when an agent picks up. Got connected in about 25 minutes when I'd been trying for days on my own. The agent I spoke with confirmed my ID verification had been auto-reversed (just like yours) and gave me a much more realistic timeline of 4-5 weeks instead of 9. I'm a bit worried they're just telling everyone 9 weeks as a worst-case scenario, but at least I got some clarity.
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Amina Diallo
Did the agent happen to mention any specific codes on your account? When I went through something similar in 2023, my transcript showed exactly 3 different codes: 570 (refund hold), 971 (notice issued), and then 571 (hold released). I'm wondering if your timeline might be different based on which specific verification path you were routed through?
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Oliver Schulz
According to IRM 21.5.6.4.35.3 (Internal Revenue Manual), automated identity verification reversals typically occur when the system cross-references existing taxpayer data points that satisfy at least 3 of their 5 verification criteria without manual intervention. The standard processing timeframe post-reversal should be 3-5 weeks, not 9 weeks as stated by the representative. I would suggest monitoring your tax transcript rather than relying on WMR. The transcript will show a TC 971 with Action Code 129 when the verification flag was applied, and should show a corresponding TC 971 with Action Code 131 when it was automatically reversed. Once you see cycle codes resuming after that point, you're back in normal processing.
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Sofia Ramirez
Can you clarify which transcript specifically would show these codes? The Account Transcript or the Return Transcript? I've been looking at mine and can't seem to find these specific codes you mentioned.
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Zainab Omar
This is fascinating. Do you know if these automatic reversals are more common for people who have consistent filing patterns year over year? I'm wondering if my changing jobs and moving to a new state might trigger more scrutiny.
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Keisha Williams
Is there any truth to the rumor that filing early increases these verification flags? I've heard some tax preparers recommend waiting until late February to avoid getting caught in these verification loops.
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Paolo Conti
I had this exact situation last year! The TC 971/131 code showed up on my transcript on March 12th, and I received my refund on April 5th - so about 3.5 weeks later. The agent definitely gave you a worst-case scenario timeline.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
Did the agent mention anything about the specific date when your account was flagged for verification? I'm tracking similar cases, and it seems like returns filed between February 1st and February 15th, 2024 had a higher incidence of these automatic verification flags. Also, did you file with any credits like EIC or CTC that might have triggered additional review under the PATH Act?
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Sofia Ramirez
I filed on February 3rd and had the exact same experience - verification flag that cleared itself after about 12 days. Received my refund on March 21st, which was about 5 weeks after the verification cleared. So much faster than the 9 weeks they quoted me!
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Zainab Omar
Has anyone noticed if these verification issues are more common with certain tax preparation software? I used FreeTaxUSA this year and got flagged, but never had issues with TurboTax in previous years.
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