Do I need to mail Form 8949 for futures trading loss or can I send a similar statement?
I'm totally confused about these tax forms and hoping someone can help me out. I had some futures trading losses this past year (not a fun experience, btw) and received a 1099-B from my trading platform showing the loss as a lump sum. When filing with TurboTax, I reported this in the 1099-B section since that's what I received from the company. I didn't report individual sales since my 1099-B only showed the total loss as one number. Now after filing, TurboTax is telling me I need to send Form 8453 to the IRS. On the 8453 form, there's a checked box saying I need to attach: "Form 8949, Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets (or a statement with the same information), if you elect not to report your transactions electronically on Form 8949" Does this mean I can just submit my original 1099-B with Form 8453 instead of filling out Form 8949 separately? Do I really need to create a whole new document when the 1099-B already shows everything as a lump sum? Any advice would be super appreciated! This is stressing me out :
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Isabel Vega
The checkbox on Form 8453 is referring to supplementary documentation for transactions that weren't reported electronically. Let me explain what you need to do in your situation. Since you received a 1099-B showing your futures trading losses as a lump sum, you have two options. You can either fill out Form 8949 showing this consolidated loss (even though it's just one line) or provide a statement with equivalent information. Your 1099-B from the trading platform could serve as this statement if it contains all the required information that would appear on Form 8949. The key is making sure whatever you send contains the necessary details: description of property, purchase date, sale date, proceeds, cost basis, and any adjustment codes if applicable. Many brokers provide substitute statements specifically designed to replace Form 8949.
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Laila Prince
•Thanks for explaining! So my 1099-B does show the total proceeds, cost basis, and the resulting loss, but it doesn't break down individual transactions or show purchase/sale dates since it's aggregated. Would this still work as a substitute statement, or do I need to create something more detailed?
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Isabel Vega
•Your 1099-B might not be sufficient as a substitute statement if it doesn't include the dates and individual transaction details. Since you have futures trading, which follows special tax rules (Section 1256 contracts are reported on Form 6781, not Form 8949), you should verify you're using the correct forms. For Section 1256 contracts like futures, you actually report them on Form 6781 "Gains and Losses from Section 1256 Contracts and Straddles" rather than Form 8949. These are subject to the 60/40 rule (60% long-term, 40% short-term capital gains treatment). If TurboTax directed you to Form 8949 for futures, double-check that you entered everything in the right section.
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Dominique Adams
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Harold Oh
Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - futures trading is typically reported on Form 6781 (Gains and Losses From Section 1256 Contracts and Straddles), not Form 8949. These are considered Section 1256 contracts and get marked-to-market treatment with the 60/40 rule (60% long-term capital gains treatment and 40% short-term). If TurboTax is directing you to Form 8949, you might have entered the information in the wrong section. Double-check that you selected futures trading when entering your 1099-B information. This could be why you're getting confused about what forms to mail.
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Laila Prince
•Oh wow, I had no idea! That might explain my confusion. TurboTax never mentioned Form 6781 during my filing process. Is there a way to check if I've entered everything correctly without starting over completely?
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Harold Oh
•You can review your completed tax return in TurboTax to see which forms were generated. Look through the PDF and see if Form 6781 is included. If not, you probably need to go back and revise your entry. Go to the investments/capital gains section in TurboTax and look specifically for a section about "Section 1256 contracts" or "Futures Trading." You might need to delete your original entry and re-enter it in the correct section. It's better to fix this now than to have issues later with the IRS questioning why futures were reported incorrectly.
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Amun-Ra Azra
Quick tip from someone who trades futures regularly: futures contracts are NOT reported on Form 8949! They're Section 1256 contracts that go on Form 6781. They get special 60/40 tax treatment (60% long-term capital gains, 40% short-term).
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Summer Green
•This is correct. I'm an active trader and the distinction matters a lot for your tax bill. Section 1256 contracts (futures, foreign currency contracts, etc.) are marked-to-market at year end and get that special 60/40 split treatment. This is usually more favorable than the short-term capital gains rates that apply to most securities trading if held less than a year.
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Luca Marino
I went through this exact same confusion last year with my futures trading losses! Everyone here is absolutely right - futures are Section 1256 contracts that belong on Form 6781, not Form 8949. This is a huge distinction that can significantly impact your tax liability. The 60/40 treatment for Section 1256 contracts means 60% of your gains/losses are treated as long-term capital gains (taxed at lower rates) and 40% as short-term, regardless of how long you actually held the positions. This is usually much more favorable than regular securities trading. If TurboTax directed you to Form 8949, you likely entered your futures trading in the wrong section. Look for a section specifically for "Section 1256 contracts" or "mark-to-market" trading when you go back to review. Your 1099-B from futures trading should have different codes than regular stock trading - check if it shows code "A" or other Section 1256 indicators. You'll want to correct this before mailing anything to the IRS, as reporting futures on Form 8949 instead of Form 6781 could trigger unnecessary scrutiny or require amendments later.
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