Do I need to file Schedules L and M-1 for my one-person S-corp when under $250,000 threshold?
So I restarted my S-corp production company in 2023 after it was basically on life support during the pandemic years. My total income was about $80,315 for the year (I know, I'm doing this last minute), but only ended up with $1,270 after covering all the restart expenses. I didn't take any salary because honestly there wasn't enough profit after putting money back into getting things running again. I've been researching and seeing mixed info about whether I need to file Schedules L and M-1 with my 1120S. Most guidance I've found mentions a $250,000 threshold for these schedules being required, and I'm obviously way under that amount. For a small one-person production company like mine, do you think I should still include Schedules L and M-1 when filing my 1120S even though I'm under the threshold? Just want to make sure I'm doing this right and not asking for trouble. Thanks for any advice!
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AstroAdventurer
You're right that Schedules L and M-1 are generally not required for S-corporations with total receipts under $250,000 and total assets under $250,000 at the end of the tax year. Since your S-corp falls well below that threshold at $80,315 in total income, you're not technically required to file these schedules. However, there are a few situations where you might want to consider filing them anyway. If you're taking losses, have debt basis issues, or have complex transactions that affect your basis in the S-corp, including these schedules can provide helpful documentation if you're ever audited. They can also help track your basis in the company, which is important for determining the tax treatment of distributions.
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Jamal Carter
•Thanks for the info! I do have a small business loan I took out to help with the restart expenses. Would that qualify as a "debt basis issue" that might make filing these schedules a good idea? Also, I'm planning to take a salary next year if things keep improving - would having these schedules help establish a pattern for that?
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AstroAdventurer
•Yes, having a business loan does create a situation where tracking basis becomes more important. Filing Schedule L would document your loan liability and corresponding assets, which can be helpful if questions ever arise about your debt basis. Regarding your salary plans, these schedules wouldn't directly impact your ability to take a salary, but they do create a more complete financial picture of your business. Having this documentation shows you're treating the business seriously, which is always beneficial when you start taking a salary from an S-corp. Remember that once your business becomes profitable, the IRS generally expects you to take a reasonable salary before taking distributions.
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Mei Liu
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Liam O'Sullivan
•Did it help you figure out how to fill out those schedules too? I'm in a similar boat but have no idea what values to put where on Schedule L especially. The form is confusing with all those beginning/end of year columns.
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NeonNova
Just to add another perspective - I've done S-corp returns for 5 years now and have always included Schedules L and M-1 regardless of size. Why? Because they tell the story of your business financially. Even though not required, they show what assets/debts the business holds and reconcile book/tax differences. This has been super helpful documentation when getting business loans later. Plus, if you ever have an audit, having these already completed saves headaches. If you're using decent tax software, it really isn't much extra work to complete them. Better to have too much documentation than too little in my experience.
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Dylan Campbell
•Do you think it creates any additional audit risk to file these when not required? I've heard conflicting things about "poking the bear" with extra schedules vs just filing the minimum required.
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NeonNova
•In my experience, filing these additional schedules doesn't increase audit risk - if anything, it may reduce it. The IRS is generally more interested in returns that appear to be hiding information rather than providing extra documentation. The audit selection process focuses primarily on income discrepancies, unusual deductions, and statistical anomalies compared to similar businesses. Simply providing a more complete financial picture with Schedules L and M-1 doesn't typically trigger additional scrutiny. In the rare case you do get selected for audit, having this documentation already prepared actually makes the process smoother since you've already organized and reported the information they'd likely request anyway.
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Sofia Hernandez
Super practical advice for a one-person S-corp like yours: if you're using tax software like TaxAct Business or H&R Block Business, they'll walk you through these schedules pretty easily. The balance sheet info for Schedule L is basically just what you own and what you owe at beginning/end of year. M-1 reconciles book income vs tax income differences. Takes maybe 15 extra minutes but gives you better documentation. I keep a simple spreadsheet tracking my assets, liabilities and equity throughout the year which makes filling these out a breeze. Might be worth starting that practice even if you don't file the forms this year!
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Jamal Carter
•That's a great suggestion about tracking with a spreadsheet. Do you have a template or specific format you follow? I'm using QuickBooks but honestly not sure I've set it up correctly for tracking the balance sheet stuff properly.
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