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Freya Larsen

Desperate Question: Can I retroactively elect S-Corp status for 2022?

I'm in a bit of a panic right now about my 2022 taxes. I filed an extension earlier this year, and I'm just now getting around to completing everything (had some personal stuff going on that prevented me from tackling this sooner). Here's my issue - I just realized that my significant NOL (Net Operating Loss) from 2021 doesn't reduce my self-employment tax liability for 2022. When I ran the numbers, I nearly fell out of my chair seeing how much self-employment tax I'm going to owe! I'm wondering if there's ANY way I can retroactively elect S-Corp status for 2022 at this late stage? Is this even possible? I know S-Corps can help reduce self-employment taxes since only reasonable salary is subject to employment taxes. Has anyone done this or know if there's some loophole I might be able to use? I'm seriously stressing about this tax bill. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Omar Hassan

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but retroactive S-Corp elections for 2022 are pretty much impossible at this point. The IRS has strict deadlines for making this election - you needed to file Form 2553 either within 2 months and 15 days after the beginning of the tax year (March 15, 2022 for calendar year businesses) or at any time during the preceding tax year. There is a late election relief provision, but it only applies if you file within 3 years and 75 days of the date the election should have been made. However, you would need to show reasonable cause for filing late AND you would have needed to file and report as an S-Corp for 2022 already - which you haven't done. Your NOL situation is common - many people don't realize that NOLs offset income taxes but not self-employment taxes. That's because SE tax is essentially your contribution to Social Security and Medicare, which the IRS sees as separate from income tax.

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Freya Larsen

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Well that's really disheartening to hear. I guess it makes sense they have strict deadlines, but man, this hurts. Do you know if there's any way to reduce SE tax liability at this point, or am I just stuck with the full bill?

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Omar Hassan

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The options for reducing SE tax after the year has ended are very limited. Make sure you're taking all allowable business deductions - every legitimate business expense reduces your net profit and therefore your SE tax. Double-check that you're deducting the employer half of SE tax on Schedule 1. You might want to consult with a tax professional to see if there are any deductions you've missed. And while this doesn't help for 2022, definitely consider setting up an S-Corp for 2023 if your business profit justifies the additional compliance costs.

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Zara Ahmed

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While you can't retroactively elect S-Corp status for 2022 at this point, make sure you're doing everything possible to lower your taxable SE income. Don't forget things like: - Health insurance premiums (if you're self-employed) - Home office deduction if you qualify - Business mileage - Retirement contributions (SEP IRA or Solo 401k) - Business cell phone usage - Professional development/education expenses - Professional services (legal, accounting, etc.) I missed a ton of these my first year and paid WAY more than I needed to. Also make sure you're taking the 20% QBI deduction if eligible!

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Freya Larsen

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Thanks for these suggestions! I definitely have health insurance premiums and a home office, but I wasn't sure if the home office deduction would trigger an audit. Have you had any issues with claiming it?

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Zara Ahmed

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I've claimed the home office deduction for 6 years now and never had an issue or audit. The key is to be honest about it - only claim the space used EXCLUSIVELY for business. Measure the square footage accurately and be prepared to document it if asked. The simplified option (currently $5 per square foot up to 300 sq ft) is easier but often results in a smaller deduction. The regular method requires more record-keeping but usually gives you a better deduction since you can deduct portions of utilities, internet, insurance, etc. Either way, if you legitimately have a dedicated home office, you should absolutely claim this deduction!

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Luca Conti

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Has anyone here actually formed an S-Corp after being sole prop? I'm considering it for 2023 after getting hit with massive SE taxes like OP. Is it worth the hassle and extra costs?

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Omar Hassan

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I switched to S-Corp 3 years ago and it's saved me roughly $7,500-9,000 annually in SE taxes. There are definite costs though - I pay about $1,200/year for payroll service and S-Corp tax prep, plus have to maintain better records. The general rule I've found is that S-Corps start making financial sense when your net profit is consistently above $60,000-80,000. Below that, the compliance costs often outweigh the SE tax savings. You also need to be disciplined about paying yourself a "reasonable salary" which is a somewhat gray area that can get you in trouble if you're too aggressive.

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Omar Hassan

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I use Gusto for payroll and it's been great - very user-friendly and they handle all the tax filings and payments automatically. There are cheaper options like SurePayroll or even PayrollCity that might work if you're looking to minimize costs. You have flexibility with payroll frequency. Many S-Corp owners do quarterly or even annual payroll to minimize processing fees, and that's perfectly acceptable to the IRS. Just make sure your total salary for the year meets the "reasonable compensation" standard. I personally do quarterly to keep things simple and to spread out my personal tax withholdings throughout the year.

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Daniel Rogers

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I've been in a similar situation and it's incredibly frustrating! Unfortunately, as others have confirmed, retroactive S-Corp elections for 2022 are essentially impossible at this point. The deadlines are very strict. However, don't give up on reducing your SE tax burden! A few additional strategies to consider: 1. **Quarterly estimated payments for 2025** - Start making them now to avoid underpayment penalties and spread the cash flow impact 2. **Maximize retirement contributions** - If you haven't already, consider a SEP-IRA contribution (up to 25% of net SE income or $66,000 for 2023, whichever is less). This reduces your taxable income. 3. **Payment plan with IRS** - If the tax bill is overwhelming, the IRS offers installment agreements. You'll pay interest, but it can make the burden manageable. 4. **Professional review** - Given the size of your potential tax bill, it might be worth having a CPA or EA review your return one more time before filing to ensure you're not missing any legitimate deductions. For 2023 and beyond, definitely explore S-Corp election if your profits justify it. The SE tax savings can be substantial once you account for the additional compliance costs. Hang in there - this too shall pass!

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Yara Sayegh

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This is really helpful advice, especially the point about quarterly estimated payments for 2025. I'm definitely going to look into the SEP-IRA contribution - I hadn't realized I could still make a contribution for 2022 that would reduce my SE income. The payment plan option is also something I need to seriously consider. Do you know if there are any penalties for setting up an installment agreement, or is it just the interest charges? My cash flow is pretty tight right now so spreading this out would be a huge relief. I'm also curious about the professional review suggestion - at what point does it make sense to pay for a second opinion? My tax situation isn't incredibly complex, but given the size of this SE tax bill, maybe it's worth the investment.

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