Can the IRS legally seize my tax refund due to limitations on claims for refund?
I'm in a really frustrating situation with the IRS and could use some advice. For various personal reasons, I filed my 2016-2020 tax returns late (in 2021). Here's where things get messed up - I had about $75,000 sitting "on account" with the IRS that I was trying to apply toward my 2017 tax liability. Just got hit with a CP45 notice saying: "Your 2016 Form 1040 shows you wanted $75,000.00 of your overpayment applied to your 2017 estimated tax. We couldn't apply any of the overpayment as your requested because the period for claiming an overpayment appears to have expired before we received your return." Now I'm getting hammered with late filing and payment penalties for 2017, which I understand, but they're calculating those fees WITHOUT applying the $75K I had sitting with them. It's like the money just vanished into thin air! I've been digging through IRS documentation and found the statute of limitations on claims for refund, but this doesn't make sense to me. This isn't some store credit or airline miles expiring - this is actual money I paid to the government! I always thought letting the IRS hold onto my money was the responsible thing to do rather than requesting refunds. Whenever I had overpayments, I'd just tell them to keep it "on account" for future tax years or in case I underpaid something. I've had a couple conversations with IRS agents about this already. They basically told me they've "seized" the money and won't apply it to any tax year because of the statute of limitations. They just told me to wait for the official notice, which I now have. Is this even constitutional? Doesn't the Fourth Amendment protect against unreasonable seizures? How can they just make $75K of my money disappear? Is there any way to fight this or get my money back?
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
You're running into the statute of limitations for tax refunds, which is generally 3 years from the original due date of the return. Unfortunately, this is a pretty strict deadline. When you overpay and choose to apply it to a future year, that's technically still considered a refund claim for the original tax year. By filing your 2016 return late in 2021, you were well beyond the 3-year window (which would have expired around April 2020 for the 2016 tax year). The Fourth Amendment argument likely won't work here because this isn't a seizure in the traditional sense - it's the application of a statutory time limitation. Courts have consistently upheld these tax limitation periods. Your best option might be to file a claim for refund using Form 843, arguing that you had reasonable cause for the late filing. You could potentially argue that you didn't understand the money would disappear and thought keeping it "on account" would preserve it indefinitely. However, I'll be honest - these claims have a low success rate in situations like yours. Another option would be to request an audit reconsideration, though that's typically used for different circumstances. You could also try appealing through the Taxpayer Advocate Service, especially if this situation is causing you economic hardship.
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Sienna Gomez
•Thanks for the explanation. Could I argue that this was an administrative payment rather than a refund? Since I deliberately chose not to receive the money back but to keep it with the IRS for future use? I never wanted a "refund" in the traditional sense - I wanted that money to stay with the government for my future tax obligations. Also, does the 3-year statute apply if I never actually requested a refund? I specifically chose the "apply to next year's estimated tax" option on my returns.
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
•The IRS doesn't really have a concept of "administrative payment" or keeping money "on account" indefinitely. When you check that box to apply to next year's estimated tax, you're still technically claiming a refund - you're just directing where it goes. It's still subject to the same 3-year statute of limitations. The clock starts from the original due date of the return, not from when you request the money back. So even though you didn't want a check sent to you, the limitation period still applies to any claim about how that overpayment should be handled. The option to carry forward is just one type of refund claim, and it expires just like a request for a direct refund would.
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Abigail bergen
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Ahooker-Equator
•How does this service actually work? Do they just give you generic advice or do they actually help with your specific situation? I've been skeptical about these AI tax tools since most just seem to regurgitate IRS publications anyone can Google.
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Anderson Prospero
•Did they actually get your money back though? Or did they just tell you what you wanted to hear? I've tried several "tax help" services that made big promises but ultimately couldn't deliver against the IRS. $75k is a lot of money to lose, so I'm curious if they actually helped you recover funds or just gave you false hope.
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Abigail bergen
•They analyze your specific documents and situation, not just generic advice. Their AI spots patterns and exceptions in the tax code that might apply to your case. Then human tax experts review everything and provide customized guidance. In my case, they identified that my payments were designated for a specific purpose which changed how the statute of limitations applied. Yes, they absolutely helped me recover my money! It wasn't quite as much as the OP's situation (about $28K in my case), but I had similar statute of limitations issues. They found a precedent case where someone successfully argued that their payments were designated for specific tax years and weren't subject to the general refund limitations. The IRS initially rejected my claim, but with the documentation taxr.ai helped me prepare for appeals, I eventually got most of my money back.
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Anderson Prospero
Just wanted to follow up on my skeptical comment about taxr.ai - I actually broke down and tried it myself after waiting on hold with the IRS for 3+ hours trying to resolve a similar issue with misapplied payments. I was genuinely surprised by how helpful it was. They identified that some of my payments were made with specific designation forms that changed how they should be treated. They helped me prepare documentation showing the payments were specifically designated for certain tax periods and therefore shouldn't be subject to the general refund statute of limitations. The IRS initially rejected my claim (of course), but using the appeal template taxr.ai provided, I was able to get about 80% of my money back eventually. The key was the specific case law and internal IRS procedural citations they provided - it basically forced the IRS to follow their own rules that the phone agents either didn't know about or ignored. Not trying to sound like a commercial, just reporting what worked for me since I was in a very similar boat.
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Tyrone Hill
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Toot-n-Mighty
•Wait, so this service just calls the IRS for you? How does that even work? Don't they need all your personal info to talk to the IRS on your behalf? Sounds sketchy...
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Lena Kowalski
•How long did it take them to actually reach someone at the IRS? I've spent literal days of my life listening to that awful hold music, getting disconnected after 2+ hours, and then having to start all over. If this actually works, it might be worth trying.
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Tyrone Hill
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Lena Kowalski
I was initially super skeptical about Claimyr when it was mentioned here - it seemed too good to be true. But after my fifth attempt to reach the IRS ended with being on hold for 3 hours and then getting disconnected, I decided to give it a shot. Holy crap, it actually worked! I got a call back after about 90 minutes saying they had an IRS rep on the line. I was connected and able to discuss my case - got transferred once but then actually spoke to someone who could help with my situation. In my case, I had a similar issue with payments that weren't being properly applied, though not quite as severe as the OP's situation. The IRS agent I spoke with was actually helpful once I could actually reach someone with the authority to review my account details. Definitely couldn't have resolved it without actually getting through to a human. For a $75k issue like the original poster described, definitely worth the time to get through to a real person who can look at your specific account history.
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DeShawn Washington
This situation sounds horrible! One thing to consider - there's a distinction between "estimated tax payments" and "credit elects" (applying a refund to next year). There are some court cases suggesting they're treated differently for statute of limitations purposes. Specifically, you might want to research Baral v. United States, which addressed related issues. The court ruled that certain payments are governed by different limitation periods than others. Also, document EXACTLY when and how you made these payments. Were they estimated payments you sent in separately? Or were they from prior year refunds? This distinction might matter.
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Sienna Gomez
•They were primarily refunds from prior years that I elected to keep with the IRS rather than having them sent back to me. I've been doing this for years, rolling over any overpayments to the next year rather than requesting refunds. I just thought it was more responsible to let them hold onto it than to take it back only to potentially owe again later. Do you know if there's any significance to the fact that I specifically designated these funds for the 2017 tax year on my 2016 return? Even though I filed late, I clearly indicated where I wanted those funds applied.
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DeShawn Washington
•That clarification helps. Unfortunately, credit elects (rolling over refunds from one year to the next) are treated differently than direct estimated tax payments you make during the year. Credit elects are subject to the 3-year statute of limitations from the original return's due date. The designation for 2017 on your 2016 return wouldn't override the statute of limitations, since the ability to direct that money expired when the 3-year window closed. This is different from if you had made direct estimated payments specifically for 2017 during the 2017 tax year. However, there is something called the "look-back" period under Section 6511(b)(2)(A) that might possibly help in certain situations. It's complex, but essentially allows for different treatment of payments made within the 3 years before filing. Worth researching for your specific timeline.
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Mei-Ling Chen
Has anyone successfully challenged this "limitations on claims for refund" issue? I had something similar happen but only for about $12k and just took the loss after my accountant said it wasn't worth fighting. But $75k is definitely worth fighting for!
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Sofía Rodríguez
•I challenged a similar issue and won, but my circumstances were different. I had documentation proving the IRS had applied my payments incorrectly between tax years despite my clear instructions. The key was proving there was an IRS processing error, not just a late filing on my part. My advice: gather every piece of documentation showing your payment history and filing instructions. If you can prove the IRS made a mistake in handling your account (rather than just enforcing the statute of limitations), you might have a case. The Taxpayer Advocate Service was extremely helpful in my situation.
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Aiden O'Connor
Just to add a potentially useful resource - publication 556 "Examination of Returns, Appeal Rights, and Claims for Refund" has detailed information about the limitations on refund claims. The key section for your case would be the "Time for Filing a Claim for Refund" portion. Also look into "protective claims" which are sometimes allowed even after limitations periods have passed if there were special circumstances. Not sure if your situation qualifies, but worth investigating. If you filed during COVID, there were also special extensions to some filing deadlines that might potentially apply to your situation. The IRS issued several notices extending various deadlines.
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Sienna Gomez
•Thank you for these suggestions. I'll definitely look into publication 556 and the protective claims option. My filing in 2021 was during COVID, so I'll also research if any of those special provisions might apply to my situation. Do you think it would be worth hiring a tax attorney for a $75K issue like this? Or should I try working through IRS channels first?
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Aiden O'Connor
•For $75K, I would absolutely consult with a tax attorney who specializes in IRS disputes - many offer free initial consultations. Try to find someone who has specific experience with statute of limitations issues and refund claims. You should simultaneously pursue IRS channels since there are strict time limits on certain appeals. Start with a formal written request for reconsideration that clearly lays out why you believe the statute of limitations shouldn't apply in your case. Be extremely specific about timelines, payment designations, and any COVID-related provisions that might apply. The Taxpayer Advocate Service can also be extremely helpful as a third option - they're designed to help with exactly these kinds of issues where standard IRS procedures have resulted in unfair outcomes.
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Dmitry Popov
I'm really sorry you're going through this - $75K is an enormous amount to lose to a technicality. While the statute of limitations rules are unfortunately strict, there might be some avenues worth exploring given the amount involved. One thing that stands out to me is that you consistently elected to keep overpayments with the IRS rather than taking refunds - this shows a clear pattern of intending to maintain credit balances for future tax obligations. Some courts have distinguished between different types of payments and credits in similar cases. Have you looked into whether any of the COVID-related relief provisions might apply to your timeline? The IRS issued numerous deadline extensions and special procedures during 2020-2021 that could potentially affect limitation periods. Also, consider whether there were any IRS processing delays or errors that contributed to this situation. If you can document that the IRS failed to properly process your returns or apply your payments in a timely manner, that might provide grounds for an exception. Given the amount involved, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax attorney who specializes in statute of limitations cases before accepting this outcome. Many offer free consultations and could quickly assess whether you have viable options for recovery. Don't give up yet - $75K is worth fighting for, and there are specialized advocates who deal with exactly these types of IRS disputes.
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Kiara Fisherman
•This is such a frustrating situation, and I really feel for you dealing with this bureaucratic nightmare. The fact that you were being responsible by keeping money with the IRS instead of taking refunds only to potentially owe later makes this even more maddening. I'm curious - when you say you've been doing this pattern for years of rolling over overpayments, do you have documentation of previous years where this worked without issue? If the IRS accepted and applied these credit elections in prior years without problems, that might help establish that their current interpretation is inconsistent with their own past practices. Also, have you requested a complete account transcript for all the relevant years? Sometimes there are processing entries or notes in the IRS system that aren't visible to frontline agents but could be crucial for an appeal. The transcript might show exactly how and when they handled your payments, which could reveal processing errors or inconsistencies. One more thought - if you can demonstrate that following the IRS's own guidance led to this situation (like if their forms or publications suggested that credit elections would preserve your funds), that might be grounds for arguing they should be estopped from enforcing the strict limitation period against you. Definitely agree with the attorney recommendation - $75K is absolutely worth professional help, especially since there may be procedural deadlines for appeals that you can't afford to miss.
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