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Andre Laurent

Can someone explain how unrecaptured section 1250 gains relate to section 1231 gains on K-1 forms?

Hey there, I'm an accountant from Australia and I've been handed a U.S. client's paperwork... talk about jumping into the deep end! I'm trying to wrap my head around a K-1 form issued to a U.S. corporation that shows both an unrecaptured section 1250 gain and a net section 1231 gain. My main question is whether the unrecaptured section 1250 gain is already included within the net section 1231 gain amount? I've been searching online but still feeling confused. Let me give a specific example to clarify what I'm asking: Let's say the U.S. partnership owned section 1231/1250 property with an adjusted basis of $130,000, original cost of $190,000, and they sold it for $260,000. Would the partnership report a $130,000 gain in Box 10 and a $60,000 gain in Box 9c, OR would they report $70,000 in Box 10 and $60,000 in Box 9c? Also, if my client receives this K-1 with an allocated unrecaptured section 1250 gain, where exactly would I see this reflected on their tax return? Any help would be greatly appreciated! U.S. tax rules feel like a completely different language sometimes.

The unrecaptured section 1250 gain is actually a subset of the section 1231 gain, not separate from it. Let me break it down in simpler terms: When a partnership sells section 1231 property (like real estate used in business) for more than its adjusted basis, it creates a section 1231 gain. If that property had depreciation deductions taken on it, a portion of that gain might be considered "unrecaptured section 1250 gain" which gets taxed at a maximum rate of 25% instead of the lower capital gains rate. In your example, if the property was sold for $260,000 with an adjusted basis of $130,000, the total section 1231 gain would be $130,000. Of that amount, the $60,000 that represents previously taken depreciation ($190,000 original cost minus $130,000 adjusted basis) would be classified as unrecaptured section 1250 gain. So on the K-1, you'd see $130,000 in Box 10 for total section 1231 gain, with $60,000 of that also reported separately in Box 9c as unrecaptured section 1250 gain. On the tax return, the unrecaptured section 1250 gain flows to Schedule D and the worksheet used to calculate tax on capital gains.

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So just to make sure I understand correctly - the full gain of $130,000 would appear in Box 10, and then $60,000 of that same gain would also be reported in Box 9c? It's not that Box 10 would show $70,000 and Box 9c would show $60,000 (totaling $130,000)? And when completing the corporate tax return, I need to make sure both amounts are properly reported on Schedule D?

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Yes, that's exactly right. The full gain of $130,000 would appear in Box 10, and $60,000 of that same gain would also be separately reported in Box 9c. They're not additive - the Box 9c amount is a "component of" the Box 10 amount, breaking out the portion that's subject to the 25% maximum tax rate. When completing the corporate tax return, you'll report the total section 1231 gain on Form 4797, and then the unrecaptured section 1250 portion flows to Schedule D where it factors into the capital gains tax calculation. It's this separate reporting that ensures the correct tax rate is applied to each portion of the gain.

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Does it work with partnership K-1s too? I've got several from different investments and I'm completely lost on how to handle the various gain categories. Some have entries in almost every box and the instructions might as well be written in ancient Greek.

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To add some clarification to the original question - this reporting confusion happens because section 1231 property is kind of a hybrid asset class. When you sell section 1231 property at a gain, it's generally treated as capital gain which is great for tax purposes. However, the tax code doesn't want to give you that preferential treatment on the portion that represents depreciation you've already deducted, so they "recapture" that at a higher rate (25% max instead of the typical 15/20% capital gains rates). That's why you see both numbers - the total gain goes in Box 10, but they break out the "unrecaptured" portion in Box 9c so you know which part gets taxed at the higher rate.

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Ava Kim

So if I'm selling rental property this year, should I be concerned about this recapture thing? I've been depreciating the building for about 7 years now.

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Absolutely, you should definitely be planning for depreciation recapture if you're selling rental property. After 7 years of depreciation, you'll likely have a significant amount that will be taxed at that 25% rate rather than the lower capital gains rate. For example, if your building's original cost basis was $200,000 (excluding land value) and you've taken $50,000 in depreciation over those 7 years, your adjusted basis would be $150,000. If you sell for $300,000, your total gain is $150,000, but $50,000 of that will be unrecaptured section 1250 gain taxed at up to 25%, while the remaining $100,000 would be taxed at the lower capital gains rate.

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Wow this whole 1231/1250 thing is confusing. I'm just starting to get into real estate investing and didn't realize there were different tax rates for different PARTS of the same gain. Is this only an issue for partnerships and corporations or does this apply to individual investors too?

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This absolutely applies to individual investors too! If you own rental property or any depreciable business property as an individual, these same rules will apply when you sell. The depreciation you've taken will be "recaptured" at a maximum 25% tax rate rather than the lower capital gains rates. That's why tax planning before selling investment property is so important. Many new investors are surprised when they sell their first property and discover a bigger tax bill than expected because of depreciation recapture.

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As someone who's dealt with section 1250 recapture on multiple properties, I'd suggest creating a simple spreadsheet to track your depreciation over the years. It makes calculating the recapture amount much easier when it's time to sell. For your Australian perspective, Andre, think of it this way: the IRS is essentially saying "we gave you a tax break through depreciation deductions, but when you sell at a gain, we want some of that benefit back at a higher tax rate." The unrecaptured section 1250 gain represents exactly that amount of previously claimed depreciation. One thing to watch out for - make sure your client's depreciation records are accurate. I've seen cases where the depreciation claimed on tax returns over the years doesn't match what's being reported as the recapture amount on the K-1, which can create issues with the IRS.

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That's excellent advice about tracking depreciation in a spreadsheet! I've been helping clients with similar issues and you're absolutely right about the record-keeping problems. One thing I've noticed is that many taxpayers don't realize that even if they didn't claim depreciation on their tax returns, the IRS still considers it "allowable" depreciation for recapture purposes. So if someone forgot to take depreciation deductions for a few years, they still might owe recapture tax on the amount they should have claimed. Also, for anyone dealing with multiple properties or complex partnerships, I'd recommend getting professional help early in the process. The interaction between section 1231 gains and losses can get really complicated when you have multiple transactions in the same year - sometimes section 1231 gains can be treated as ordinary income if you've had section 1231 losses in prior years.

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Thanks everyone for the detailed explanations! Coming from the Australian tax system, this whole concept of depreciation recapture at different rates within the same gain is quite foreign to me. Just to make sure I've got this completely straight for my client's situation: if they receive a K-1 showing $130,000 in Box 10 (section 1231 gain) and $60,000 in Box 9c (unrecaptured section 1250 gain), then on their corporate tax return, the full $130,000 gets reported on Form 4797 as section 1231 gain, and then $60,000 of that same amount flows through to Schedule D where it gets the special 25% tax treatment? Also, Faith makes a great point about the "allowable" vs "allowed" depreciation - I'll need to verify that my client's partnership actually took all the depreciation deductions they were entitled to over the years, because apparently it doesn't matter for recapture purposes whether they claimed it or not! This community has been incredibly helpful - U.S. tax law is definitely more complex than what I'm used to, but at least now I understand the mechanics of how these gains work together.

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You've got it exactly right, Luca! Yes, the full $130,000 goes on Form 4797 as section 1231 gain, and then the $60,000 portion flows to Schedule D for the special tax treatment. It's great to see you've wrapped your head around this concept - it really is quite different from most other tax systems. One additional tip for your client: make sure they keep detailed records of the original cost basis, accumulated depreciation, and sale details for future reference. The IRS can ask for supporting documentation for these calculations, especially on larger transactions. Also, since you mentioned this is new territory for you, you might want to double-check whether your client has any other section 1231 transactions this year. If they have section 1231 losses from other property sales, it can affect how the gains are ultimately taxed - section 1231 gains can be recharacterized as ordinary income in certain situations. But for a straightforward sale like the example you gave, your understanding is spot on!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for such a detailed and helpful discussion! I'm also dealing with K-1 forms for the first time and was completely confused about the relationship between section 1231 and 1250 gains. The example Andre provided really helped me understand - I was making the same mistake of thinking the Box 9c and Box 10 amounts should be added together rather than understanding that one is a subset of the other. One quick question for the group: if a partnership has section 1231 property that was never depreciated (like raw land held for business use), would there be any unrecaptured section 1250 gain reported when it's sold? Or does the section 1250 recapture only apply when there's been actual depreciation taken on the property? This thread has been incredibly educational - the U.S. tax system definitely has some unique complexities that aren't immediately obvious to those of us more familiar with other countries' approaches!

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Great question, Romeo! You're absolutely right - section 1250 recapture only applies when there has been actual depreciation taken on the property. Raw land is not depreciable for tax purposes, so when you sell land that was held for business use, there would be no unrecaptured section 1250 gain to report. In that scenario, if the partnership sold the land at a gain, you'd see the full gain amount reported in Box 10 as section 1231 gain, but Box 9c would be blank (or show $0) since there's no depreciation to recapture. The entire gain would qualify for capital gains treatment rather than having any portion taxed at the higher 25% recapture rate. This is actually one of the advantages of investing in raw land from a tax perspective - when you eventually sell, the entire gain gets the preferential capital gains tax treatment (assuming it qualifies as section 1231 property and you don't have section 1231 losses from other transactions that year). Welcome to the community, by the way! These K-1 discussions can get quite complex, but this group is always helpful in breaking down the concepts.

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This has been such an enlightening discussion! As someone new to U.S. tax concepts, I really appreciate how everyone broke down the section 1231/1250 relationship with concrete examples. I'm currently working through my first partnership K-1 and was getting tripped up by the same Box 9c vs Box 10 issue that Andre mentioned. The key insight that the unrecaptured section 1250 gain is a *component* of the section 1231 gain rather than an additional amount has completely clarified things for me. One follow-up question: when preparing the tax return, is there a specific order these forms need to be completed in? I'm wondering if I should start with Form 4797 for the section 1231 gain first, then move to Schedule D, or if there's a particular sequence that works best to ensure all the amounts flow through correctly. Also, for anyone else struggling with these concepts, I found it helpful to think of it like this: imagine the total gain as a pie, where the unrecaptured section 1250 portion is just one slice of that same pie, not a separate pie altogether. That mental image really helped me understand why we don't add the two amounts together. Thanks again to everyone who contributed - this community is incredibly knowledgeable and welcoming to newcomers!

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Great question about the form order, Dyllan! You'll want to complete Form 4797 first since that's where you report the section 1231 gain from Box 10 of the K-1. The results from Form 4797 then flow to Schedule D, where the unrecaptured section 1250 gain from Box 9c gets its special tax treatment. Here's the typical sequence: Form 4797 → Schedule D → Form 1040 (for individuals) or Form 1120 (for corporations). This ensures all the gain amounts flow through properly and the different tax rates are applied correctly. I love your pie analogy! That's exactly the right way to think about it. Another way I explain it to clients is that it's like having a $100 bill where $25 of it is marked with a special stamp - it's still part of the same $100, but that $25 portion gets treated differently. The unrecaptured section 1250 gain is just the "specially marked" portion of your total section 1231 gain. Welcome to the community! These partnership K-1s can definitely be overwhelming at first, but once you understand the basic concepts, they become much more manageable.

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