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Jenna Sloan

Extremely basic question on how to read the tax bracket chart - married vs individual income?

So I'm working on our taxes and I have what's probably a super basic question about how to read the tax bracket chart. My wife and I both work and I'm trying to figure out our marginal tax rate. Do I need to look at our INDIVIDUAL incomes separately to determine each of our marginal tax rates? Or is it based on our combined HOUSEHOLD income since we're married filing jointly? For example, if I make $52k and my wife makes $48k (so $100k total), would each of our last dollars earned be taxed at 12% (if looking at individual incomes) or 22% (if looking at our combined income)? I feel dumb asking this but I want to make sure I understand how this works for some financial planning we're doing. Thanks!

When you file married filing jointly, you're taxed based on your COMBINED household income. The tax brackets for married filing jointly are different than for single filers. So in your example, if you and your spouse together make $100k, your marginal tax rate would be 22% (assuming 2025 tax year). This means your last dollar earned would be taxed at 22%. But remember, not all your income is taxed at 22% - only the portion that falls into that bracket. The first portion of your income falls into the 10% bracket, then the next chunk at 12%, and only the amount that exceeds the 12% bracket threshold gets taxed at 22%. This is called a progressive tax system.

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Jenna Sloan

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Thanks for explaining! So it doesn't matter how much each of us makes individually - it's all combined first and then taxed according to the married filing jointly brackets? Also, does this mean we're both in the same tax bracket regardless of our individual incomes? Like if I make $60k and she makes $40k, we're both still in the 22% bracket on our last dollars earned?

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Correct, it doesn't matter how much each of you makes individually when filing jointly. Your incomes are combined first, and then that total is what determines which tax brackets you fall into using the married filing jointly tax table. Yes, you would both effectively be in the same marginal bracket. If together you make $100k filing jointly, then conceptually your last dollars earned (regardless of which spouse earned them) would be taxed at 22%. It's treated as one economic unit rather than tracking each person's income separately.

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Jenna Sloan

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That's a good point I hadn't considered! We're in Illinois - do you know if they use the combined income approach too or do they have different rules?

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Illinois uses your federal adjusted gross income as the starting point for state taxes, so they'll use your combined income since you're filing jointly on your federal return. Illinois has a flat tax rate (not progressive brackets like federal), so all your income is taxed at the same rate. Your state tax will be much simpler to calculate than your federal taxes since you won't need to worry about different brackets. Just your combined income multiplied by the state tax rate, minus any Illinois-specific deductions or credits you qualify for.

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One thing no one mentioned - when you're married filing jointly, you get a wider tax bracket than filing single. For example, the 22% bracket starts at a higher amount for MFJ than for single filers. So if you were single making $50k, more of your income might be in the 22% bracket than when you're married filing jointly with $100k combined income. It's one of the benefits of filing jointly!

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Drew Hathaway

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That's true for most income levels, but there can actually be a "marriage penalty" at higher income levels where two high earners end up paying more married than they would if they were single! But for most people like OP, filing jointly is beneficial.

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This is such a great question and the responses here really clarify things! I was making the same mistake of thinking about our individual incomes separately when we file jointly. One thing that helped me understand this better was realizing that when you're married filing jointly, the IRS essentially treats you as one economic unit. So it doesn't matter if one spouse makes $80k and the other makes $20k, or if you both make $50k each - either way, you're working with $100k total household income and using the married filing jointly tax brackets. The progressive system means that even though your marginal rate might be 22% on that $100k combined income, your effective tax rate (the percentage of your total income that actually goes to taxes) will be much lower since the first portions of your income are taxed at 10% and 12%. Thanks for asking this - it's definitely not a dumb question and I'm sure many people have the same confusion!

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Exactly! The "one economic unit" concept really drives it home. I was also confused about this when my husband and I first started filing jointly. What really helped me was when someone explained that it's like putting all your money in one big pot first, and THEN applying the tax brackets to that combined amount. So whether I earned $60k and he earned $40k, or we both earned $50k each, the IRS just sees $100k total and taxes it the same way. The effective vs marginal rate distinction is so important too. I used to panic thinking our entire income would be taxed at 22%, but it's only the dollars that fall into that highest bracket. Most of our money is still being taxed at the lower rates of 10% and 12%. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly - this thread has been super educational for understanding how married filing jointly actually works!

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