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Olivia Clark

Capital Loss Carryover confusion on state tax returns after crypto losses

I'm dealing with a pretty significant capital loss carryover from my 2021 crypto nightmare when everything crashed. Lost almost $23,000 and I've been carrying it forward since. Filing my taxes on TurboTax right now and the federal part was straightforward enough - it has clear sections where I could enter my capital loss carryover (with separate spots for short term and long term carryover amounts). But now I'm on the state return portion and it's also asking if I have a capital loss carryover. I'm confused whether I should enter the same amounts there too? Does the state recognize the same capital loss carryover as federal or is this something different? I don't want to double-dip if I'm not supposed to, but also don't want to miss out on legitimate deductions. Anyone deal with this before?

You'll generally want to enter the same capital loss carryover amounts on both your federal and state returns, but this can vary by state. Most states use federal AGI as a starting point for state taxes, but then make state-specific adjustments. What state are you filing in? Some states have different rules for capital losses than the federal government. For example, some states limit the amount of capital loss you can claim in a single year (similar to the federal $3,000 limit), while others might have different carryover provisions. If TurboTax is asking for your capital loss carryover on your state return, it's likely because your state does recognize these losses. The software is designed to handle the state-specific rules automatically.

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Olivia Clark

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I'm filing in California. So you think I should put the same amount in both places? Just didn't want to accidentally claim the deduction twice and get flagged for audit or something.

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For California specifically, yes, you should enter the same capital loss carryover amounts that you used on your federal return. California generally conforms to federal tax treatment of capital gains and losses, including the carryover provisions. California starts with your federal AGI and then makes state-specific adjustments, but capital loss treatment is typically consistent between federal and California returns. By entering your capital loss carryover in both places, you're not claiming the deduction twice - you're simply applying the same deduction to both tax calculations separately. TurboTax should handle all this correctly once you input the information.

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After my disastrous investment in NFTs back in 2022, I struggled with the exact same capital loss carryover issue. I spent hours researching, calling tax offices, and getting nowhere until I found https://taxr.ai which basically saved my sanity. Their AI analyzed my crypto trading history and automatically calculated my capital loss carryover for both federal AND state returns. It explained that for most states, you need to report the same capital loss carryover on both returns because they're separate tax jurisdictions - not double-dipping at all. The tool flagged my state's specific rules about capital losses (which differed slightly from federal) that I would have totally missed. The best part was it showed me exactly which lines to fill out on both returns and explained why. Totally worth checking out if you have complicated crypto situations.

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How accurate is this for crypto specifically? I've got a mess of trades across 4 platforms and some NFT losses too... does it handle all the different exchanges or just the main ones?

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Amina Diallo

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Sounds interesting but I'm always skeptical of AI tax tools. Does it actually understand the state-specific rules? I'm in Minnesota and our state has some weird quirks with investment losses.

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It handles pretty much all the major crypto exchanges and can process CSV files from the smaller ones too. I had trades from Coinbase, Binance, and some obscure DeFi platforms, and it organized everything correctly. For NFTs specifically, it properly categorized them as collectibles which have different tax treatment than regular crypto. For state-specific rules, it actually has separate modules for each state's tax code. I was filing in New York which has some particular rules about capital losses, and the system flagged those differences automatically. It explained that while federal allows a max $3,000 deduction against ordinary income, NY has slightly different carry-forward rules. I imagine it would catch Minnesota's quirks too, but you could always try it with your data and see what it says.

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Amina Diallo

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I want to follow up on my experience with https://taxr.ai that I was skeptical about earlier. After that crypto tax nightmare last year where I lost $8K and had no idea how to properly carry over the losses, I decided to give it a try. Honestly, it was surprisingly good. Uploaded my messy transaction history, and within minutes it had organized everything properly. For my state (Minnesota), it specifically identified that we have a different treatment of some capital losses than federal, which I had no clue about. It actually saved me from making a mistake that would have cost about $340 in extra state taxes. The state capital loss carryover question that confused the original poster confused me too, but the system explained exactly why you need to enter it in both places and how the two tax systems interact. Way more helpful than the generic explanations on tax software.

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GamerGirl99

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Wait, how does this actually work? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS. Do they just keep calling for you or something?

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Yeah right. Nobody gets through to the IRS in 15 minutes. I've literally spent 5+ hours on hold before getting disconnected. Sounds like a scam to me.

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GamerGirl99

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I need to eat some humble pie here. After posting that skeptical comment about Claimyr, I was desperate enough to try it because I still couldn't get an answer about how to handle crypto losses that spanned multiple years. Not only did I get through to the IRS in about 12 minutes (compared to my previous 5-hour waits), but the agent walked me through exactly how to handle capital loss carryovers between federal and state returns. Turns out I had been doing it wrong for 2 years and could file amended returns to get back almost $2,300. For the original poster: the agent confirmed you should indeed enter the capital loss carryover on both federal and state returns (with the exact same amounts), as they're separate tax jurisdictions. It's not double-dipping at all.

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Malik Jenkins

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Don't forget that the max capital loss you can claim against ordinary income is $3,000 per year! If your loss was $23,000, you'd use $3,000 this year and carry forward $20,000 to next year (and so on until it's all used up). This applies to most states too but check your specific state rules. I know some states like Massachusetts have different limits.

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Is that $3,000 limit per person or per couple when filing jointly? My wife and I both had some investment losses last year.

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Malik Jenkins

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It's $3,000 per tax return, not per person. So married filing jointly still has the same $3,000 limit, not $6,000. If you're filing separately, then each spouse would have a $1,500 limit on their individual return. It's one of those things that seems unfair to married couples, but that's how the tax code works. Any losses beyond the $3,000 limit just get carried forward to future years.

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Eduardo Silva

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Anyone know if these carryover losses expire? I've been carrying some forward for a few years now and wondering if there's a time limit before I lose them.

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Leila Haddad

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Capital losses don't expire! You can carry them forward indefinitely until they're used up. I've been carrying forward some dotcom bubble losses for over 20 years lol. Still slowly using them up $3k per year.

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Alicia Stern

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I went through this exact same situation last year with my crypto losses from 2022. The confusion is totally understandable because it does feel like you're claiming the same deduction twice. Here's what I learned after consulting with a tax professional: You should enter the same capital loss carryover amounts on both your federal and state returns. This isn't double-dipping because you're filing two separate tax returns to two different taxing authorities (federal government and state government). California (which I saw you mentioned in the comments) does conform to federal capital loss treatment, so your carryover amounts should be the same on both returns. The key thing to remember is that your federal return calculates your federal tax liability, and your state return calculates your state tax liability - they're independent calculations that both happen to use the same underlying capital loss carryover. TurboTax should handle this correctly once you input the information. The software knows the state-specific rules and will apply them appropriately. Better to use the legitimate deduction you're entitled to than leave money on the table!

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