Contractor-to-subcontractor payment - do I owe payroll taxes on money I just pass through?
I'm in a weird situation with my contracting business and need some tax advice. I'm working as an independent contractor and recently took a job that paid me $135. The thing is, I ended up hiring a subcontractor to actually complete the work and paid them the entire $135. Now I'm confused about the tax implications. Do I still have to pay the 15.3% self-employment tax on that $135 even though I just passed it through? What about state and local taxes? Or can I classify the subcontractor payment as a business expense, making my net income $0 for this job, meaning only the subcontractor would owe taxes on it? I'm preparing for next year's taxes and want to make sure I understand how to handle these pass-through payments correctly. Any insights would be much appreciated!
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Amara Eze
You don't have to pay self-employment tax on money that you paid to a legitimate subcontractor. The $135 would be included in your gross receipts/income, but then you'd deduct the $135 as a business expense (subcontractor expense). So your net profit on that particular job would be $0, and you wouldn't owe any self-employment tax on it. Just make sure you're handling the paperwork correctly. If you pay any subcontractor $600 or more in a calendar year, you need to issue them a 1099-NEC by January 31 of the following year. You should also have them fill out a W-9 form for your records. Also, even though this particular job resulted in $0 profit, remember that you'll still need to report all your business income and expenses on Schedule C.
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Giovanni Ricci
•What if I don't get the subcontractor's W-9? Can I still deduct the expense if I have proof I paid them like Venmo receipts?
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Amara Eze
•You should always try to get a W-9 from your subcontractors because it provides their tax information that you need for proper reporting. Without a W-9, you're still allowed to take the deduction if you can substantiate that the expense was legitimate and business-related. Venmo receipts can help, but they don't provide all the information the IRS requires. If you can't get a W-9 and you pay the subcontractor $600 or more in a year, you might be required to perform backup withholding at the rate of 24% on future payments to that person. The IRS takes this reporting requirement seriously, and failure to issue required 1099s can result in penalties.
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NeonNomad
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Fatima Al-Hashemi
•Does this taxr.ai thing actually work with independent contractor situations specifically? I'm a general contractor and sometimes hire specialists. Would it help organize all those payments for tax purposes?
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Dylan Mitchell
•I tried something similar last year and it completely messed up my Schedule C. How does this know the difference between a true subcontractor and someone who might legally be considered an employee? That's a huge issue with the IRS.
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NeonNomad
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Dylan Mitchell
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Sofia Martinez
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Dmitry Volkov
•How does this Claimyr thing work? The IRS phone lines are always busy when I call. I've been trying to get an answer about contractor payments for weeks.
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Ava Thompson
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Ava Thompson
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CyberSiren
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that you should be careful about state taxes too. Some states have different rules about contractor/subcontractor relationships and may require additional filings or have different tax treatments. In my state, I had to register as a contractor and get a special license since I was hiring subcontractors, even though I was just passing through the money.
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Miguel Alvarez
•Which state are you in? I'm in Texas and wondering if there are special requirements here for hiring subcontractors.
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CyberSiren
•I'm in California, which is notoriously complicated for contractor relationships. Texas is generally more business-friendly, but you should still check with the Texas Workforce Commission. Some states require registration if you're hiring subcontractors regularly, even if you're not making profit on those specific jobs. Different states also have different thresholds for when you need to report subcontractor payments. The federal threshold is $600 for issuing a 1099-NEC, but some states require reporting at lower amounts or have additional forms.
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Zainab Yusuf
I'm actually a subcontractor for several different contractors and many of them don't really understand how to handle the taxes. From my perspective, I receive the full payment and report it all as income on my Schedule C, paying the full self-employment tax. But the contractor definitely shouldn't be paying SE tax on money they paid to me.
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Connor O'Reilly
•So as the subcontractor, you're responsible for the full 15.3% right? The contractor doesn't withhold anything?
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Andre Laurent
•Exactly! As a subcontractor, you're responsible for the full 15.3% self-employment tax on everything you receive. The contractor doesn't withhold anything - they just pay you the full amount and report it on a 1099-NEC if it's $600 or more for the year. This is different from being an employee where the employer would withhold Social Security and Medicare taxes. As an independent contractor, you handle all your own tax obligations, including making quarterly estimated payments if you expect to owe more than $1,000 in taxes.
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Oliver Fischer
Great discussion everyone! I want to add one more important point that hasn't been covered yet - timing of the deduction. Since you paid the subcontractor in the same tax year you received the payment, you can deduct it immediately. But if there's ever a situation where you receive payment in one tax year and pay the subcontractor in the next, you'd need to be careful about when you claim the deduction. Also, keep detailed records beyond just payment receipts. Document the work scope, timeline, and why you needed to subcontract the work. This helps establish the legitimate business purpose if the IRS ever questions the arrangement. I learned this the hard way during an audit - having clear documentation of the business relationship saved me a lot of headaches. One last tip: consider setting up a separate business bank account if you haven't already. It makes tracking these pass-through payments much cleaner and provides better separation between personal and business expenses.
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Manny Lark
•This is really helpful advice about the timing issue! I hadn't thought about what happens if payments cross tax years. Quick question - if I receive a payment in December 2024 but don't pay the subcontractor until January 2025, would I have to report the full amount as taxable income for 2024 and then wait to deduct the subcontractor expense in 2025? That seems like it could create a cash flow problem with owing taxes on money I'm just going to pass through.
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