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Comprehensive LLC Tax Classification Chart for Small Business Owners

I put together a simple chart to help translate all the confusing LLC tax classification options since I was totally lost when setting up my small business. Since LLCs can be taxed as sole proprietorships, partnerships, S-Corps, or C-Corps depending on your situation, I wanted to create something visual that breaks down the differences. The chart compares income reporting requirements, self-employment tax implications, and filing deadlines across all possible LLC tax classifications. It also highlights the key differences in how profits get distributed and what deductions are available under each option. Has anyone else found a good resource that explains the differences between filing as a Schedule C (sole prop) vs. electing S-Corp status for a single-member LLC? I'm particularly confused about the reasonable salary requirements and how that affects self-employment taxes. If there's interest, I'd be happy to share my spreadsheet with the community!

Andre Laurent

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This is really helpful! Speaking from experience, the biggest difference between Schedule C (sole proprietor) filing and S-Corp election for single-member LLCs comes down to self-employment taxes. With Schedule C, 100% of your profits are subject to self-employment tax (15.3%). With an S-Corp election, you pay yourself a "reasonable salary" that's subject to employment taxes, but any additional distributions beyond that salary aren't subject to self-employment tax. The key is that the salary must be reasonable for your industry and role. For example, if your LLC makes $100,000 in profit, as a sole prop you'd pay self-employment tax on the full amount. As an S-Corp, if your reasonable salary is $60,000, you'd pay employment taxes on that portion and could take the remaining $40,000 as distributions without the additional 15.3% tax. The tradeoff is increased complexity - S-Corps require formal payroll, more extensive tax filings, and stricter compliance requirements.

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Thanks for breaking that down! Do you have a rule of thumb for what's considered a "reasonable salary"? I've heard everything from 30% to 70% of profits should be salary. Also, at what income level do you think the extra paperwork for S-corp becomes worth it?

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Andre Laurent

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There's no specific percentage rule that automatically makes a salary "reasonable" - the IRS looks at what comparable professionals in your field and geographic area would earn for similar work. Research salary surveys for your industry and keep documentation supporting your salary decision. The S-Corp election typically starts making financial sense when you're consistently earning enough that the self-employment tax savings exceed the additional costs. For many businesses, that's around $40,000-$60,000 in annual profit, but it varies based on your situation. The extra costs include payroll service fees (around $50-100/month), potentially higher accountant fees ($1,000-2,000 more annually), and the time value of dealing with more paperwork and compliance requirements.

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Mei Wong

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Does it actually give personalized recommendations? Most "tools" I've tried just give generic advice that doesn't account for my specific situation. I've got rental income through my LLC plus some consulting work - would it handle something with multiple income streams?

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How does the system know what's a "reasonable salary" when even CPAs debate this? Does it just spit out general recommendations or actually provide documentation you could use if audited?

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PixelWarrior

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PixelWarrior

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Would you mind sharing what specific columns/categories you included in your LLC chart? I'm trying to create something similar for a presentation to small business owners and want to make sure I'm covering all the important differences between the various LLC tax classifications.

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MidnightRider

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Happy to share! My chart includes: 1. Tax form(s) required for each classification 2. Self-employment/payroll tax implications 3. Deductibility of health insurance premiums 4. Retirement plan options 5. Pass-through taxation vs. entity-level taxation 6. Ownership restrictions 7. Tax year requirements 8. Reasonable compensation requirements (for S-Corps) 9. Fringe benefits availability 10. Loss limitation rules I also added a column for state-specific considerations since some states have additional taxes or requirements for certain LLC classifications.

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Dylan Evans

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Did you include anything about QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction differences? That's a huge factor for choosing between classifications now with the 20% deduction for pass-through entities!

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Sofia Gomez

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Has anyone tried using the IRS's online resources for understanding LLC tax classifications? I've been looking at their website and it seems completely unhelpful compared to user-created charts and tools.

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StormChaser

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The IRS website is practically useless for this! I spent hours digging through their publications and still couldn't figure out if I should elect S-Corp status. Publication 3402 is supposedly about LLCs but barely scratches the surface of what business owners actually need to know. User-created resources like the OP's chart are way more practical.

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Dmitry Petrov

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I've found the IRS Tax Information For Partnerships publication (#541) and Tax Information For Corporations (#542) to be somewhat helpful, but you have to read them together to get the full picture for LLCs. They're not designed for comparing options side-by-side like a chart would be. The problem is they're written for tax professionals, not regular business owners.

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