Can husband and wife with multi-member LLC in community property state file as QJV? Getting different info...
So I've been researching tax options for our situation and I'm hitting a wall with conflicting info. My husband and I formed a multi-member LLC last year in Arizona (community property state). Now I'm trying to figure out if we can file as a Qualified Joint Venture (QJV) for our taxes. The IRS website seems pretty clear saying if you've formed an entity like an LLC, you can't use the QJV option. But then I've seen a few tax forums where people are saying there are exceptions specifically for community property states. Something about community property laws changing how the business ownership works? Our business is still pretty small - we made about $65,000 last year selling handcrafted furniture. We've been paying ourselves as partners, but our accountant moved away and now I'm confused about our best option. If we could file as a QJV it would simplify things a lot but I don't want to mess up our taxes. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation - multi-member LLC in a community property state using QJV filing status? Any insight would be super helpful!
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Paolo Ricci
You're hitting on a common point of confusion. Let me clarify this for you. In general, the IRS rule is correct - if you've formed an LLC, you typically can't file as a Qualified Joint Venture (QJV). The QJV election was designed for couples who operate an unincorporated business together. However, there is nuance for community property states like Arizona. In a community property state, married couples who own an LLC can choose to be treated as a "disregarded entity" for federal tax purposes if the LLC is wholly owned by the spouses. But this isn't technically using the QJV provision - it's a different tax treatment. With a disregarded entity in a community property state, you would typically file Schedule C (for each spouse's share) with your joint return rather than filing a partnership return. Each spouse would report their share of income/expenses and pay self-employment taxes on their portion. I recommend consulting with a tax professional familiar with your state's specific rules, as there are some tricky reporting requirements that vary by state.
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Amina Toure
•Wait I'm confused. So in a community property state like California, can a husband and wife with an LLC still file a Schedule C instead of partnership return? And if so, do we need to formally elect something with the IRS first or just file that way?
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Paolo Ricci
•For a community property state like California, yes, spouses who are the only members of an LLC can potentially treat it as a disregarded entity and file Schedule C forms instead of a partnership return. You don't necessarily need to make a formal election with the IRS beforehand. However, you should be consistent in your treatment. If you've previously filed as a partnership, changing to a disregarded entity treatment might be viewed as a technical termination of the partnership, which has its own tax implications.
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Oliver Zimmermann
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CosmicCommander
•How does this taxr thing actually work? Does it just tell you the answer or does it help with the actual filing process? My husband and I have an LLC in Washington state and have been filing partnership returns but it's a pain.
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Natasha Volkova
•I'm skeptical that an online tool can properly analyze something this complicated. Did you confirm this with an actual tax professional? Community property laws vary by state and there are federal tax overlays. Seems risky to rely on software for this particular issue.
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Oliver Zimmermann
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Natasha Volkova
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Javier Torres
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Emma Davis
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Malik Johnson
•I'm really doubtful this service actually works. I've tried everything to reach the IRS about a similar issue with my Idaho LLC. Even my accountant can't get clear answers. How can a third party service possibly get you through when the IRS lines are always jammed?
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Javier Torres
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Malik Johnson
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Isabella Ferreira
I'm a tax preparer in Washington state and deal with this specific situation often. The confusion comes from two different IRS provisions that sound similar but work differently: 1. QJV election: For UNINCORPORATED businesses only (not LLCs) where spouses can elect to file as a joint venture instead of a partnership. 2. Community property state exception: Spouses in community property states with LLCs can treat their entity as disregarded (each filing Schedule C) under Rev. Proc. 2002-69. If you've formed an LLC, you're looking at option #2, not QJV. The end result (filing Schedule Cs) might seem similar but the legal basis is different. One warning though - if you've been filing as a partnership and switch to disregarded entity treatment, that's technically a liquidation of the partnership which could have tax consequences. Get professional advice for that transition.
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Keisha Williams
•Thanks for this clear explanation! We haven't filed taxes for the LLC yet since we just formed it last year. So if I understand correctly, since we're in Arizona (community property state), we can treat our husband-wife LLC as a disregarded entity and each file a Schedule C, but this isn't technically using the QJV provision? Does this option have a specific name or form we need to reference when filing?
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Isabella Ferreira
•You're welcome! Yes, that's exactly right. Since you're in Arizona and haven't filed yet, you can start off treating your LLC as a disregarded entity without any transition issues. This treatment doesn't have a special name or require a specific election form. You simply file your Schedule C forms with your joint tax return. However, I recommend including a statement with your return explaining that you're treating the LLC as a disregarded entity under Rev. Proc. 2002-69 to make it clear to the IRS what you're doing. This isn't technically required but helps prevent confusion.
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Ravi Sharma
Has anyone done this in California specifically? My wife and I have an LLC but have been filing partnership returns. Our accountant never mentioned we had this option and we've been paying extra for the partnership returns every year.
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NebulaNomad
•Yes, I've done exactly this in California. Changed from filing Form 1065 (partnership) to Schedule C after learning about the community property state exception. Saved us about $400 in preparation fees plus simplified our quarterly estimated tax payments. You should know that switching from partnership to disregarded entity treatment is technically a partnership "liquidation" on paper though. We had to file a final partnership return the year we switched. I'd recommend getting professional help for the transition year.
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