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Lucas Parker

Do I need to file a separate return with Form 8814 when my child has actual capital gains (not distributions)?

I'm trying to figure out if I need to file a separate tax return for my daughter who's 12. I'm looking at Form 8814 (Parents' Election to Report Child's Interest and Dividends) and getting confused about one specific thing. My daughter has about $2400 in total income for the year - mostly interest and dividends from some investments my parents set up for her. But here's where I'm stuck: she also had a stock that did a split last year, and instead of getting fractional shares, the brokerage paid her $22 in cash in lieu of those partial shares. This showed up on her 1099-B as a long-term capital gain. Form 8814 specifically mentions "capital gain distributions" but doesn't say anything about regular capital gains like this. I was planning to use Form 8814 to report her income on our return, but now I'm wondering if I need to file a separate 1040 for her because of this capital gain from the stock split. Anyone dealt with this before? Really appreciate any help sorting this out!

Donna Cline

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You're right to question this - Form 8814 does have a specific limitation regarding capital gains. The form allows you to report your child's interest, dividends, and capital gain distributions on your return, but actual capital gains (like from the sale of stock or cash in lieu of fractional shares) aren't covered by this election. Since your daughter received $22 from a stock split that's being reported as a long-term capital gain on a 1099-B, technically this falls outside what Form 8814 is designed to handle. The IRS distinguishes between capital gain distributions (which are essentially dividends paid by mutual funds from their realized gains) and actual capital gains from selling assets. In strict technical terms, you would need to file a separate return for your daughter to properly report that capital gain. However, given the small amount ($22), some tax professionals might take different approaches here. If you want to be 100% by the book, a separate return would be appropriate.

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But isn't there some minimum threshold before a kid needs to file? Like if they don't make much money overall? $22 seems so tiny to require a whole separate tax return.

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Donna Cline

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Yes, there are filing thresholds for children. For 2024 (filing in 2025), a dependent child generally doesn't need to file a return if their unearned income (interest, dividends, capital gains) is less than $1,250. However, when you elect to use Form 8814, you're essentially saying "I'll report my child's income on my return instead of filing separately for them." The catch is that Form 8814 only covers certain types of unearned income. Since there's a capital gain that's not a distribution, it technically falls outside what Form 8814 allows, which is why this creates the question of whether a separate return is needed regardless of the amount.

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Sydney Torres

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I'm a bit late to this discussion, but I wanted to add that I've handled this differently in different years. If my kid has only a tiny amount of capital gains (like your $22), I've included it on Form 8814 and never had any issues. But last year when my son had about $500 in gains from selling some stock his grandparents gifted him, I filed a separate return. My approach is basically: if the capital gain is trivial, include it on Form 8814. If it's substantial enough to possibly trigger any scrutiny, file the separate return. The IRS seems to be practical about these things in my experience.

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Where's the line though? Is $100 trivial? $200? At what point do you decide it's worth filing a separate return? Just curious what your threshold is.

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Sydney Torres

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I don't have a hard number, but I generally think about it in proportions. If the capital gain is less than 5% of the child's total unearned income, I consider it trivial. In my son's case, the $500 gain was almost 25% of his total income, so it seemed significant enough to warrant a separate return. I also consider whether there might be any other tax implications. If the gain is so small that it wouldn't change the tax calculation meaningfully even if reported separately, then including it on Form 8814 seems reasonable. But if it might trigger other provisions or calculations, that's when I file separately.

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Caleb Bell

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Has anyone considered that the $22 might not even need to be reported at all? I'm pretty sure there's a de minimis rule for small capital gains somewhere in the tax code.

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Donna Cline

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While there are various de minimis exceptions in tax law, there isn't a general exception for small capital gains - they're technically taxable regardless of amount. What you might be thinking of is that if your total income is below the filing threshold, you wouldn't need to file at all. The confusion here stems from the Form 8814 limitation specifically, not whether the gain itself is taxable. If using Form 8814, the question becomes how to handle a type of income that doesn't fit within the form's parameters, even if that amount is very small.

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Based on all the discussion here, it sounds like there are a few practical approaches for your $22 capital gain situation. The strict technical interpretation says Form 8814 doesn't cover actual capital gains, but several people have had success including small amounts like this without issues. Given that your daughter's total income is $2400 and this gain represents less than 1% of that, I'd personally lean toward including it on Form 8814. The administrative burden of filing a separate return for such a tiny amount seems disproportionate to the potential benefit. That said, if you want to be absolutely certain you're following the letter of the law, filing a separate return would be the safest approach. You could also consider reaching out to the IRS directly (using one of the callback services mentioned here to avoid the hold times) to get their official guidance on your specific situation. Either way, document your reasoning in case you ever need to explain your approach later. The practical reality is that for $22, this is unlikely to ever become an issue, but having your thought process documented is always good practice.

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Ava Thompson

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This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation for my 10-year-old son who had about $35 in capital gains from some fractional share cash payments. Reading through all these responses has given me much more confidence about how to handle it. I think the key takeaway is that while the technical rules might suggest filing separately, the practical reality for such small amounts makes Form 8814 inclusion reasonable. The suggestion about documenting the reasoning is smart too - I'll make a note in my tax files explaining why I included the small gain on Form 8814. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences with the AI tools and IRS callback service too. It's good to know there are options if I need more specific guidance in the future.

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Amara Eze

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I went through this exact same situation last year with my 14-year-old daughter who had about $18 in capital gains from a stock split cash payment. After researching extensively and consulting with my CPA, here's what I learned: The IRS Publication 929 does provide some flexibility for "incidental" capital gains when using Form 8814. While the form doesn't explicitly mention regular capital gains, there's guidance that allows including small amounts that don't materially affect the tax calculation. For your $22 gain, I'd recommend including it on Form 8814 line 1a with your daughter's other unearned income. The key factors that support this approach: 1. The amount is less than 1% of her total income 2. It won't change her tax liability in any meaningful way 3. Filing a separate return would create unnecessary administrative burden Just make sure to keep good records showing the 1099-B and your reasoning for including it on Form 8814. In the unlikely event of any questions later, you can demonstrate that you made a reasonable interpretation based on the circumstances. The practical reality is that the IRS isn't going to scrutinize a $22 capital gain on a child's return, especially when it's clearly reported and the family is making a good faith effort to comply with the tax laws.

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CosmicCruiser

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This is exactly the kind of real-world guidance I was hoping to find! Your experience with a similar situation and the reference to Publication 929 is really reassuring. I've been going back and forth on this for days, worried about making the wrong choice. The point about it being less than 1% of total income really puts it in perspective - $22 out of $2400 is truly incidental. And you're right that the administrative burden of filing a separate return seems way out of proportion to the potential benefit. I'm going to follow your approach and include it on Form 8814 line 1a, making sure to document everything clearly. Thanks for sharing the specific factors you considered - that gives me a solid framework for making this decision confidently.

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CosmicVoyager

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I just wanted to chime in as someone who's been through this exact scenario multiple times with my three kids over the years. The $22 capital gain from fractional shares is such a common situation now with so many brokerages handling stock splits this way. Here's my take after dealing with this probably 6-7 times: include it on Form 8814. I've never had any issues doing this, and I think the reasoning others have shared here is sound. The IRS has bigger fish to fry than a $22 capital gain on a child's return, especially when you're clearly trying to report everything properly. What I do is keep a simple spreadsheet each year documenting these decisions. For example: "2024 - Daughter Sarah - $22 LT capital gain from XYZ Corp fractional shares included on Form 8814 line 1a due to de minimis amount (0.9% of total unearned income)." Takes 30 seconds and gives you documentation if you ever need it. The key is being consistent and reasonable. If next year she has $500 in capital gains, then I'd file separately. But for these tiny amounts from fractional share payouts? Form 8814 all the way.

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